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SUICIDES 'LINKED TO PHONE MASTS'
SUICIDES 'LINKED TO PHONE MASTS'
Sunday June 22,2008 Lucy Johnston THE spate of deaths among young people in Britain's suicide capital could be linked to radio waves from dozens of mobile phone transmitter masts near the victims' homes. http://www.express.co.uk/printer/view/49330/ Dr Roger Coghill, who sits on a Government advisory committee on mobile radiation, has discovered that all 22 youngsters who have killed themselves in Bridgend, South Wales, over the past 18 months lived far closer than average to a mast. He has examined worldwide studies linking proximity of masts to depression. Dr Coghill's work is likely to trigger alarm and lead to closer scrutiny of the safety of masts, which are frequently sited on public buildings such as schools and hospitals. It is also likely to fuel more campaigns against placing masts close to public places on health grounds. Dr Coghill said last night there was strong circumstantial evidence that the masts may have triggered depression in those from Bridgend who took their lives. They include Kelly Stephenson, 20, who hanged herself from a shower rail in February this year while on holiday in Folkestone, Kent. Dr Coghill said: "There is a body of research that has over the years pointed to the fact that exposure to mobile radiation can lead to depression. There is evidence of higher suicide rates where people live near any electrical equipment that gives off radio or electrical waves." There are now 70 million mobile phone handsets in the UK and around 50,000 masts. Both emit radio signals and electromagnetic fields that can penetrate the brain, and for many years campaigners have argued that this could seriously damage people's health. The national average for proximity to a mobile phone transmitter varies depending on the type of mast. The latest masts are far more powerful so they can transmit more sophisticated data, such as photos and videos for people to download on internet phones. Masts are placed on average 800 metres away from each home across the country. In Bridgend the victims lived on average only 356 metres away. The national average distance from a new powerful mast is a kilometre while in Bridgend it is 540 metres. Three transmitters were within 200 metres, 13 within 400 metres and as many as 22 within 500 metres of victims' homes. Carwyn Jones, 28, who hanged himself last week, was the third young person in his street to commit suicide. Research shows young people's brains are more susceptible to radio wave energy. Only two weeks ago a report identified mobiles as having an effect on sleep patterns. Dr Coghill added: "What seems to be happening is that the electrical energy is having an effect on the chemistry of the brain, depleting serotonin levels. We know that in depression serotonin levels are low and that a standard treatment for depression is to give drugs to boost serotonin levels. As they begin to work, the patient's depression lifts." He said urgent research was needed because Britain was now covered with thousands of masts, many close to homes, schools and offices. Since January 5, 2007, there have been 22 deaths of young people in the Bridgend area. Some believe the suicides are linked but so far experts have failed to find a common cause. Thomas Davies, 20, hanged himself in February 2007. Last night his brother Nathan, 19, welcomed Dr Coghill's research. "As far as this family is concerned nothing can bring Tom back," he said. "But if there is a link found and something can be done then it could prevent further suicides." But Mike Dolan, executive director of the Mobile Operators Association, dismissed Dr Coghill's research. "This is an insensitive and outrageous piece of speculation which has no basis in established science," he said. The Government's Health Protection Agency insisted that fields from mobile masts - even modern powerful masts - were well within international agreed safety limits. "There is no evidence that masts do you harm. The levels of radio waves are very low." |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:07:45 +0100, "JOHN" wrote:
Dr Roger Coghill, "Dr"? He claims an MA in Greek Classics and a bachelors in Biological Sciences as well as an MA in "environmental management" but no sign of a doctorate on his own CV and he isn't someone who usually hides from publicity. I don't suppose for one minute that the fact that dear old cogloose sells a plethora of ineffective "anti-radiation" devices at inflated prices ever has any influence on his "research"? He endorses the "Phone Dome" "a tiny anti-radiation safety accessory made up of micro crystals that neutralise and change the negative effects of all mobile/cell phones reducing harmful radiation by over 99% without any adverse effects on the phone's functionality. Acting as an energy cell the Phone Dome creates a positive energy cell alteration within the radiation fields emitted from the mobile/cell phones. The Phone Dome weighs less than a paperclip and simply sticks onto the back of a phone...Testing with Kinesology and through the SE5 Plus (radionic equipment) have both given this product the thumbs up" He has also apparently written that AIDS is caused by mobile phones, or more precisely neonatal exposure to RF, rather than a virus. I'm not sure if that accords with your current theory of the week on that subject or not. who sits on a Government advisory committee on mobile radiation, He does? Which one would that be? Coghill Research Laboratories, along with about 40 other organisations including the Council of Mortgage Lenders, Scotland Before Pylons and Trentham Environmental Action Group, is a participant in "Sage" (Stakeholder Advisory Group ELF EMF) a "conflict resolution" group run by R K Partnership Ltd and concerned with power lines, not phones. "This stakeholder group is not a formally constituted body nor are the participants formally appointed by government." Are there others he attends? He does however run a DVD rental service, and sell the Gainex Magnetic Fuel Economiser. He also owns http://www.galonja.co.uk/wpo.htm which arguably has the worlds most inept web design company front page. He also apparently lectured on the electromagnetic aspects of Feng Shui where "Protective devices to mitigate exposure will be introduced". It is reported that he did tell the truth at least once "OK, so I don’t know a lot of physics. Nor biochemistry, nor microbiology, anatomy, physiology, radio engineering, physical chemistry, epidemiology, statistics, ..." Dr Coghill said last night there was strong circumstantial evidence that the masts may have triggered depression in those from Bridgend who took their lives. Even by the usual dire standards of snake-oil peddlers this example of making money from suicide is particularly distasteful. I presume he would wish to sell the survivors a Fostac Chip " “We offer the explanation that multi cellular organisms have their own endogenous field and we speculate that the Fostac device is energized by cell phone radiations to emit masking or compensating radiations which benefit the endogenous field rather than perturbing it, by some means which we do not understand.- Roger Coghill" Or a dose of "Asphalia For Natural Protection" pills" [powdered grass] "Two months supply of our radio-protective supplement to counteract the adverse effects of EMF exposure from cellphones, transmitters, WiFi, electric appliances and Powerlines"? or perhaps his "Photon Duvet " with "infrared ray photoelectron emission fibres." Or his "electrosmog detector" to allow the poor souls to hear the "aggressive pulsing of signals from base stations" as they put a noose around their necks? Could he have helped them with a personal Harmoniser (a bit of bent metal tube with water inside)? "“The Mobile Phone Personal Harmoniser has a significantly protective effect against exposure to electromagnetic fields and radiations from mobile phones” Biologist Roger Coghill," "The results showed that the protected cells enjoyed much higher post exposure viability compared with cells which do not have the benefit of the Harmoniser. Furthermore it did not seem to matter that the water in the Harmoniser had been imploded more than a year prior to the study..." (from Coghill's report). Masts are placed on average 800 metres away from each home across the country. In Bridgend the victims lived on average only 356 metres away. The national average figure quoted includes both urban and rural areas so is meaningless. In parts of Chester masts are only on average 300m away, so why is the suicide rate there lower than average? Might the fact that in Bridgend youth unemployment is much higher than average, alcohol consumption is much higher and the weather is much worse than average (damp and dismal) have more to do with the suicide rate than mobile phone masts? He said urgent research was needed because Britain was now covered with thousands of masts, many close to homes, schools and offices. WoooWoo - go buy a Coghill £40 Microshield to "Reduce radiation from your mobile phone by up to 99%." or an EMF protector net that blocks electro-magnetic radiation for only £11.75 a metre. |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:04:41 +0100, "JOHN" wrote:
http://whale.to/a/electromagnetic_a.html From that page:- "Every standing tower in the world, pretty much, can be seen by energy sensitives and psychics to give off very dense, destructive dead Orgone radiation" "they found out that the little towers, by the tens of thousands, they could literally aim any energy like a gun to a single home, a given range area, and so forth." "If this is true then there is covert agenda going on" "all radio and TV towers were drafted into the HAARP network in recent years, so they're death transmitters" I bow to your far superior expertise and experience when it comes to drivel. |
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"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:04:41 +0100, "JOHN" wrote: http://whale.to/a/electromagnetic_a.html From that page:- "Every standing tower in the world, pretty much, can be seen by energy sensitives and psychics to give off very dense, destructive dead Orgone radiation" "they found out that the little towers, by the tens of thousands, they could literally aim any energy like a gun to a single home, a given range area, and so forth." "If this is true then there is covert agenda going on" "all radio and TV towers were drafted into the HAARP network in recent years, so they're death transmitters" I bow to your far superior expertise and experience when it comes to drivel. http://whale.to/b/appeal_to_incredulity.html |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:00:21 +0100, "JOHN" wrote:
http://whale.to/b/appeal_to_incredulity.html Incredulity is always a good idea when faced with incredible claims, especially unsubstantiated incredible claims. For example you have apparently kindly helped the remaining citizens of Bridgend by traveling down there and scattering 15 Holy Hand Grenades (Quartz, aluminium powder and glue); 70 Tower Busters ( a paper cup filled with a half/half mix of resin and metal particles into which is inserted a single quartz crystal) ; 6 Earth Pipes (These apparently work by pulling the Deadly Orgone energy from the underground and then releasing Putre Orgone, which is good for living beings, above ground and below). Oh, and also two toilet rolls whose function wasn't altogether clear.. It isn't wholly unreasonable for an outside observer to think that rather than achieving anything you are merely barking mad. Your usual answer to any comment tends to support this assumption as it often appears to be the Internet equivalent of the biblical quotations used by demented religionists :- Q: "Why do you want to kill people?" A:"Matthew14:44" Q: "What qualifications does this snake oil peddler have?" A: "www.dolphinoil.com/unbelievers/ This really doesn't help the presentation of your case or do anything to convince people what you are saying has any foundation in fact. On the available evidence it isn't unreasonable to conclude that the combination of a known seller of snake oil and someone who believes that a 555 timer and a few extra components worth a dollar or so will make a device which cures every disease are several sandwiches short of a picnic rather than unsung benefactors of mankind. |
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"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:00:21 +0100, "JOHN" wrote: http://whale.to/b/appeal_to_incredulity.html Incredulity is always a good idea when faced with incredible claims, especially unsubstantiated incredible claims. For example you have apparently kindly helped the remaining citizens of Bridgend by traveling down there and scattering 15 Holy Hand Grenades (Quartz, aluminium powder and glue); 70 Tower Busters ( a paper cup filled with a half/half mix of resin and metal particles into which is inserted a single quartz crystal) ; 6 Earth Pipes (These apparently work by pulling the Deadly Orgone energy from the underground and then releasing Putre Orgone, which is good for living beings, above ground and below). Oh, and also two toilet rolls whose function wasn't altogether clear.. It isn't wholly unreasonable for an outside observer to think that rather than achieving anything you are merely barking mad. Your usual answer to any comment tends to support this assumption as it often appears to be the Internet equivalent of the biblical quotations used by demented religionists :- Q: "Why do you want to kill people?" A:"Matthew14:44" Q: "What qualifications does this snake oil peddler have?" A: "www.dolphinoil.com/unbelievers/ This really doesn't help the presentation of your case or do anything to convince people what you are saying has any foundation in fact. On the available evidence it isn't unreasonable to conclude that the combination of a known seller of snake oil and someone who believes that a 555 timer and a few extra components worth a dollar or so will make a device which cures every disease are several sandwiches short of a picnic rather than unsung benefactors of mankind. ad hominem variant. Do try harder. |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:36:21 +0100, "JOHN" wrote:
On the available evidence it isn't unreasonable to conclude that the combination of a known seller of snake oil and someone who believes that a 555 timer and a few extra components worth a dollar or so will make a device which cures every disease are several sandwiches short of a picnic rather than unsung benefactors of mankind. ad hominem variant. Hardly. I think I am right in saying it is a matter of record that you have stated you believe a simple device made from a few pence worth of components and commonly called a zapper is capable of curing most if not all diseases. Being quite objective that stated belief alone calls into question your ability to understand either science or technology or the way in which proof of efficacy can be presented and proven. It is arguable that such a lack of basic understanding plus your expressed belief in alien visitors, in mind control weapons in every radio and phone mast and non-existent secret underground military facilities casts doubt upon your connection with reality. Similarly to describe non-Dr Coghill as a purveyor and supporter of snake oil remedies is objectively correct. He sells or promotes the quack devices I mentioned earlier. If he makes unsubstantiated and patently inaccurate statements the only obvious benefit of which are to his own pocket surely it is right to question them? |
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"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:36:21 +0100, "JOHN" wrote: On the available evidence it isn't unreasonable to conclude that the combination of a known seller of snake oil and someone who believes that a 555 timer and a few extra components worth a dollar or so will make a device which cures every disease are several sandwiches short of a picnic rather than unsung benefactors of mankind. ad hominem variant. Hardly. I think I am right in saying it is a matter of record that you have stated you believe a simple device made from a few pence worth of components and commonly called a zapper is capable of curing most if not all diseases. Being quite objective that stated belief alone calls into question your ability to understand either science or technology or the way in which proof of efficacy can be presented and proven. It is arguable that such a lack of basic understanding plus your expressed belief in alien visitors, in mind control weapons in every radio and phone mast and non-existent secret underground military facilities casts doubt upon your connection with reality. Similarly to describe non-Dr Coghill as a purveyor and supporter of snake oil remedies is objectively correct. He sells or promotes the quack devices I mentioned earlier. If he makes unsubstantiated and patently inaccurate statements the only obvious benefit of which are to his own pocket surely it is right to question them? Yes, I know, its called ad hominem. Look it up |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:18:00 +0100, "JOHN" wrote:
Similarly to describe non-Dr Coghill as a purveyor and supporter of snake oil remedies is objectively correct. He sells or promotes the quack devices I mentioned earlier. If he makes unsubstantiated and patently inaccurate statements the only obvious benefit of which are to his own pocket surely it is right to question them? Yes, I know, its called ad hominem. Look it up The article you quoted claimed he was a Dr. He is not. He is neither a Doctor of Medicine nor entitled to the academic form. It claimed he "sits on a Government advisory committee on mobile radiation". He doesn't. It said he had "examined worldwide studies linking proximity of masts to depression". Possibly he has, but there is little evidence he has the qualifications, training or experience to fully understand them. As he said himself - "OK, so I don’t know a lot of physics. Nor biochemistry, nor microbiology, anatomy, physiology, radio engineering, physical chemistry,epidemiology, statistics, ..." It said "Dr Coghill said last night there was strong circumstantial evidence that the masts may have triggered depression in those from Bridgend who took their lives." Neither he nor anyone else has ever produced credible evidence showing anything of the sort. It claimed he said "There is evidence of higher suicide rates where people live near any electrical equipment that gives off radio or electrical waves." Where is the evidence? It claimed "Coghill added: "What seems to be happening is that the electrical energy is having an effect on the chemistry of the brain, depleting serotonin levels. " There is no objective evidence of anything of the sort and no evidence Coghill has the education or facilities to make an informed judgment on the matter. You appear to have accepted this report uncritically. When considering how accurate your judgment is likely to be the fact you believe in the presence of aliens amongst the general population and mass mind control is relevant. Challenging unsupported, ill informed assertions is not argumentum ad hominem. Pointing out that the person who made the statements stands to benefit financially from the publicity by increased their sales of snake oil nostrums is not argumentum ad hominem but fact. I note you have not addressed the substance of the article at all. |
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