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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
Mark Probert wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:36*am, wrote: On Feb 17, 12:25*pm, Jeff wrote: JOHN wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:ZYItj.2287$N95.609@trnddc03... JOHN wrote: Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar.../2/14/why-vacc... IMHO, Mercola is a scuzbucket. "If you can't answer a man's argument, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names." *--Elbert Hubbard Yet, I did answer's the man's argument. And the page is inaccurate. F or example, it states that vaccines are immune suppressing. That is false. I noticed that you deleted part of my argument without indicating that fact. That is intellectually dishonest. http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm Mercury is hardly an immune booster: "You couldn't even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe. It's just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage." ----Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Kentucky and one of the world's leading authorities on mercury toxicity. http://whale.to/vaccines/thimerosal.htm cheers! Childhood vaccines no longer have thimerasol in them. Jeff Mary Tocco Here, producer of "Are Vaccines Safe? DVD that everyone is discussing! *Sorry Jeff, you are dead wrong. *Prove to me that this is so, *vaccines still have trace amounts and if it is removed...what did they replace it with??? *If you believe what they tell you without questioning, you are very easily lead Some have trace amounts which are insignificant. As for your question regarding replacement, the fact that you ask the question demonstrates that you are uninformed on this entire issue. I'll explain it to you... The purpose of Thimerosal was to prevent cross contamination when using multi-dose vials. Now, the vaccines are all in single dose vials there is no need for such a preservative. Therefore, there was no replacement. Please do get up to speed on this issue. It seems you have been led astray by the anti-vaccination liar sociopaths. She is one, Mark. http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/tocco.htm -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
On Feb 27, 9:40*am, Peter Bowditch wrote:
wrote: On Feb 17, 2:07*pm, Jeff wrote: JOHN wrote: "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message ... In message , JOHN wrote: And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are immune suppressing. That is false. http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm Mercury is hardly an immune booster: Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have any mercury in them? -- "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message ... Mercury is hardly an immune booster: Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have any mercury in them? They did for the last 50 years or so, still do for the third world, and still in flu vaccines, some tetanus etc http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm and there may still eb trace amounts which they don't have to declare And then we have all the other poisons Jeff calls *'immune boosters' like aluminium etc try and get the facts first And yet, you have never demonstrated that vaccines are dangerous. The only reason why the influenza outbreak in San Diego isn't bigger is that most of the population is vaccinated. http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8281325 Vaccines are one of the greatest public health measures ever. Only clean drinking water, sanitation and healthy food have saved more lives than vaccines. Vaccines have eliminated polio from the western hemisphere and eliminated smallpox everywhere. In addition, in the US, measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, diptheria, purtussis, HIB menigits, and other diseases have been greatly reduced. For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry Jeff, wrong again, only 10% of the world got small pox vaccine. You cannot take credit for eradication when only 10% were vaccinated. As conditions improve in sanitation, food supply, clean water ect...infectious diseases began to dissapear including where no vaccines were given. *World Health Statistis Annual 1976 and other references available to prove this. *Also, vaccines were introduced decades after marked decline was noted. * Do you really trust what the WHO and CDC say? *CDC takes credit where credit is not due. * They are motivated, controlled and owned by big pharma money. *www.childhoodshots.com Hello Mary, Still lying and spreading filth, I see. Keep up the good work. http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/tocco.htm Hmmm....researching vaccines for 25 years and cannot figure out what replaced Thimerosal. She did spike my LoonOmeter. |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
On Feb 27, 9:47*am, Peter Bowditch wrote:
Mark Probert wrote: On Feb 27, 1:36*am, wrote: On Feb 17, 12:25*pm, Jeff wrote: JOHN wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:ZYItj.2287$N95.609@trnddc03... JOHN wrote: Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar.../2/14/why-vacc... IMHO, Mercola is a scuzbucket. "If you can't answer a man's argument, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names." *--Elbert Hubbard Yet, I did answer's the man's argument. And the page is inaccurate. F or example, it states that vaccines are immune suppressing. That is false. I noticed that you deleted part of my argument without indicating that fact. That is intellectually dishonest. http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm Mercury is hardly an immune booster: "You couldn't even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe. It's just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage." ----Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Kentucky and one of the world's leading authorities on mercury toxicity. http://whale.to/vaccines/thimerosal.htm cheers! Childhood vaccines no longer have thimerasol in them. Jeff Mary Tocco Here, producer of "Are Vaccines Safe? DVD that everyone is discussing! *Sorry Jeff, you are dead wrong. *Prove to me that this is so, *vaccines still have trace amounts and if it is removed...what did they replace it with??? *If you believe what they tell you without questioning, you are very easily lead Some have trace amounts which are insignificant. As for your question regarding replacement, the fact that you ask the question demonstrates that you are uninformed on this entire issue. I'll explain it to you... The purpose of Thimerosal was to prevent cross contamination when using multi-dose vials. Now, the vaccines are all in single dose vials there is no need for such a preservative. Therefore, there was no replacement. Please do get up to speed on this issue. It seems you have been led astray by the anti-vaccination liar sociopaths. She is one, Mark. http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/tocco.htm -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com- I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. You have removed all doubt. |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
"Jeff" wrote in message news:1_dxj.33877$v57.33038@trnddc05... If this were the case, then there would still be small pox where they poop on ground, there are low food supplies and clean water is not available, which includes way too much of the world. Its a hoax, end of story http://whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html Gee, it seems like that childhood shots.com site is motivated by money. $20 for a DVD? They cost like $1 to make. Gee, your vaccine pals make billions killing and maiming kids every year. I put far more trust in what WHO and the CDC say than you. Jeff You would, being on the same level--psychopathy. |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
"Jeff" wrote in message news:G0exj.33878$v57.4608@trnddc05... AIDS is a disease caused by a virus, called HIV, that attacks people's immune system. Lie http://whale.to/aids.html Actually, they are good vaccines. Vaccines have marketedly reduced deaths from measles in 3rd world countries. Lie http://whale.to/m/exp8.html The live vaccine provides better protection from polio than the killed vaccine. The live vaccine did most of the work of wiping out polio from the western hemisphere. Lie http://whale.to/v/polio2.htm used for genocide http://whale.to/a/genocide_opv.html There is no shame on us here, because giving the live polio vaccine to the 3rd world saved thousands of lives. Lie, see above Putz http://whale.to/m/putz.html |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
"Jeff" wrote in message news:TGeuj.404$kI4.114@trnddc05... Nice name calling. In the future, it would be appreciated if you would discuss the issue at hand rather than make personal, kindergarten-type attacks. Have a lovely day. Jeff Try setting an example if you want anyone to follow it After all, the whaleto pages are clearly written by some twit who doesn't understand medicine or science and who is too ashamed to put her name on the pages. Can't blame her. (jan 6/2007) Correct. There is no evidence that John ever had any intelligence. ;-) Yazbak is an ass. Smith was a clueless twit. Apparently, he was a good actor though. "Too bad you can't see what a jerk you are." "Warning: The whale.to site is maintained bys someone who knows almost nothign about medicine and peditarics or vaccines and science. The author is too ashamed to put hi name on the page. I don't blame him."---Putz John wears an Aluminum foil beanie which prevents him from getting a clue. While I agree that he is unable to get a clue, it is not the aluminum foil beanie. It is what is underneath it.--Jeff |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
"Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? "Jeff" wrote in message news:L3suj.606$kI4.541@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message newsSeuj.405$kI4.30@trnddc05... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:e87uj.5873$N95.1483@trnddc03... Bee wrote: On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote: For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov. Jeff Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the solution," want to go to a government website? gr Because it is an accurate site. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...ces_autism.htm The problem with this conjecture is that the form of mercury that was in childhood vaccines does not cause autism. If it did, the incidence of autism would be going down since the compound was removed from vaccines. It isn't. Jeff The problem is, *The Centers for Disease Control published a study last fall repudiating any possible link between thimerosal and developmental problems like autism in children. However, First Coast News has obtained non-published documents that show the CDC DID have data supporting such a link-- but kept it from the public.* Therefore, anyone who believes the (CDC..AND the government) is accurate is being fooled. Jan A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James Were are the data that First Coast News obtained published? try and delete unecessary text, old chap |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
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try and delete unecessary text, old chap Dang -- for once Scudamore and I are in perfect agreement. -- | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions ----------+ |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
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"Jeff" wrote in message news:1_dxj.33877$v57.33038@trnddc05... If this were the case, then there would still be small pox where they poop on ground, there are low food supplies and clean water is not available, which includes way too much of the world. Its a hoax, end of story http://whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html That website is the laughing stock of the internet. The author clearly has no understanding of science, medicine or vaccines. Gee, it seems like that childhood shots.com site is motivated by money. $20 for a DVD? They cost like $1 to make. Gee, your vaccine pals make billions killing and maiming kids every year. I don't have vaccine pals. I put far more trust in what WHO and the CDC say than you. Jeff You would, being on the same level--psychopathy. |
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Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
"Jeff" wrote in message news:83Jyj.7340$e_.1913@trnddc03... I don't have vaccine pals. you're an allopath http://whale.to/a/allopathy_h.html go figure |
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