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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
Between you yahoos, the politicos, and the
media in a couple of years we'll see the old blood bath of children come back. The data will show more deaths, more neglect, more abuse, because NON of you will face the truth of substance abuse and parental failure and viciousness. Fern! He's admitting that the tide is turning! What he overlooks is that the "bloodbath" he is describing is just part of his rabid pipedream delusion and the harm done BY CPS far outweighs what little good they stumble onto with their abject incompetence. Around here, deaths in foster/adoptive care outnumber deaths at the hands of blood parents and live-in boyfriends. Non Fatal abuse is epidemic in foster adopter homes. His bitter complaining about our success is a plea to have Sympathy for the Devil. When Kane talks bloodbath, you have to remember that he IS Commander McBragg, and likes to exaggerate where it suits him. He describes low level legal spanking as BEATING, so you know his "bloodbath" is a delusion. Recently when stats revealed a drop in crime here, Police did something laudible when they did not claim they had caused it, and instead cited the natural ebb and flow of such things. They similarly don't want to be blamed when the natural variations go the OTHER way. It was refreshing to see. I suspect Kane would have to exaggerate a few deaths into a "bloodbath" to justify more funds and would take credit for the other side of the natural wave, asking for more funds. |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
"Greg Hanson" wrote in message om... Between you yahoos, the politicos, and the media in a couple of years we'll see the old blood bath of children come back. The data will show more deaths, more neglect, more abuse, because NON of you will face the truth of substance abuse and parental failure and viciousness. Fern! He's admitting that the tide is turning! Schmuck! He says it's gonna get worse! |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message .net...
"Greg Hanson" wrote in message om... Between you yahoos, the politicos, and the media in a couple of years we'll see the old blood bath of children come back. The data will show more deaths, more neglect, more abuse, because NON of you will face the truth of substance abuse and parental failure and viciousness. Fern! He's admitting that the tide is turning! Schmuck! He says it's gonna get worse! Well, history is in my corner. What ever is in the Whore's and The Plant's is probably well composted by now and ready to put on the garden. Neither seem able to run down any actual facts to support their contentions. And I'm completely Stumped that with all the time they have to become familiar with google and other search facilities they wouldn't bother to do even a minimal search before they babble. But it could be, just could be, that they know they are lying and that there's no need to research for a lie because the support won't be there...not that can't be easily refuted by me. Kane |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
On 17 Feb 2004 01:50:51 -0800, (Greg Hanson)
wrote: No, I think I'll write something first, before the lies and balogna come rollin' down the river. I'll offer some actual resources, data, clarifications of the role of CPS, in other words the truth: http://nccanch.acf.hhs.gov/ You might want to get with the program and actually read something. According to The Plant I NEVER offer any data and It offers tons of it. Oddly all we see from It and you are opinion pieces more often calculated to increase circulation by sensationalizing. Here, on the website above, is the opening page to the resources I've quoted and cited so many times and the more intelligent of you have tried to lie.........BUT ARE NOT AMONG THE MISSING IN THIS NG....the truth beat their butts, as it always does. Before you get too carried away with claims about the perpetrators of child fatalities and abuse you might want to have a quick peek at: http://tinyurl.com/2ft2s This quote seems rather telling about your bogus nonsense: "No matter how the fatal abuse occurs, one fact of great concern is that the perpetrators are, by definition, individuals responsible for the care and supervision of their victims. In 2001, one or both parents were involved in 83 percent of child abuse or neglect fatalities. (The other 17 percent of fatalities were the result of maltreatment by nonparent caretakers.) In almost one-third (32 percent) of fatalities, the mother alone was found to be responsible. These percentages are consistent with findings from previous years." Poor Plant and Whore, seems they forgot that part of what I do, and have since 1956 through 1960 in the military, and in business since, and since 1976 about child welfare from county to state to national level. Yah never really want to bring up claims you haven't researched when you address me, you bozos. But then if you did you couldn't plant your heads firmly so far up your cloaca's and ignore the truth for your bogus claims. Oh, and by the way, in that 17% of caretakes above? That percentage also includes relative caregivers...kinship care....of about 30% of the 17%....so tell me again about all those non-related foster parents that are killing child compared to the bio production units and relatives that are? And 32% of the total killed by their own mothers? Dear me, I think you just drove a bit deeper into the dark territories and are lost. Between you yahoos, the politicos, and the media in a couple of years we'll see the old blood bath of children come back. The data will show more deaths, more neglect, more abuse, because NON of you will face the truth of substance abuse and parental failure and viciousness. Fern! He's admitting that the tide is turning! It's an "admission" when I point out the facts? Like YOU or The Plant have the least grasp of what is going on? Or would tell the truth if you had the facts? R R R R R R What he overlooks I overlook nothing. I've researched for years and been the bane of CPS in those instances where they truly screw up. I also note when it is NOT in their purview and do NOT blame them in that case, as both you yahoos do. is that the "bloodbath" he is describing I reflect the researched FACTS as they are known. Something you dweebs seem all to unfamiliar with. is just part of his rabid pipedream delusion and the harm done BY CPS far outweighs vapid false propaganda put out mostly by the losers that beat, neglected, and killed their children and are not banned together in denial and friendly loserhood. what little good they stumble onto with their abject incompetence. No, I'm not "overlooking" a thing. You are just lying. And there is no solution in what you and your little venomous leeches propose. Around here, Around where, you block, your neighborhood, your city, your county, your state? Where? deaths in foster/adoptive care outnumber deaths at the hands of blood parents and live-in boyfriends. Well, I should hope that's true, as there are many more blood parents than foster/adoptive parents, and as for boyfriends, it would be interesting to see the actual rates....(which I know and will supply on request). I appreciate the long hours of research and the mountains of data you have produced to support your claims. I guess my newsreader, or usenet lost some more posts....seems I can't find your cited proof. Would you mind resending....after all, all that work lost...what a shame that would be. Non Fatal abuse is epidemic in foster adopter homes. I don't see any stats to back that up. I do see nationally, from commonly used sources on national abuse reporting, that you are full of Argentian Folliclarity. . His bitter complaining The only bitter complaining I do here about you is that you attempt to lead needful parents that come to this ng for help into your snares of misdirected rage...and away from the need to direct their energy at what they CAN do to get their children back. I notice also my bitterness at The Plant and friends being willing to sacrifice these families....INTO LOSING THEIR CHILDREN...for The Cause. What I am even MORE bitter about is YOUR willingness to have them join you as a loser to ease your own guilt or diguise it by you all sitting around and chanting "Gee, Ain't it Awful" when you are lying. You would sacrifice the children of these families just so YOU can appear right. I am bitter you are sick enough to do what you did and what you do. about our success You would brag about your "success?" I invite anyone reading to google on your name in your addy for browser accessed archives of your "success" and that of the little girl and her mother. is a plea to have Sympathy for the Devil. R R R R R... What "success" would that be...the right of parents to kill and maim their children that you support? When Kane talks bloodbath, you have to remember that he IS Commander McBragg, and likes to exaggerate where it suits him. When Kane talks bloodbath you have to remember he's been studying this issue for 30 years and more. He's seen the streams of drunks, druggies, insane, and all around vicious parents doing things to their children beyond belief. The recent article about the mother in Texas directing the on camera action with vivid descriptions of the raping molestation of her own daugther by the child's step father was tame compared to the things I've found in child abuse cases. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4045899/ I recall that The Plant posted that the rate of substanciated sexual abuse of children was down. When I protested the methodology a little buddy of It came to the rescue...that buddy has been missing for months now. I proceeded to produce more information that discredited the claim of reduction in sexual abuse of children...as very likely bogus count based on factors other than actual numbers of molestation, and suddenly dead silence around here....NO comeback, nothing...but The Plant from time to time would once again claim there is no need for CPS because sex abuse was declining....(for one thing, ignoring that the population is growing rapidly so all population based incident ratios likely go down for a time until reporting catches up to the census) and here's the info I offered in refutation: http://www.ncjrs.org/html/ojjdp/jjbu...1_1/page5.html Am I, and others in this ng, going to be treated to more silence on issues of substance, and more lies? Of course we are....it's an historical truism with you KCPS yahoo whining slobs. He describes low level legal spanking as BEATING, Yes, suspending children to beat with objects, making young women stripe to be beaten in church, as The Plant defends as a Liberty Interest of parents, certainly isn't beating...no sirree, just a little low level spanking. By they way, can YOU define where "low level legal spanking" crosses over into abusive injurious "BEATING," before one has reached the beating stage...not after the fact? Show us the line. So much for "legal." so you know his "bloodbath" is a delusion. From a google search on [child fatalities abuse] http://tinyurl.com/2b33p Heres' a list of organizations and folks that seem, like me, to think there might be just a wee problem: http://www.seanet.com/~duff/ire/kidsourc.htm I tend to think of children being killed and maimed as something of a bloodbath. I also think of the parents that come here that you yahoos lead astray as something of a bloodbath. You don't seem to think so though, do you? Recently when stats revealed a drop in crime here, Police did something laudible when they did not claim they had caused it, and instead cited the natural ebb and flow of such things. Stats you aren't providing. And the natural ebb invariably is followed the natural flow, have you ever noticed? So did the police department cut back? Were they reduced in budget? That would have been smart, eh? They similarly don't want to be blamed when the natural variations go the OTHER way. It was refreshing to see. It would be refreshing to see you apply that to your bogus claims about CPS then. You forgot that, didn't you, little couch growth? I suspect Kane would have to exaggerate a few deaths into a "bloodbath" to justify more funds and would take credit for the other side of the natural wave, asking for more funds. Well, I do confess, I do not minimze by the use of terms like "a few deaths" and I do understand data and statistics and correlations. And I do understand chronological scope when looking at policy setting. YOU little twits always confine yourself to a blinders on snapshot of a few events over a short period of time. I look at decades and trends, and I'm here to tell you that when that ebb comes it is followed by a flow, time after time over decades. Hence it makes sense to not count on cutbacks as cures, or the level of funding during a downturn (the case for the past 10 years) being sufficient for what is obviously coming. But talking "sense" to the senseless is rather naive of me, don't you think? However sigh, I'm endlessly optimistic and I HAVE actually seen fools such as you and The Plant wake up and smell the coffee instead of each others hindquarters. Kane |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:39:25 GMT, "Dan Sullivan"
wrote: "Greg Hanson" wrote in message . com... Between you yahoos, the politicos, and the media in a couple of years we'll see the old blood bath of children come back. The data will show more deaths, more neglect, more abuse, because NON of you will face the truth of substance abuse and parental failure and viciousness. Fern! He's admitting that the tide is turning! Schmuck! He says it's gonna get worse! Gee Dan, hate to argue with you in public like we do in private from time to time, but you miss the point here completely. What does a whining looser want more than anything in life (besides access to little girls to shower)? Why they want tons of misery for company. Of course La Puta thinks the tide is turning in the favor of the blood dancers. I'd like to make them wrong. I'd like to see more honesty about the funding issues, and the actual data on child abuse, and the issues of substance abuse, caseloads, time and money for worker training, and a huge whack taken at politicians who use this issue of maimed and dead children as a political tool for reelection. (Actually a small minority..most politicos actually know what's going on but are drowned out by the KILL CPS crowd). Maybe I'm overdue at the statehouse. Kane |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
In alt.parenting.spanking Greg Hanson wrote:
[snip] : He describes low level legal spanking as BEATING, : so you know his "bloodbath" is a delusion. Odham's Dictionary of the English Language defines "spanking" as "a beating witha flat object." Chris |
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On 18 Feb 2004, Chris wrote: In alt.parenting.spanking Greg Hanson wrote: [snip] : He describes low level legal spanking as BEATING, : so you know his "bloodbath" is a delusion. Odham's Dictionary of the English Language defines "spanking" as "a beating witha flat object." So this newsgroup is alt.parenting.beating-with-a-flat-object. :-) Doan |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:52:06 -0800, Doan wrote:
On 18 Feb 2004, Chris wrote: In alt.parenting.spanking Greg Hanson wrote: [snip] : He describes low level legal spanking as BEATING, : so you know his "bloodbath" is a delusion. Odham's Dictionary of the English Language defines "spanking" as "a beating witha flat object." So this newsgroup is alt.parenting.beating-with-a-flat-object. :-) Among other things, that being the legal and "reasonable" definition of spanking. And that has been defended by spankers in this ng, even the use of a leather strap until blood was drawn from the victim repeatedly. So yes, this is alt.parenting.spanking-paddling-switching-swatting-caning-whalloping-slapping-lickin'-and from the thesaurus: "belt, blip, box, buffet, cane, chastise, clobber, clout, cuff, flax, flog, hide, larrup, lash, lather, leather, lick, paddle, punch, punish, smack, sock, tan, thrash, trim, wallop, welt, whale, whip, whup" And from various clustered dictionary sources where what we commonly call paddling and you described in your humorous (thanks for taking spanking seriously...children everywhere will love you) at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=spank All of which, given that thesauri and dictionaries are "reasonable" and "standard" resources for aquiring a definition, are "spanking" in the sense it it used for this ng...and in the ways YOU have used it, as in "CP" in your defensive arguments of and for compulsive spanking of children. Frankly I think adding the words "hitting" and "assault" to the end of the URL would be quite appropriate as in some places it IS assault to hit a child for any reason...including the disingenuous label of "discipline." The name of the group is not intended to narrow the scope of argument but to explore and debate the entirety of assaulting and trying to justify assaulting children. Your attempts to narrow the debate to something you think you can successfully argue are duly noted and routinely smashed on your little pointy head. R R R R R Any questions? Doan Kane |
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Kane used "odiferous vulva" and his mother wasn't queried about it .. was ... Kane used "smelly-****" and his mother approved!
On 18 Feb 2004 00:21:08 GMT, Chris wrote:
In alt.parenting.spanking Greg Hanson wrote: [snip] : He describes low level legal spanking as BEATING, : so you know his "bloodbath" is a delusion. Odham's Dictionary of the English Language defines "spanking" as "a beating witha flat object." As does: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. And Roget's has a much more extensive list. All standard useage. Many things equate with spanking that our little Droany would like to avoid if at all possible. And he should avoid the use of the word CP and the comparisons of the RIGHT of cops to hit people, that they do NOT have. It's an abomination that adults cannot be legally hit as punishment or just in anger or even accidently without repercussions even if there is NO physical injury, but children can. Chris Kane |
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