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(Dan Sullivan) wrote in message . com...
(Kane) wrote in message . com... On 03 Aug 2003 04:15:08 GMT, (Super ****ed Dad) wrote: Child Care by Ultimatum: Norcross, Ga., police arrested parents Khalidan Tunkara, 28, and Olin Washington, 32, after one of whom, following a squabble in a parking lot, left their 9-month-old girl on the ground and drove away, intending to pressure the other parent to take the kid, but that parent then drove off, too (April). The same thing happened with parents Jennifer Jones, 21, and the father of her 3-week-old girl, in front of a beauty salon in Elgin, Ill., where police found the baby in the street (February). The same thing happened with parents Christy Leann Radacy, 23, and the father of her 2-year-old twin daughters in Lake Worth, Tex., where police found the girls lying on busy state road 199 (May). News of the Weird 8-02-03 Just think a few classes and these parents will be as good as new Do you really think that is what CPS should recommend to the court after they pick up these children and place them in a shelter? Hey Kane, LaMar is being facetious. You think I missed that? Come on. It was an invitation to rant. I accepted. In spite of his own experiences with CPS he still can recognize people who have gone WAAAAAY "round the bend" regarding the care and supervision of their children. Absolutely. I have a lot of respect for him. Notice I didn't swear at him? He's one of those folks I take great pleasure in disagreeing respectfuly with here. Did thee forget that when I'm posting one person I'm not posting to another? This isn't the plant. LaMar gets one thing, The Plant gets another. Remember sarcasm? (look who I'm asking!) Am I slipping. Was my satire button not depressed sufficiently? Go get yerself a big glass of iced tea... AND FREAKIN RELAX!!!!! Suckin' on one right this second. Thanks. You couldn't believe how relaxing it is for me to come here and play with the freakoids. As for LaMar, like I said, he's a respected opponent. There are a few others. Then there's.......r r r r r Ain't it hot where you are? Not in the least. A lovely 75 degree day. I mixed and poured a 20 square foot by 10 inch concrete slab this morning, just to get myself in the mood to come and read and post. BP is getting so low these days, it's scary. Been of the meds for a month. I think it was my schedule and having to work into the nights so often, what with the long drive and all. As soon as I cut out the late evenings down when the BP. I'll probably live to be 110 and continue to annoy the hell out of CPS and the self styled reformers for many more years. When they stop their kneecappin' and actually contribute to reform I'll stop using the tactics THEY use. That simple. But they won't figure it out even when I write it out for them, as I just did. They are so lost in lust for their silliness it's doubtful any of them could wake up to really effective reforms. Best, Dan I know. Same to yah and more, Kane |
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"Kane" wrote in message om... On 03 Aug 2003 14:45:20 GMT, (Roz McAllister) wrote: Listen Kane, you don't know me. I've read most of the posts you've sent to USENET. And you are right, I don't know you, but what I do know and what you stand for make me very curi0us. I'm new to this list. I was invited to join it by people I have been aquainted with for years. I'm not sure of the relevance, but that's nice. I've been advocating for 7 years. I did my first advocacy in 1976, have barely stopped for breath since. Oh, and we won. And I'm very used to winning. I have NOT declared myself as an expert in ANYTHING. You haven't? You have a lot of opinons that sound very authoritative. Most sound pretty much like a crackpot, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.... You are not "an expert in ANYTHING" I made some observations on a case that is local to me. That's it! And I get attacked by you. Lets try a bit of a reality check, shall we? When I google'd the email address here is what I came up with: "(919) 261-9783. Roz McAllister. Ohio State Director. . 5222 McBride Ave. Cleveland, OH 44127. (216) 883-7275. AOL IM: ram7275a" Going a bit further into a search, I found some of the following: "Remember, CPS IS the enemy!" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Parents-VS-CPS/message/31 "I am hoping to have a large number of cases of abuse of power by the system to hand over when I speak." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Parents-VS-CPS/message/6 If you dont consider yourself an expert, why are you speaking? An interesting outcome to a search on just an email address. There is another entry for that address, but it does not seem to have anything to do with CPS. If you are interested please do what I did and google it. Oh, and BTW, it seems that the cpswatch site is now a "500 - Internal server error" site. I just love competent server administration, don't you? Ron P.S. Hey Roz, as far as I am concerned that puts you right in the same nut house with dennis. Sharing a suite no doubt. Roz McAllister CPSWatch, Ohio Kane CPSWatch watcher, USA |
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"Kane" wrote in message om... (Dan Sullivan) wrote in message . com... (Kane) wrote in message . com... On 03 Aug 2003 04:15:08 GMT, (Super ****ed Dad) wrote: Child Care by Ultimatum: Norcross, Ga., police arrested parents Khalidan Tunkara, 28, and Olin Washington, 32, after one of whom, following a squabble in a parking lot, left their 9-month-old girl on the ground and drove away, intending to pressure the other parent to take the kid, but that parent then drove off, too (April). The same thing happened with parents Jennifer Jones, 21, and the father of her 3-week-old girl, in front of a beauty salon in Elgin, Ill., where police found the baby in the street (February). The same thing happened with parents Christy Leann Radacy, 23, and the father of her 2-year-old twin daughters in Lake Worth, Tex., where police found the girls lying on busy state road 199 (May). News of the Weird 8-02-03 Just think a few classes and these parents will be as good as new Do you really think that is what CPS should recommend to the court after they pick up these children and place them in a shelter? Hey Kane, LaMar is being facetious. You think I missed that? Come on. It was an invitation to rant. I accepted. OK... ya fooled me. In spite of his own experiences with CPS he still can recognize people who have gone WAAAAAY "round the bend" regarding the care and supervision of their children. Absolutely. I have a lot of respect for him. Notice I didn't swear at him? He's one of those folks I take great pleasure in disagreeing respectfuly with here. Did thee forget that when I'm posting one person I'm not posting to another? This isn't the plant. LaMar gets one thing, The Plant gets another. Remember sarcasm? (look who I'm asking!) Am I slipping. Was my satire button not depressed sufficiently? I thought you had a roll of quarters duct taped to it. Go get yerself a big glass of iced tea... AND FREAKIN RELAX!!!!! Suckin' on one right this second. Thanks. You couldn't believe how relaxing it is for me to come here and play with the freakoids. As for LaMar, like I said, he's a respected opponent. There are a few others. Then there's.......r r r r r Ain't it hot where you are? Not in the least. A lovely 75 degree day. I mixed and poured a 20 square foot by 10 inch concrete slab this morning, just to get myself in the mood to come and read and post. Who's under the slab? neal? BP is getting so low these days, it's scary. Been of the meds for a month. I think it was my schedule and having to work into the nights so often, what with the long drive and all. As soon as I cut out the late evenings down when the BP. I'll probably live to be 110 and continue to annoy the hell out of CPS and the self styled reformers for many more years. When they stop their kneecappin' and actually contribute to reform I'll stop using the tactics THEY use. That simple. But they won't figure it out even when I write it out for them, as I just did. They are so lost in lust for their silliness it's doubtful any of them could wake up to really effective reforms. Best, Dan I know. Same to yah and more, Thanks, Dan |
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Roz:
The Pro-CPS game players in this newsgroup: Ron is a foster contractor who claims to be a former cop. He seems to think all parents accused of child abuse are guilty. He once posted from a work computer connected to a company called FirstData out of Nebraska, doing contract telephone operator services, I suspect. His job history is too varied and involves some pretty menial jobs for him to be much of a professional. In his Computer Role Playing world, he posted a name of Ron Van Dyne, of the Northland Highlanders, referred to himself as a Nazi in training, and saying something like come here young one.. His photo(if real)is not impressive. Dan pretends to be a reformer, but that is very questionable. He seems to work more for the "status quo" even though he seems to know that it is badly screwed up. (Notice how he got all excited about MAKING IT WORK?) But when I asked him if NY has CRB or Grievance process over services he answered that I should do my own research. He supposedly lives on Long Island in New York. There is no confirmation that Dan Sullivan is his real name. Dan has always asked a LOT of private questions of people new to this newsgroup, and e-mails asking for details. He even called up Cheryl at CPSWATCH wanting to get a phone number for Dennis, she expressed concern that New York is not anywhere near Illinois! I think Dan's a crocodile trying hard to look like a log. Kane first appeared apparently at Dan's request, supposedly was on some administrative board over CPS somewhere, but swears like a long shoreman. Claims some connection to Hawaii. I suspect Kane is a role playing gamer also. There are two or three others who appear to be CPS stooges or "sock puppets". As is common in newsgroups, it can be pretty hostile and sometimes spills over into harassment. The people using their real names and real information are just pawns in the game players game, like kids to CPS agencies. |
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"Greg Hanson" wrote in message m... Roz: The Pro-CPS game players in this newsgroup: Ron is a foster contractor who claims to be a former cop. He seems to think all parents accused of child abuse are guilty. He once posted from a work computer connected to a company called FirstData out of Nebraska, doing contract telephone operator services, I suspect. What a stunning revelation.... NOT! His job history is too varied and involves some pretty menial jobs for him to be much of a professional. In his Computer Role Playing world, he posted a name of Ron Van Dyne, of the Northland Highlanders, referred to himself as a Nazi in training, and saying something like come here young one.. His photo(if real)is not impressive. And Dennis Deakin posted a picture of his own colon. What should we make of that? BTW did Ron actually post that Nazi thing? Was it a joke? Or did one of the NG loons post it to make him look bad? Dan pretends to be a reformer, but that is very questionable. Why is that? He seems to work more for the "status quo" even though he seems to know that it is badly screwed up. How do I work for the "status quo?" I helped get eleven kids out of foster care in the last year and a half. And I've helped get dozens of defective "founded" CPS decisions reversed. Tell me one accomplishment of your's Greg besides getting stoned on marijuana at Dennis Deakin's? (Notice how he got all excited about MAKING IT WORK?) But when I asked him if NY has CRB or Grievance process over services he answered that I should do my own research. You can do your own research, Greg Sittin on yer butt 24/7. You haven't had a job in YEARS! He supposedly lives on Long Island in New York. That I do. There is no confirmation that Dan Sullivan is his real name. It's on my NY drivers license. Dan has always asked a LOT of private questions of people new to this newsgroup, and e-mails asking for details. How can I help someone if I don't know the details? He even called up Cheryl at CPSWATCH wanting to get a phone number for Dennis, she expressed concern that New York is not anywhere near Illinois! I never called CPSWatch. I emailed CPSWatch because free was signing his posts with "familyfree, CPSWatch Illinois State Director. I simply wanted to know if CPSWatch had a Director in Illinois and what his REAL name was. Dennis refused to tell me. He told me to "find out!" In fact he even called me a liar when I posted his REAL name as the Director in Illinois!!!!!! ------------------------ From: ) Subject: CPSWatch Illinois State Director? Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services Date: 2003-03-20 16:38:37 PST "Dan Sullivan" writhen: CPSWatch has a State Director in Illinois named Dennis Deakin. Would that be you, Dennis? snip What's this junk? A ruse? There isn't anywhere on any of CPSWATCH'S great family sanctity sites that there is a: "Dennis" Deakin listed as any State Director. You have no proof of this "Dennis". If you do post it. Or be the liar that you are...delusional dan. Free. ------------------------------------------- From: ) Subject: CPSWatch Illinois State Director? Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services Date: 2003-03-20 19:57:21 PST "Dan Sullivan" writhen: I'M claiming I have verifiable proof. Like I said, it's a ruse, You can't prove there there is a "Dennis" Deakin listed as a state director. Post your proof or be the liar that you are. free. --------------------------------------------- This is the post that started the discussion off, --------------------------------------------- From: Dan Sullivan ) Subject: CPSWatch Illinois State Director? Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services Date: 2003-03-20 20:54:22 PST wrote in message ... "Dan Sullivan" writhen: CPSWatch has a State Director in Illinois named Dennis Deakin. Would that be you, Dennis? snip What's this junk? A ruse? Either that Dennis Deakin is you or it's not. A yes or no answer would have been sufficient. There isn't anywhere on any of CPSWATCH'S great family sanctity sites that there is a: "Dennis" Deakin listed as any State Director. I noticed that too, Dennis. I went to their website to check because you were signing your posts with, "FamilyFree Illinois State Director CPSWATCH,INC. http://www.cpswatch.com" I found it odd that the State Director of an organization as serious as CPSWatch should choose to use an alias rather than his real name. It gave the appearance of impropriety... as if you wanted to take credit for being the Director but still keep who you really were a secret. So after I saw no one listed on the CPSWatch website I posted, "Has a State Director been chosen for Illinois?" You responded with, "Join and find out." So I emailed CPSWatch for the answer. Then I posted, "CPSWatch has a State Director in Illinois named Dennis Deakin. Would that be you, Dennis?" And in response to that you changed your signature to, " "DEAKIN" Illinois State Director CPSWATCH,INC. http://www.cpswatch.com" Which was the first time you ever posted your last name. And you STILL ask me if my statement is, "A ruse?" You have no proof of this "Dennis". If you do post it. If that Dennis Deakin is not you why don't you just say so? But why then is your signature, "Deakin... Illinois State Director CPSWatch?" Or be the liar that you are...delusional dan. I got the name Dennis Deakin from Cheryl Barnes, National Director CPS Watch. Free. -- "DEAKIN" Illinois State Director CPSWATCH,INC. http://www.cpswatch.com If you're going to conduct CPSWatch's business in Illinois the same way you conduct yourself on this NG... they better start looking for someone else. Dan Sullivan -------------------------------------- I think Dan's a crocodile trying hard to look like a log. Here's what Doug Quirmbach, Public Relations Director of CPSWatch, wrote about me to Chuck (Loyal Fan) the father of a little girl I helped get out of FC in PA, --------------------------------------- From: Doug ) Subject: Dean Tong on radio Sunday evening Abuse-excuse Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services Date: 2003-05-19 12:27:45 PST snip It is my understanding that you are rightfully grateful for Dan's expert help in developing and following through with the approach you successfully implemented. Dan's is an approach that begins by assuming a posture that CPS mistakenly reads as submissive and then using the agency's own procedures against them. He is like a bulldog. He never lets go. He begins with the very accurate assumption that the caseworker goofed up and goes into the closet to find the administrative policy or directives that define the malpractice. He is brilliant with the tools of this approach. -------------------------------------- If that makes me a crocodile, I'm glad to be one. Kane first appeared apparently at Dan's request, That's not true. supposedly was on some administrative board over CPS somewhere, but swears like a long shoreman. Claims some connection to Hawaii. I suspect Kane is a role playing gamer also. I believe Kane has been around a lot longer than me. I never heard of him until I got here. There are two or three others who appear to be CPS stooges or "sock puppets". As is common in newsgroups, it can be pretty hostile and sometimes spills over into harassment. The people using their real names and real information are just pawns in the game players game, like kids to CPS agencies. Shall I post "Greg's Motion" again so Roz can see how adept you are at fighting CPS????? Dan |
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