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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
On Aug 24, 2:45 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
As far as "reliable sources" ... you have in no way proven yourself capable of judging such. You still quote Barrett's "quackwatch" frequently ... a partisan business to sell their "anti-quackery" point of view via blogs, websites, and their biased books, articles and courses. Well now Ilena, I assume you are mistrusting the information that comes from the CDC, WHO, UNICEF, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation??? Or are you still tauting your 7 "possible" deaths from Gardasil, in comparison to 250,000 - 290,000 deaths of women from Cervical Cancer globally??? While your hyping your anti-vac platform, please do inform folks, that you think we ought to go back 100 years in time, when disease - Polio, Typhus, Measles, Small Pox, etc. claimed millions of lives, because vaccines were only a pipe dream! Ilena Rosenthal promotes the little picture of 7 "possible" deaths, while ignoring the millions of lives saved! http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, Myrl wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:50 pm, wrote: On Aug 23, 11:52 am, Myrl wrote: It is estimated that between 250,000 - 290,000 women a year globally, die from Cervical Cancer. It has also been estimated that 70% of these are caused by HPV virus, which could be prevented with Gardasil. Myrl, If Cervical cancer is caused somewhat by HPV and this is transmitted sexually, where does the culprit HPV reside in the male? ( I am assuming a non-gay life style, unless HPV can live on a female finger.) Why does the testes not rot from the HPV, or the penis fall off. Very confusing this. DrCee Not a member of the church of modern medicine. I haven't really researched symptoms in males. However, the HPV virus does cause genital warts, which on a male would become evident fairly soon, I would think. Quick evidence, would likely lead to quick treatment, and possibly take care of the problem before their penis fell off (as you put it). I have read other material, that suggests that un-circumcised men can carry the virus under their foreskins. But, it would take someone with more medical and scientific background than I, to confirm or make more absolute statements in that regard!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you are talking to someone who has completed two PhD degrees. Both in science and medicine. My questions are valid. Why is HPV sex specific? Why are males not dying of some kind of HPV induced cancer like females? Why are males not being forced to be immunized to prevent their illnesses and the infection of females? Where does the HPV reside in the male? The testes, the penis, the prostate? Where? Provide some kind of proof please. Where is the proof that the HPV vaccine has prevented even one case of cancer in a human, male or female? Sell your Merck stock. This vaccine cannot succeed. It is a total scam and lie. It can be used to sterilize millions of young females who will never know why they are infertile. Will we be forced to protect our daughters by shooting the doctors? DrCee Not a member of the church of modern medicine. |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/myrl.html wrote:
The information I have gathered has come from reliable sources. Not from Merck. Thank you for admitting that Merck is not a reliable source. You keep mentioning "9" deaths linked to Gardasil in the United States. The VAERS base lists seven ... http://tinyurl.com/27umst Please cite your "reliable sources" regarding the other reported two deaths in the United States. Thank you. |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
ince Myrl Jeffcoat jumped into the Murky Merck Propaganda ... she has
made various claims about the reported deaths. Four direct quotes are below. I fully disagree with your "simple math" claims ... neither the true risks nor the true benefits are known ... www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/myrl.html wrote: The information I have gathered has come from reliable sources. Not from Merck. Thank you for admitting that Merck is not a reliable source. You keep mentioning "9" deaths linked to Gardasil in the United States. The VAERS base lists seven ... http://tinyurl.com/27umst Please cite your "reliable sources" regarding the other reported two deaths in the United States. Thank you. Below are 3 confusing quotes direct from Myrl's confusing postings. http://groups.google.co.cr/group/mis...43dafac164d81e Myrl Jeffcoat Speak : "Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9 from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint lipstick on your pig?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Myrl Speaketh Again: Again folks!. . .There are reports of 9 "possible" deaths from Gardasil. 250,000 die from Cervical Cancer each year. 250,000 - 9 = 249,991 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MyrlSpeak: She's so focused on bashing the idea that a vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives saved! |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
On Aug 24, 4:45 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/myrl.htmlwrote: The information I have gathered has come from reliable sources. Not from Merck. Thank you for admitting that Merck is not a reliable source. Nor is Women in Government and the dozens of Vac Machine "non profits" funded by money funneled down by Merck. They are all getting paid to publish on as many forums as possible the identical propganda you post here, Myrl Jeffcoat. As far as "reliable sources" ... you have in no way proven yourself capable of judging such. You still quote Barrett's "quackwatch" frequently ... a partisan business to sell their "anti-quackery" point of view via blogs, websites, and their biased books, articles and courses. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...watchwatch.htm Who are you working for that you admit your are not alone in profiting from? Your chronic scare-mongering dog and pony show is revealing, while you lie about not wanting to have vaccines removed from the market. |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
On Aug 24, 4:56 pm, wrote:
Well, you are talking to someone who has completed two PhD degrees. Both in science and medicine. My questions are valid. Why is HPV sex specific? Why are males not dying of some kind of HPV induced cancer like females? Why are males not being forced to be immunized to prevent their illnesses and the infection of females? Where does the HPV reside in the male? The testes, the penis, the prostate? Where? Provide some kind of proof please. Where is the proof that the HPV vaccine has prevented even one case of cancer in a human, male or female? Sell your Merck stock. This vaccine cannot succeed. It is a total scam and lie. It can be used to sterilize millions of young females who will never know why they are infertile. Will we be forced to protect our daughters by shooting the doctors? DrCee Not a member of the church of modern medicine.- Hide quoted text - If you feel that if you feel that strongly, you shouldn't immunize your daughters! I do not support mandatory vaccination at this time. I would suspect that HPV infected men, manifest symptoms through very visible genital warts, which are treated fairly soon. . .I'm not sold on the idea that vaccinating men, wouldn't protect them, and ultimately the women they sexually enteract with! You are free to believe what you wish! |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
On Aug 24, 6:56 pm, wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, Myrl wrote: On Aug 24, 1:50 pm, wrote: On Aug 23, 11:52 am, Myrl wrote: It is estimated that between 250,000 - 290,000 women a year globally, die from Cervical Cancer. It has also been estimated that 70% of these are caused by HPV virus, which could be prevented with Gardasil. Myrl, If Cervical cancer is caused somewhat by HPV and this is transmitted sexually, where does the culprit HPV reside in the male? ( I am assuming a non-gay life style, unless HPV can live on a female finger.) Why does the testes not rot from the HPV, or the penis fall off. Very confusing this. DrCee Not a member of the church of modern medicine. I haven't really researched symptoms in males. However, the HPV virus does cause genital warts, which on a male would become evident fairly soon, I would think. Quick evidence, would likely lead to quick treatment, and possibly take care of the problem before their penis fell off (as you put it). I have read other material, that suggests that un-circumcised men can carry the virus under their foreskins. But, it would take someone with more medical and scientific background than I, to confirm or make more absolute statements in that regard!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you are talking to someone who has completed two PhD degrees. Both in science and medicine. My questions are valid. And you STILL can not find your own answers? BWWhahahahah Ineffective smartass....... |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
On Aug 24, 4:57 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/myrl.htmlwrote: The information I have gathered has come from reliable sources. Not from Merck. Thank you for admitting that Merck is not a reliable source. You keep mentioning "9" deaths linked to Gardasil in the United States. The VAERS base lists seven ...http://tinyurl.com/27umst Please cite your "reliable sources" regarding the other reported two deaths in the United States. Thank you. The 9 "possible" deaths related to Gardasil, which I quoted was a "global" number - not a number in the in United States. That's your mis-quote of my words again. I have not said that Merck wasn't a reliable source. I simply said that I didn't quote Merck. Please do not attempt to twist my words, to enhance your career as Ilena Hyena The Internet Rodeo Clown! How much do you get paid for that job, by the way? http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm Yes Myrl ... there are women worldwide dying of cervical, breast, uterine, bone, brain and other cancers. That's not disputed. Gardasil is a mutli-billion dollar unproven drug that you are hawking here to help Merck have a net income of over $4 billion dollars this year ... There is a cover up of the dangers going on ... just like there has been with breast implants ... now with your and Coleah's help on Usenet. You've lied and twisted the truth about me for O'leary & Barrett ... and not you're doing the same for Merck to sell a drug that so little is known about ... schoolgirls are being used for lab rats and are dying and being made ill by painful diseases like Guillain Barre. You can blame these deaths and illnesses on everything but the Gardasil ... Your mentor Barrett blames MCS on everything but the chemicals ... He's dead wrong and so are you both. About many, many, many things. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...srosenthal.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm |
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Women in Government, Merck's Trojan Horse: Part Three in a Series on the Politics and PR of Cervical Cancer
"Myrl" wrote in message ups.com... You are free to believe what you wish! you sure do belief: Whatever an individual is willing to accept without direct verification by experience or without the support of evidence, resulting in assumption which is taken as a basis for action or non-action. "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe - I believe what I believe is right." -George W. Bush, in Rome, July 22, 2001 Myrl and Coleen are classic examples of: In the entire history of man, no one has ever been brainwashed and realized, or believed, that he had been brainwashed. Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" . . . or have been transformed in miraculous ways. ------Dick Sutphen |
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