Parents: Playing Fair With Children?

Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%
Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm

"Three-quarters (76.6%) of child fatalities were caused by one or more
parents. More than one-quarter (28.5%) of fatalities were perpetrated by
the
mother acting alone. Nonparental perpetrators (e.g., other relative, foster
parent, residential facility staff, "other," and legal guardian) were
responsible for 13.0 percent of fatalities."

"Some children who died from maltreatment were already known to CPS
agencies. Children whose families had received family preservation services
in the past 5 years accounted for 11.7 percent of child fatalities.
Nearly 3
percent (2.7%) of the child fatalities had been in foster care and were
reunited with their families in the past 5 years."

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p...four.htm#child

"Nearly 84 percent (83.4%) of victims were abused by a parent acting alone
or with another person. Approximately, forty percent (40.4%) of child
victims were maltreated by their mothers acting alone; another 18.3 percent
were maltreated by their fathers acting alone; and 17.3 percent were abused
by both parents."

"For FFY 2005, 47.3 percent of child victims were boys, and 50.7 percent of
the victims were girls. ***The youngest children had the highest rate of
victimization.***"
(emphasis supplied)

Do parents play fair with their children? Most do, but there are obviously
some who do not. And the smaller the child the moire likely they are to be
abused.

Yeah, thats fair, right fx?

Ron



I have heard words like yours before Ron...


_"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of
the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the
benefit of the children the people will happily endure almost any
curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
Adolph Hitler, 1943, Mein Kampf_

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:49:08 -0700, fx wrote:


Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%
Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm

"Three-quarters (76.6%) of child fatalities were caused by one or more
parents. More than one-quarter (28.5%) of fatalities were perpetrated by
the
mother acting alone. Nonparental perpetrators (e.g., other relative, foster
parent, residential facility staff, "other," and legal guardian) were
responsible for 13.0 percent of fatalities."

"Some children who died from maltreatment were already known to CPS
agencies. Children whose families had received family preservation services
in the past 5 years accounted for 11.7 percent of child fatalities.
Nearly 3
percent (2.7%) of the child fatalities had been in foster care and were
reunited with their families in the past 5 years."

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p...four.htm#child

"Nearly 84 percent (83.4%) of victims were abused by a parent acting alone
or with another person. Approximately, forty percent (40.4%) of child
victims were maltreated by their mothers acting alone; another 18.3 percent
were maltreated by their fathers acting alone; and 17.3 percent were abused
by both parents."

"For FFY 2005, 47.3 percent of child victims were boys, and 50.7 percent of
the victims were girls. ***The youngest children had the highest rate of
victimization.***"
(emphasis supplied)

Do parents play fair with their children? Most do, but there are obviously
some who do not. And the smaller the child the moire likely they are to be
abused.

Yeah, thats fair, right fx?

Ron



I have heard words like yours before Ron...

And his words match these in intent how?

You are hallucinating again, Michael.

Or you think that parents abusing children is the parent's right.

Make up your mind. And watch those dogs.

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_"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of
the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the
benefit of the children the people will happily endure almost any
curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
Adolph Hitler, 1943, Mein Kampf_

Why is there 10% unknown or missing?

Doesn't this make the "Margin of Error" greater
than much of the supposed information?

These are numbers based on what CPS
agencies arbitrarily decide right?
One notch better than fairy tales.

Did each state's Damage Control people
have an influence on these numbers?

Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%
Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:50:13 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

Why is there 10% unknown or missing?

Perp never named. Child abused, but NO person ID'd as perp.


Doesn't this make the "Margin of Error" greater
than much of the supposed information?

It's not an error? Why assume it is?

The number of abused children don't change, just the number in the
unidentified perp column.

I can't get over your never ending brilliance.

And your ability to ask the most assinine questions so you can take a
quick shot at CPS.

These are numbers based on what CPS
agencies arbitrarily decide right?

No, Greg. They come from number produced from case records and prime
sources. No one "vet's" them. They are compiled from raw data.

The perp has been identified.

One notch better than fairy tales.

One notch better than Greg's innuendo, for sure.

Did each state's Damage Control people
have an influence on these numbers?

You think so, don't you? Now prove it.

Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%

Those are LE data.

Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

In fact NON are CPS data alone.

Now many foster you see, by the way? Do you know the actual percentage
is available but fx source keeps hiding it away because it's so
minuscule it's almost un measurable for statistical analysis.

Why I heard of a guy, that sad a women knew a fellah whose great uncle
told him that it's so tiny it's even smaller than Dennis and Greg's
dicks end to end, or is it head to head?

I keep forgetting.

But you can trust me on that, just as surely as you can trust Greg
when he says, "I heard that. ....""A guy said...."

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm

No no no, try:

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p...5/table4_5.htm

That includes the rate of foster parents, the ONLY ones that can
remotely be laid on CPS doorstep.

The idea that CPS is responsible for a death by parent or other that
they have returned to the parent is a crock. Real malpractice numbers
for those would factor OUT one's requiring psychic abilities...but
hey, you guys something to keep your jerkin' woodies warm in your
isolation and confused state.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p...5/table4_5.htm

So here yah go, little bunwarmers:

Table 4-5 Perpetrator Relationships of Fatalities, 2005
Child Maltreatment 2005
Child Fatalities
Perpetrator Number Percent

Female Foster Parent (Nonrelative) 5 0.5
Male Foster Parent (Nonrelative) 1 0.1
Female Foster Parent
Unknown Relationship 1 0.1
Male Foster Parent
Unknown Relationship 0 0.0

Oh ****...those are PERCENTAGES BOYS.

I didn't mean to embarrass you so.

A total of fosters of all kinds of .7%.

Gee, that's about ...let me see now, for the entire country for an
entire year...now what is that number?

Oh yeah, I had such a problem adding it up 7

Damn those murdering foster parents...all thousands and thou...oh,
gosh, all 7.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:50:13 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

Why is there 10% unknown or missing?

Doesn't this make the "Margin of Error" greater
than much of the supposed information?

These are numbers based on what CPS
agencies arbitrarily decide right?
One notch better than fairy tales.

Did each state's Damage Control people
have an influence on these numbers?

Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%
Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm

How'd jah like my little update noting you folks are so honest, but
apparently forget that .7% were fosters?

Don'tcha just hate me for that?

Doesn't it make yah just want to get together with your buddies, and
stalk me?

Make me skeeeeeered for my wife's safety so I'll have to stop
embarrassing you with the facts?

Make yah wanna terrify her an me with the knowledge that some of your
violent buddies might be emboldened by your stalking and come after us
and kill us?

Or are yah just school yard bullies, playin' around too stupid to know
what you are up to, eh?

AF's trying his best to ignore me, but you tell him for me if he
continues his games it all goes to the USC administration, and the
state police in California. You don't threaten me and mine and walk
away...and I don't scare.

He should have dropped the reference in his sock name before he went
anonymous remailer.

Just how stupid he does think investigators or USC is, anyway?

You boys have let DD graduate you into the big time.

With AF's help.

Got another shoe? Drop it.

I'm holding my last one.

Yah ****in' little punk cowards.

We're all watching to see just how brave you are. And how smart.

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Kane wrote
How'd jah like my little update noting
you folks are so honest, but apparently
forget that .7% were fosters?

If you correct for EXPOSURE that's terrible!
And the numbers are reported by people with
a huge conflict of interest.

"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Why is there 10% unknown or missing?

Because they don't know who caused the fatality.

Would you rather they add that 10% to the parents or the nonparental
perpetrators, like yourself.

What an appropriate name!

Greg Hanson is a nonparental perpetrator!!!

Doesn't this make the "Margin of Error" greater
than much of the supposed information?

These are numbers based on what CPS
agencies arbitrarily decide right?
One notch better than fairy tales.

Did each state's Damage Control people
have an influence on these numbers?

Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%
Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:32:15 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

Kane wrote
How'd jah like my little update noting
you folks are so honest, but apparently
forget that .7% were fosters?

If you correct for EXPOSURE

Do that for us.

that's terrible!

Well let's see.

And put the material back or don't bother.

And the numbers are reported by people with
a huge conflict of interest.

Life's little challenges, right?

We should stop having concerns and working on problems because of such
issues, right?

Or we could do it all Greg's way.

Now please share that with us.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:05:45 -0700, Dan Sullivan
wrote:


"Greegor" wrote in message
roups.com...
Why is there 10% unknown or missing?

Because they don't know who caused the fatality.

Would you rather they add that 10% to the parents or the nonparental
perpetrators, like yourself.

What an appropriate name!

Greg Hanson is a nonparental perpetrator!!!

Has a nice ring to it.

His company title on his business card, maybe? When he and krp start
up GregKRaP, Inc.

Doesn't this make the "Margin of Error" greater
than much of the supposed information?

I loved this. Nothing like building one's line of argument on an
inncorrect assumption, eh?

Run with it, Greg. Run with it.

These are numbers based on what CPS
agencies arbitrarily decide right?
One notch better than fairy tales.

Did each state's Damage Control people
have an influence on these numbers?

Perpetrator Relationships of Child Fatalities

Mother: 28.5%
Father: 15.8%
Mother and Father: 20.4%
Mother and Other: 10.3%
Father and Other: 1.6%
Nonparental Perpetrator: 13.0%
Unknown or Missing: 10.4%

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p.../figure4_2.htm