I have to vent

"Elana" wrote in message
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Denise wrote:

Its aggrivating to see so many people with such bad advice.

I hate to open this can of worms...but what do they say about bf? I'd
think, being military families and on a pretty tight income, that they
would all be for it, at least from a financial point of view...

E

UGH! You pretty much automatically qualify for WIC if you're military, so
breastfeeding is really rare. On this website, there's myself, and one
other AP-type parent who are pretty outspoken about things like
breastfeeding and co-sleeping. One girl kept posting about how hungry her 3
week old was so she got all sorts of "Oh, honey, its ok if you don't have
enough milk, WIC will help you pay for formula.." The other girl and I
basically go on and on about fenugreek and oatmeal and growth spurts. That
same girl with the hungry baby now has a 4 month old who eats "peaches and
cereal and green beans and just loves peanut butter, but he's so
constipated."

I do appreciate and respect doctors, but I do not expect them to
be
always right, and I am certainly not going to let any other person
take
responsibility for my health.

Exactly. There are too many reports of malpractice, too many doctors
that are interested in their wallets and expencive cars and too many
patients who simply don't get it for me to not do my own research
about my health issues and figure out what's best for my treatment.

Of course, that's what she thinks she's doing by demanding an induction...

--
Caryn
mama to Oscar, 10/20/02

"Circe" wrote in message
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Denise wrote:
The average gestation for a baby is 42 weeks, so going two
weeks over your due date is common and healthy unless a NST shows
otherwise

For the record, average gestation for human infants is 40w3d. A normal
full-term pregnancy ends somewhere between 37 and 42 weeks. So I think you
may catch some flack for inaccuracy in this statement, because 42 weeks
truly *isn't* average gestation--it's the longest that is considered safe
and normal (although there is not much evidence, really, that a 43 or 44
week pregnancy cannot be safe and normal for a particular woman).

Eh.. I was close I don't think anyone will call me on it, because as a
group, they don't seem to be very resourceful. My main point was just to
point out that inductions lead to other stuff and midwives try to avoid the
other stuff, kwim?

FWIW, I think if the poster you responded to wants to be induced, she
should
be. It's her body. As long as she understands the risks of induction and
can
weigh those risks against the benefits (for her),

I agree. But like I said, these women don't seem to be like that. Its more
of a what's easier for me thing, rather than thinking through what an
induction could lead to. One of the members was pregnant a few months ago
and posted that she was sick of being pregnant so the advice was "Go in
there and demand an induction, they have to do it for you if you want it."
Eventually the girl did end up being induced, being in labor for over 24
hours and getting a C-section.

Denise wrote:

UGH! You pretty much automatically qualify for WIC if you're military, so
breastfeeding is really rare. On this website, there's myself, and one
other AP-type parent who are pretty outspoken about things like
breastfeeding and co-sleeping. One girl kept posting about how hungry her 3
week old was so she got all sorts of "Oh, honey, its ok if you don't have
enough milk, WIC will help you pay for formula.." The other girl and I
basically go on and on about fenugreek and oatmeal and growth spurts. That
same girl with the hungry baby now has a 4 month old who eats "peaches and
cereal and green beans and just loves peanut butter, but he's so
constipated."

You totally have my sympathy! I'd go crazy...I'm bad enough on my
street with promoting bf :-).

LOVES peanut butter?!?! Isn't it choking hazard until age 1?!

You do what you're doing, girlfriend. It's *all* good!!

E

"Phoebe & Allyson" wrote in message
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Stephanie and Tim wrote:

Why nasty? This post sounds more informative than unsympathetic to me.

There are some people who see information that contradicts
their previously-formed worldview as a personal attack.

Phoebe


I do not know anyone like that.... wait, except me.

S

Denise wrote in message ...

"Elana" wrote in message
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Denise wrote:

Its aggrivating to see so many people with such bad advice.

I hate to open this can of worms...but what do they say about bf? I'd
think, being military families and on a pretty tight income, that they
would all be for it, at least from a financial point of view...

E

UGH! You pretty much automatically qualify for WIC if you're military, so
breastfeeding is really rare. On this website, there's myself, and one
other AP-type parent who are pretty outspoken about things like
breastfeeding and co-sleeping. One girl kept posting about how hungry her
3
week old was so she got all sorts of "Oh, honey, its ok if you don't have
enough milk, WIC will help you pay for formula.." The other girl and I
basically go on and on about fenugreek and oatmeal and growth spurts. That
same girl with the hungry baby now has a 4 month old who eats "peaches and
cereal and green beans and just loves peanut butter, but he's so
constipated."


OMG, this takes a cake. I can not even imagine giving peanut butter to a 4
month old.

laurie
mommy to Jessica, 27 months
and Christopher, 13 weeks

*This email address is now valid*

Valerie Rake wrote:

I'd say we're _much_ more likely to do this now that in the past......
No Palm Pilots then! ;-)

grin

Though it's true in a more serious way--since we "know" so much more
medically about pregnancy and childbirth, I think we're much more likely
to get hung up on the timing of things than women and caregivers
(midwives or doctors) were able to to even think about even 50 years
ago, to say nothing of before that. I've got no problem acknowledging
that that extra knowledge and saved a lot of women's and children's
lives, but its overly routine application to every pregnancy is
annoying, to say the least.

So right: all the technology is not always a blessing...

Just look at HPT's: now you can test 4 days before your period is due.
Wow! So what use is that besides spending a whole lot of money on tests?
I read the leaflet that comes with this test, and it says that it's just
over 50% accurate at 10 DPO, and still only 86% at 13 DPO (1 day before
period is due). Imagine the profit they will make on women testing again
to rule out a false negative, and then again twice in their next cycle
since they weren't pregnant the first time...

But this is waaaaay OT here anyway...

--
-- Ilse
mom to Olaf (07/15/2002)
TTC #2
"What's the use of brains if you are a girl?"
Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD

"Laurie" wrote in message
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OMG, this takes a cake. I can not even imagine giving peanut butter to a 4
month old.

As the mother of a recently diagnosed peanut allergic son, I'm pretty
horrified too!

JennP.