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"V" wrote in message ...
I know alot of empowering young women and girlpower and I have read many periodicals and books on the subject. Now, I am searching for empowering young men and boypower. The search is very skim. I have read, Bad Boys and Raising Boys, but there is just not as much out there on this subject as far as programs to help boys, besides YMCA. I know there is boy scouts and girl scouts, etc, but they are something that is not close by in our area. I am going to be getting some ideas together to begin a program within the school system that empowers our young men. I have been reading a lot of stuff to present to some rape crisis volunteers on the history of rape. This is what got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act. Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor? What do you guys think? I will be going to school (senior highs) and speaking to young women about rape prevention, but just what can I tell the boys? Sorry about the long rant. Thanks. It is important to keep in mind thar guys/boys often will exert themselves in extreme ways for the sake of being able to maintain their own self respect. But if they are told straight-out in advance that they are all regarded as potential rapists; scum until proven otherwise, and that young women are saints until proven otherwise, you will have blown it. Very few young men are rapists in waiting. If you address the bulk of them as if they are you will have lost all influence with them. V The teacher will appear when the pupil is ready. |
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"Ralph DuBose" wrote in message om... "V" wrote in message ... I know alot of empowering young women and girlpower and I have read many periodicals and books on the subject. Now, I am searching for empowering young men and boypower. The search is very skim. I have read, Bad Boys and Raising Boys, but there is just not as much out there on this subject as far as programs to help boys, besides YMCA. I know there is boy scouts and girl scouts, etc, but they are something that is not close by in our area. I am going to be getting some ideas together to begin a program within the school system that empowers our young men. I have been reading a lot of stuff to present to some rape crisis volunteers on the history of rape. This is what got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act. Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor? What do you guys think? I will be going to school (senior highs) and speaking to young women about rape prevention, but just what can I tell the boys? Sorry about the long rant. Thanks. It is important to keep in mind thar guys/boys often will exert themselves in extreme ways for the sake of being able to maintain their own self respect. But if they are told straight-out in advance that they are all regarded as potential rapists; scum until proven otherwise, and that young women are saints until proven otherwise, you will have blown it. Very few young men are rapists in waiting. If you address the bulk of them as if they are you will have lost all influence with them. V The teacher will appear when the pupil is ready. Good point Ralph. Most men are not. I will keep this point in mind. Thanks. V |
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"sg34" wrote in message ... "Bebe lestrnge" wrote in message ... Empowering boys Group: alt.support.single-parents Date: Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 1:31am (EST+5) From: (V) V wrote; I know alot of empowering young women and girlpower and I have read many periodicals and books on the subject. Now, I am searching for empowering young men and boypower. The search is very skim. I have read, Bad Boys and Raising Boys, but there is just not as much out there on this subject as far as programs to help boys, besides YMCA. I know there is boy scouts and girl scouts, etc, but they are something that is not close by in our area. B wrote: Maybe a "Big Brothers " Program ? V wrote; I am going to be getting some ideas together to begin a program within the school system that empowers our young men. B wrote; Great Idea! V wrote: I have been reading a lot of stuff to present to some rape crisis volunteers on the history of rape. This is what got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act. Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor? What do you guys think? B wrote: This makes me think of how horrible a childs life must be to be raised with such a disposition? I know a lot of the act of rape is about the "power and control" and not the actual sexual gratification. I have heard and read that these men/boys grow up with a hatred of women or a particular woman (Mother) . I do see how poor parenting could create this behavior, but sometimes a sick mind is just a sick mind and there was no reason for it , no one to blame........... V wrote: I will be going to school (senior highs) and speaking to young women about rape prevention, but just what can I tell the boys? Sorry about the long rant. Thanks. B wrote: To seek out professional help if they think it is o.k. to violate and cause such pain suffering and harm to another human being? That "NO" means "NO" and forcing beyond that point is wrong, a violent act, that is not O.K. ever. I am thinking good moral values are indeed taught at home, unfortunately many young men and women grow up without the needed guidance. Many fall through the cracks . Maybe telling the boys exactly what being raped feels like to a woman , how it destroys both body and mind and the struggle involved with healing from such a despicable act. (touchy subject) Bev V The teacher will appear when the pupil is ready. Rape, unfortunately can happen to boys too. Also you have to look at the controversy in the Catholic Church and think about all the young boys that were molested. The church finally admitted it, acknowledged it. Hopefully it won't be pushed under the rug anymore. My relative was molested by his uncle when he was a little boy, and he had repressed this memory until he was in his 60'd. I can't imagine holding it in for so long. Best of luck in empowering boys! It'll help them become better fathers, uncles, cousins and sons. Young boys can also be raped by women, and unfortunately, when those criminals become pregnant and give birth, the courts have deemed it just to rape those same victims by assessing child support too. sg |
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This is what got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act. Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor? What do you guys think? And the 'great' thing is, women socialise their SONS who end up raping in the process. |
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"sg34" wrote in message ...
Rape, unfortunately can happen to boys too. Yes indeed. What's rape today? Drunk people having sex or people having sex and regret it later? It happens to man too. Except that no woman is send to jail for such a ridiculous crime |
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"V" wrote in message ... "Bebe lestrnge" wrote in message ... Empowering boys Group: alt.support.single-parents Date: Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 1:31am (EST+5) From: (V) V wrote; snip maybe telling the boys exactly what being raped feels like to a woman , how it destroys both body and mind and the struggle involved with healing from such a despicable act. (touchy subject) Bev Unfortuantely 1 out of 6 boys will know what it feels like to be raped. It is a touchy subject. thanks for your input. btw, how is the baby? V I have a feeling that the 1 out of 6 is a phony statistic...... |
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Last time I looked, it wasn't just 'men' sitting on the bench.
And before you bring up the strawman 'men make up most of the legislature' arguement........women are the voting majority. 'Kate wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:24:29 -0500, "Paul Fritz" Young boys can also be raped by women, and unfortunately, when those criminals become pregnant and give birth, the courts have deemed it just to rape those same victims by assessing child support too. Too bad other men, the ones in charge of courts, don't see that as punishable by law, huh? 'Kate |
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'Kate wrote in message ... On 1 Mar 2004 04:19:49 -0800, (The Mighty Quenelle) "sg34" wrote in message ... Rape, unfortunately can happen to boys too. Yes indeed. What's rape today? Drunk people having sex or people having sex and regret it later? It happens to man too. Except that no woman is send to jail for such a ridiculous crime Saying that all rapes are the result of just a little too much partying and a bad decision is a head in the sand attitude. It makes it easy to not think until it happens to someone you love. So wher did he say 'ALL'..............I think the radical feminists have done more harm by broadening the definition of rape to include morning after regrets and crunkne behavior. It takes away the seriousness of those that have actually been raped. 'Kate |
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I have a feeling that the 1 out of 6 is a phony statistic......
Right. People's personal experiences are not relevent to discussions, but your "feelings" are. Joelle The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St Augustine Joelle |
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Personal experiences doesn't alter statistical relevance, (as much as you'd
like it to) but it is very easy to generate a phony statistic by repeating a lie long enough, or misconstruing data. I saw some stats that showed somewhere between 3 and 5 % of men had been sexually assualted AND that 1 in 6 had occurred prior to the age of 16........it is easy to see how that might have become what the OP posted, hence my 'feeling' If you have information differently, please post it. Next time you might want to think a little more before trying to flame. "Joelle" wrote in message ... I have a feeling that the 1 out of 6 is a phony statistic...... Right. People's personal experiences are not relevent to discussions, but your "feelings" are. Joelle The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St Augustine Joelle |
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