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F Crime: Was the first atom bomb tested in Calif? What ifHarvard knew the Bassin study was fatally flawed?



 
 
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Old September 4th 05, 04:24 PM
Todd Gastaldo
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Default F Crime: Was the first atom bomb tested in Calif? What ifHarvard knew the Bassin study was fatally flawed?

F CRIME

WAS THE FIRST ATOM BOMB TESTED IN CALIF?

WHAT IF HARVARD KNEW THE BASSIN STUDY WAS FATALLY FLAWED?


STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS MYERS AND SPITZER * SUSPECTED (MASS) CHILD ABUSE

See below.


USING **ALL** OUR SKILLS...

Regarding Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link...

PAUL CONNETT PhD wrote in his Fluoride Action Network/FAN CAMPAIGN Bulletin
#261:

"[W]e have to use ALL our skills to convince people that even one child
should not be sacrificed..." (emphasis added)

More recently, Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link
stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write to the EPA
Administrator:

"...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the
elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer."
http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm


ATTORNEY GENERAL SKILLS...

ATTENTION New York State Atty Genıl Eliot Spitzer via
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/email_ag.jsp

ATTENTION Oregon Atty Genıl Hardy Meyers (via :
SUSPECTED (MASS) CHILD ABUSE REPORT

Please use your attorney general skills to stop municipal chemotherapists
(elected officials) from administering poisonous chemotherapy to everyone -
without medical licenses - without everyoneıs consent.

Under the common law doctrine of informed consent * mass water poisoning
without everyoneıs consent is illegal * even if it PREVENTS osteosarcoma.

An interesting email I received...apparently from an attorney...

From:
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 05:00:14 EDT
To: ,
Subject: Fluoride chemotherapy crime: Are municipal chemotherapists
immune from pr...

Dear tgastaldo: I just read your email. If I understand your position, you
consider fluoridation of drinking water a crime. If so you are right.
However, If you consider it a crime there must be a defendant and a
prosecutor willing to submit the crime to a grand jury. I prosecuted one of
the first "informed consent" cases in Texas. I won it, and medical
malpractice has not been the same since. However, it was not a criminal case
but a civil case. The civil case is based on negligence, the criminal case
is based on a criminal law requiring knowledge of the law and an intentional
violation of the law. There are laws making it a crime to pollute drinking
water, so I think you are correct that there is a pursuable crime involved.
Let me hear more from you. ECJr

[GASTALDO REMARKS: I thank this writer for his encouragment. I am pretty
sure that in Oregon Grand Jurors are in charge * they just donıt know it *
they can investigate anything they want - with the District Attorneys or
Attorney General working for them * not limiting what they investigate.]

------ End of message from

, apparently an attorney, was a recipient of a response
I recently received from Paul Connett, PhD, Executive Director of the
Fluoride Action Network... I thank him for his remarks. Thanks Earle.




CONNETTıS BIZARRE BEHAVIOR...

Paul Connettıs call to use ALL our skills does not square with his bizarre
refusal to publicize on his website and in his FAN Campaign Bulletin the
fact that the common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that
fluoridation is a CRIME * battery.

Making Paulıs omission still more bizarre is the fact that he repeatedly
ASKS (in his 50 QUESTIONS essay) whether it is OK to medicate without
consent...

Earth to Paul: The common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that
it is NOT ok * itıs a CRIME to medicate without consent * even medication
with GOOD medicine without consent is a crime.

I have been asking myself why Paul is failing to urge people to urge their
Members of Congress to BOTH hold the hearings that EPA employee unions are
calling for because of the Bassin study AND urge their Members of Congress
to demand that state attorney generals immediately end the mass water
poisoning...

Paul is putting a LOT of eggs into the Bassin fluoride-causes-osteosarcoma
basket....

REMEMBER: The common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that
administering the cumulative poison fluoride without consent is a crime even
if the poison PREVENTS osteosarcoma.


WHAT IF THE BASSIN STUDY IS PROVEN FATALLY FLAWED?

What if thatıs part of the PLAN of the fluoridationistas?

It is interesting that Paul Connett, PhD credited his son Michael Connett
for the recent Wall Street Journal coverage of the apparent four year
cover-up of Dr. Elise Bassinıs Harvard PhD thesis:

"Had not a member of the Fluoride Action Network (my son in fact) gone
to the rare books section of the Harvard Library, and copied the
relevant chapter of Bassin–s thesis, the public-at-large would never
have heard of this work (see WSJ, B1, July 22, 2005)."

FORGET Harvardıs alleged cover-up guy Chester Douglass - why did DR. ELISE
BASSIN remain silent for four years?

Did Elise not understand the import of her own thesis?!

After all, once her thesis was discovered (by Michael Connett), it suddenly
stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write:

"...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the
elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer."
http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm

What WAS Elise Bassin thinking for four years?!

Was she threatened that she would be ruined if she said anything? (Did
anyone else see Paul Newman in The Verdict? A nurse was forced to change a
chart when a patient died. She quit nursing * but came back as Newmanıs
star witness in the case.)

OR... What if Harvard FRAUDULENTLY issued Elise Bassin her PhD KNOWING that
her PhD thesis was fatally flawed? This too would tend to keep one silent
about oneıs thesis...

What if Harvard is ACTIVELY WORKING to keep the atom bomb/fluoridation link
covered-up? (Hopefully, everyone has read the Chris Brysonıs incredible book
The Fluoride Deception [2004].)

I mention these possibilities because...well...Paulıs glaring acts of
omission are quite disturbing...


HARVARD AND THE ATOM BOMB...

Harvard President James Conant, was a central player in the
fluorine-dependent development of the atom bomb...

....which MAY have included intentionally blowing up Black sailors at Port
Chicago in California...

Nuclear or not, the story of the 1944 explosion at Port Chicago in Contra
Costa County, California is amazing.

In 1995, Harry Martin wrote:

Port Chicago was rebuilt in one week after its destruction. Two hundred
black sailors died in the explosion.
* There was a Navy mutiny at Port Chicago after the blast.
* The Navy was photographing the entire blast from across the Bay.
* In a top secret report on a nuclear detonation after Port Chicago, the
notes state that it was a "Port Chicago-type" explosion in similarity and
form.
* One of the highest rates of cancer in the United States is in Contra
Costa County.
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/usa5.html

In 1994, David Caul and Susan Todd mentioned then-Harvard Pres. James
Conant...

²There is yet another letter in the paper trail leading back to a suspected
nuclear explosion at Port Chicago. This letter was first made public in the
Napa Sentinel magazine in February 1994. James Conant, who was a member of
the board of directors of the Manhattan Project referred to a full-scale
test of the weapon in a letter to General Groves. In the letter he indicated
that the secret test occurred shortly before August 1944. The Port Chicago
explosion took place on July 17, 1944. The explosion Conant refers to was a
year before the Trinity test, which has officially been documented as the
first atomic test.²
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/usa4.html

I wrote in a 2001 usenet post:

Captain Parsons, the naval
commander at Port Chicago was promoted to commodore immediately

after
the
explosion and was aboard the Enola Gay when it dropped the bomb on
Hiroshima, after which he was made a rear admiral. *Before the

explosion
at
Port Chicago, Parsons had been stationed at Los Alamos where the

atom
bomb
was being developed in the Manhattan Project. [See the Napa Sentinel
series
of articles on the subject beginning in 1990 with Martin HV. A

mushroom
cloud: what really happened at Port Chicago in 1944 and culminating

with
Caul D, Todd S. Port Chicago: epilog - it was a nuclear blast. Napa
Sentinel
(Aug5)1994, 925 Lincoln Ave., Napa, CA 94558, tel. (707) 757-4200.]


According to the Napa Sentinel, there is a paper trail. *A Los

Alamos
document describing nuclear detonation reportedly states, "Ball of

fire
mushrooms out at 18,000 ft in typical Port Chicago fashion"; and

Harvard
president James Conant, a member of the board of directors of the
Manhattan
Project, reportedly mentions in a letter to General Leslie Groves

that
a
secret test occurred shortly before August 1944. *Most

interestingly,
the
figures in Conant's report to Groves about the secret 1944 test
reportedly
match exactly the damage report Captain Parsons wrote after the Port
Chicago
explosion. [Napa Sentinel 1994, cited above.]


I will copy this to: David Caul and Susan Todd via
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/usa5.html

With that PORT CHICAGO preface, I now move to Eleanorıs email (see below)
praising ³our beloved² Paul Connett and nicely trashing of me for deigning
to publicly question Paul Connettıs bizarre omissions (see above).

Eleanor,

I scanned your email quickly and did not see your last name.

I assume you are Eleanor Krinsky, a member of Paul Connettıs ³National Dream
Team.²

I liked that you referred to mass water poisoning (³fluoridation²) as ³the
child abuse (and adult abuse) that is going on.²

But you forgot to mention the key point at issue * Paul is failing to
publicize the fact that the common law doctrine of informed consent
indicates that medication even with good medicine is a battery.

I mention your omission because, of course, the common law doctrine of
informed consent is the REASON that (as you indicate) the mass water
poisoning is child abuse * battery against children is child abuse.

³THE PROPER THING²

You wrote that ³it does not appear optimistic to look to Attorney Generals
to do the proper thing to remedy the child abuse...²

It does not appear TO YOU (or to ³our beloved² Paul Connett) that attorney
generals can be counted on.

In fact, remedying child abuse is the proper JOB of attorney generals!

And TELLING attorney generals about child abuse is the job of dentists who
so much as SUSPECT it * i.e. - the ³proper thing² - when one so much as
SUSPECTS child abuse * is to report it * and this reporting ³thing² is so
³proper² that it is MANDATORY if one is a licensed health professional who
encounters children manifesting overt evidence of fluoride poisoning.

Dentists who see dental fluorosis should report the dental fluorosis as
SUSPECTED child abuse and they should name as the suspected perpetrators the
municipal chemotherapists (elected officials) who are doing the illegal
poisoning.

REMEMBER: Paul wrote in his Fluoride Action Network/FAN CAMPAIGN Bulletin
#261:

"[W]e have to use ALL our skills to convince people that even one child
should not be sacrificed..." (emphasis added)

With "...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the
elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer."
http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm

It is time for Paul to mention the crime aspect of the mass water poisoning
* and call upon Members of Congress to both hold their hearings and urge
state attorney generals to SIMPLY DO THEIR JOB and remedy the mass child
abuse finally.

Or he could say itıs my idea and itıs crazy * but he should at least mention
it.

You wrote:

³[E]veryone has the right to act independently and can pursue this course if
they so choose. Nothing ventured, nothing gained...²

Actually, mandatory suspected child abuse reporters among us (including and
esp. dentists who suspect abuse) MUST pursue this course...

But ANYONE may report.

St. Petersburg Times staff writer Michael Sandler apparently reported my
suspected child abuse report:

"[An opponent] filed a complaint with the Sheriff's Office on Wednesday,
suggesting [Pinellas County public officials] Talley
and Heilman should be charged with 'child abuse.'"
http://stpetetimes.com/2004/07 /09/Tampabay/Chemists_criticiz e_fl.shtml

St. Petersburg Times staff writer Michael forgot to report that I said I
don't want Talley or Heilman punished - I just want municipalities to stop
injecting toxic waste into drinking water...

See Chemically beating children: Dr. Gastaldo's SUSPECTED CHILD ABUSE REPORT
to Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com /group/chiro-list/message/2646

If I were a boy about to have my limb amputated - possibly because I had
been drinking a cumulative poison that does not need to be in the water - I
would want EVERYONE to be reporting the water poisoning crime as child
abuse.

But that's just me.

FAN's Paul Connett, PhD said people would laugh if people started filing
suspected child abuse reports.

I don't think any boys about to have a limb amputated because of
osteosarcoma would laugh.

Probably their parents wouldn't laugh either.

Indeed, MOST people - once informed - might start reporting...

TO OREGON ANTI-FLUORIDE PROTESTERS:

The State of Oregon says:

"ALL OREGON CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SUSPECTED [CHILD ABUSE] TO DHS
OR LAW ENFORCEMENT. Over 25 percent of the substantiated cases of child
abuse are reported by concerned citizens who are not required to report.
Failure to report is a violation and carries a maximum penalty of $1,000.00.
Mandatory reporters have also been successfully sued for damages in civil
court for failing to report.İ‹
http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/chil dren/abuse/cps/report.shtml

Eleanor, in conceding that reporting suspected child abuse is an option
wrote:

³but one should not depend on the outcome, nor should one put off more
hopeful activities to turn the fluoridation tide.²

I am NOT putting off what Eleanor believes is a ³more hopeful activity²!!!

I signed the POWA petition (signature 577) and encourage others to do so *
as I encourage them ALSO to urge their Members of Congress to demand that
attorney generals simply DO THEIR JOB.

I have also noted that EACH STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHOULD IMMEDIATELY
CONTACT CDC...

BECAUSE (I say again):

"At issue is...CDC...trampling on the human right to informed consent..."
--The International Institute of Concern for Public Health
(IICPH) quoted in Paul Connett's FAN CAMPAIGN BULLETIN #257 (July 9, 2005)

Fortunately, CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and
Disease Registry/ATSDR "work[s] with states and other federal
agencies to prevent exposure to hazardous substances from waste sites."
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/DRO/r 1.html

"Fluoridation" is the hazardous substance (hydrofluorosilicic acid w/
arsenic and
lead) from phosphate fertilizer waste sites/scrubbers being injected into
America's water supply. (Some municipalities are using "pure" poison -
sodium fluoride.)

While it is always good to contact one's Congressional representative with
concerns, when CRIME is being committed, one petitions/reports to the
EXECUTIVE branch of government - law enforcement.

Fluoridation could end before Congress has to get involved.

My further comments are interspersed ##### in Eleanorıs email....


Hi everyone:

Sorry for this long e-mail. Read the parts you want and have time for.

I wanted to give my input on two inter-connected matters:

(1) Dr. Todd Gestaldo's frustration and insistence that his approach be
followed of primarily directing efforts on State Attorney Generals. (I will
convey our own experience in this regard below), and

##### ³My² approach is the approach of the State of Oregon. When child abuse
so much as SUSPECTED, mandatory reporters who suspect it MUST report it. Do
dentists who support FAN suspect child abuse when they see evidence of
fluoride poisoning (dental fluorosis)? Has anyone asked them? Bill Osmunson,
DDS, MPH * do you? Remember, all one has to do is SUSPECT it * and report the
crime. See above.

(2) Dr. Gestaldo's unfairly directing his fault-finding toward Dr. Paul
Connett in not followng Dr. Gestaldo's approach..

##### I am biased of course, but I think I am being QUITE fair * I am doing
BOTH. Paul is only doing ONE. Yet he says we should use ALL our skills.

We are all so busy in our joint efforts to make as much progress as possible
in our present major project in support of the remarkable 11 EPA Unions to
bring about a national moratorium and full Congressional hearing, as well as
keeping up with the daily tasks of our local or statewide group.. Thus, it is
a pity to take any time out that should be devoted to encouraging and
producing as many letters, phone calls, e-mails, faxes and visits to
Congressional offices as possible, and of course, as many to sign on to the
Protect Our Water Alliance Online Petition. But I find myself compelled to
doing just that.

##### Eleanor, I am glad you took time out to indicate that the mass water
poisoning is child abuse and adult abuse.

Matter #1: I agree wholeheartedly with the others who have written to stand up
for our beloved Paul Connett.

##### Paul does a lot of things right * but his glaring error of omission
disturbs me greatly. Some boys may be having legs amputated because of the
mass water poisoning * yet Paul is ignoring LEGAL reports! Failing to urge
people * including and especially supportive dentists * if they so much as
SUSPECT child abuse when they see evidence of fluoride poisoning (dental
fluorosis).


He is as fine a person anyone could have the privilege of knowing.

##### Yes, he does seem a fine person * except for the glaring acts of
omission.

He and his wonderful family (Ellen, his wife, and Mike, his son) have
sacrificed so much for this cause.

#### Yes! How cool that Paulıs son Michael brought the Bassin paper to the
worldıs attention! (See Paulıs comment quoted above.)

We will be everlastingly grateful for all they have done and continue to do.

##### The glaring acts of omission * they are disturbing.

Paul has given us continuing guidance, leadership and inspiration. I also
consider him our mentor, responding to one's questions, spending his time to
so generously provide us with technical knowledge, scientific enlightenment,
and help in so many things that have come up. And on top of all his
responsibilities and long hours he puts in, he maintains his patience,
thoughtfulness, pleasant disposition and sense of humor.

I had the privilege of being in Chicago to join Paul Connett and the terrific
group of people he put together to picket the 60th fluoridation"celebration"
in Chicago held jointly by the private group ADA, and the government's CDC.
We made our mark, and the pro-fluoridation zealots won't soon forget us. We
also met with several receptive. Illinois legislators. Paul did not stop
for a moment and even when his leg was hurting him, and we had to walk a
distance, he visibly limped along in discomfort, not complaining and not
letting it deter him from our agenda. He is one outstanding, honorable,
one-in-a- million person. He came along at this time of fluoridation's
history as though summoned from above.

##### Hmmmm.... ³Summoned from above²... The fluoride polluters very likely
would LOVE to have someone at head of the pack, running the pack away from the
obvious: The common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that
fluoridation is a CRIME- battery * and battery against children is child abuse
* with MANDATORY reports if child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED. See above.

It is unthinkable and absolutely preposterous that anyone should question
Paul's character, integrity or motivation.

###### It is actually ESSENTIAL to question glaring acts of omission.

Now to Dr. Gestaldo's grievances, I did want to express the fact that we
appreciate every opponent of fluoridation, whether on ethical, medical,
dental, scientific, environmental or economic grounds, or a combination of
reasons.

##### Thank you, Eleanor. I appreciate your efforts * including your
expression of support for Paul. I found him to be quite charming when we
spoke on the phone.

We must not become adversaries because we are on the same side.. I hope Dr.
Gestaldo will reconsider his harsh attitude toward anyone who may have another
approach.

##### It is Paul who harbors the harsh attitude toward someone (me) who has
another approach * another approach that happens also to be the approach of
every state in the union when child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED. See above.

Over the years there has been a variety of ways, methods, avenues, strategies
and approaches we and others have used. None of us have crystal balls. We
are all volunteers, working under the handicap of meager funds trying to
accomplish major things against the greatest odds. What may work during a
particular period of time, or in a particular area, may not work at another
time or in another area. I see no problem in someone tactfully giving
constructive observations and suggestions to consider, of course, but just as
we oppose the rule of force that fluoridation represents, we should follow the
same attitude in making suggestions to each other.

##### Paul could MENTION (on his website and in his FAN Campaign Bulletin)
that the common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that fluoride is a
crime * battery * and that battery against children is child abuse * and that
dentists who suspect child abuse/fluoride poisoning when they see dental
fluorosis should immediately report in accord with the law * and that others
may do so as well. (Again, the State of Oregon ENCOURAGES such reports from
anyone who suspects child abuse.)

No matter what, mutual courtesy and respect is a good thing for our overall
goals. Let's leave the fighting among the pro-fluoridation pushers.

##### Paulıs glaring acts of omission disturb me greatly. I do not find Paul
to be exhibiting ³mutual courtesy and respect² - to me * or to children who
deserve the protection of the child protection statutes.

Matter #2: Being a part of an organization, New York State Coalition
Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc., for over 30 years, we have also tried a variety
of methods, including from time to time, writing to the State Attorney
General's Office. The rules on fluoridation vary according to one's state.
For instance, in NYS, we have in writing from our NYS Attorney General's
office, in response to a NYS Senator in 1982 who wrote on our behalf, that
fluoridation is not considered a proper subject for a referendum. Evidently
they want to leave it up to legislators, not citizens. In NYS no initiative
referendums are permitted to force a referendum. Actually, our position on
referendums is that a referendum is the lesser of two evils, a referendum or a
mandate,. Of course, a referendum is preferable to a mandate. Ideally,
taking care of one's teeth should be an INDIVIDUAL decision, not a community
decision.

We have copies of letters in our files since the 1980s addressed to the New
York State Attorney General. Also, we had a member who knew then NYS Attorney
General Robert Abrams personally in previous causes they both worked in, and
he wrote to him in May 1984 and enclosed some information, asking him to look
into this.

##### No mention of the common law doctrine of informed consent. Maybe it was
not yet settled common law?

In 1986, a letter from then Attorney General Abram's office to one of our
members, informed her that although the EPA has proposed to increase the
federal MCL to 4.0 mg/l, NYS standard will remain at 2.2 mg/l, and they have
kept to that word to this day (not that 2.2 mg/l is justifiable either).

In 1990, we wrote to Attorney General Abrams again, updating information and
enclosing a number of items including the C&EN report of 1988, etc.

On June 9, 1993, Janet Nagel, Ed. at that time residing in Bellingham,
Washington and very active in the Health Action Network along with Anne
Anderson, wife of Dr. Foulkes, came up with a new approach. She wrote to the
State of Washington's Attorney General Christine Gregoire, motivated by the
efforts and the documents of New Jersey Assemblyman John V. Kelly and his
discovery that the U.S. FDA had never approved prescription fluoride
supplements commonly prescribed to infants and children in the State of
Washington and all over the country. Evidence of safety and effectiveness is
required for FDA approval under federal law. Janet wrote a very well written
letter, providing important information, and she wound up her letter by
stating,

"In the absence of federal regulations which afford appropriate
protection of the public from the hazards of fluoride, I believe state action
should be considered. I would like to know your evaluation of this matter."

#### BRAVO Janet Nagel!

Janet Nagel of the Health Action Network in Bellingham, got a reply from
Christine O. Gregoire, Attorney General, stating:

"Thank you for your letter of June 9 regarding the dangers of fluoride.
...Until I received your letter, I was unaware that there were any questions
regarding the use of fluoride. As I am not very familiar with these issues I
have asked Russell Morris of my staff to look into it further...."

I am not aware that anything further came of this..

##### I believe Christine O. Gregoire is now the chief law enforcement officer
(governor) for Washington State?

On August 2, 1993, because of Janet Nagel's action, we at NYSCOF got a letter
out to OUR NYS Attorney General Robert Abrams, using the same approach
regarding NJ Assemblyman Kelly's discovery that fluoride supplements never
obtained FDA approval of safety and effectiveness. We requested their
examination, evaluation and assistance. Of course, nothing definitive came of
our request.

On August 24, 1993, we received an answer from Shirley Stark, Assistant
Attorney General, which briefly but significantly stated,

"Thank you for your letter of August 2nd. We have sent a copy of your
letter to the New York State Department of Health so that we can get their
input on the issue of the safety of fluoride supplements. Once we receive
their response we will be in touch with you to discuss the matter further. We
appreciate your bringing this matter to our attention." (boldness added)

(Note: No surprise that they turned to the NYS Department of Health, which is
typical., Don't remember hearing from them further. We ourselves I suppose
should have pursued it further at that time, but it is impossible to keep up
with everything, we are so diluted. We opponents of fluoridation do not have
the luxury of staff, resources, facilities, etc., so it is hard to do
everything we want to do, or follow up on everything.

##### When it is SUSPECTED that children are being abused en masse, it is
ILLEGAL for mandatory reporters to FAIL report.

In June, 2004: After Christopher Bryson's THE FLUORIDE DECEPTION came out,
Carol Patton was in touch with us, suggesting we contact our NYS Attorney
General Eliot Spitzer. We did not see any e-mail number for him, so we wrote
to him via his web site on June 8, 2004. I don't believe we ever heard from
him. Again, we did not write again, because we were involved in many other
organizational activities.

##### As indicated above, I have copied this to New York State Attorney
General Eliot Spitzer via http://www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/email_ag.jsp

Maryland's Bernie Miltenberger's e-mail of 9/1/05 gave everyone important
information as to what we are up against with law enforcement and lawsuits.
The bottom line comes down to "POLICE POWER" (what a terrible expression and
what a terrible policy). Bernie and his group went through the mill trying to
win his lawsuit to defeat fluoridation. Their perseverance was unbelievable,
but in the end they came up against this stone wall of Police Power.

As he explained in his e-mail to Todd Gestaldo:
---------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Todd,
*
****I don't know you, but your remarks about Paul and child battery are a
little over the top.* If you actually ever spent money to hire an attorney to
try to fight water fluoridation at the Federal or State levels like the Pure
Water Committee of Western Maryland, Inc. has done and the wonderful Jeff
Green and*company are trying to do, you would have run right up against this
wall as follows:*
*
Community fluoridation scored a big victory last month in the Escondido
fluoridation case. The plaintiffs had challenged the city's plan to fluoridate
its water; the lower court ruled in the city's favor; and the plaintiffs
appealed. A key quote from the appellate court's opinion: "[C]ourts
through[out] the United States have uniformly held that fluoridation of water
is a reasonable and proper exercise of the police power in the interest of
public health.... The matter is no longer an open question." This case was a
great example of behind-the-scenes advocacy by ADA staff, who provided
expertise and support for the state attorneys. The lead attorney credits the
ADA's recent Fluoridation Symposium as being essential in arming her for the
oral argument.
*
An Attorney General or States Attorney worth his salts that*studies case
law*on water fluoridation would state that numerous court case show that water
fluoridation to be*a reasonable and proper exercise of police power in the
intent of public health.* Your battery charges would be fall on deaf ears.*
Dr. Connett, Ellen, and Mike are people that I consider personal friends with
honor and integrity that few*people possess.* I hope in the future that you
can refrain from personal attacks on Paul's character.* This movement needs
your energy* to be focused on the goals of the National Dream Team.*
*
Good Day,
*
Bernard W. Miltenberger
--------------------------------------------------------------
(end of Bernie Miltenberger's e-mail)

##### Here is how I responded to Bernieıs email....

Paul Connett recently quoted the appellate court's decision in the

anti-fluoride movement's recent loss in Escondido:

"[C]ourts through[out] the United States have uniformly held that fluoridation
of water is a reasonable and proper exercise of the police power in the
interest of public health.... The matter is no longer an open question."

Bernie Miltonberger of Paul's National Dream Team quoted the appellate court
for me and wrote:

"An Attorney General or States Attorney worth his salts...would state that
numerous court case show that water fluoridation to be a reasonable and proper
exercise of police power in the intent of public health."

Bernie, I would reply to those Attorney Generals and States Attorneys: Only
in emergencies - i.e. epidemics - where public health is threatened is
compulsory medication - i.e. Vaccination - a legitimate police power.

And this latter legitimate police power is OPTIONAL - i.e. - people can get
religious or philosophical exemptions in most states.

Note well: If the mass poisoning called fluoridation is the obvious fraud
that Paul Connett indicates it is (see www.fluoridealert.org), then all those
courts throughout the United States that "uniformly held that fluoridation of
water is a reasonable and proper exercise of police power" - wittingly or
unwittingly participated in the fraud.

It would be poetic justice to finally see "police power" - state attorney
generals - use Paul Connett's web site and STOP this bizarre "exercise of
police power" that has the cumulative poison fluoride being injected into
America's drinking water.

Accordingly, I am again cc'ing my state's attorney general, Hardy Myers via
.

I urge others to contact their state's attorney general - and to contact their
Members of Congress and urge that they do the same.

It was a post with that idea that moved members of Paul's "National Dream
Team" to say "terrific!" (Gene Burke) and "great!!" (Crystal Harvey)


#### Eleanor continued....

We in New York also came up with that same wind-up in the lawsuit commenced
around 1979 to try to stop fluoridation in New York City, mandated since 1965.
Dr. John Yiamouyiannis and lawyer, John Remington Graham, were key people in
this lawsuit for our side, the plaintiff's. In the end, the Judge sent us
back to the legislators if we wanted to change the law. In other words, it
doesn't matter according to them that people are being harmed, it is
jurisdiction that counts along with its Police Power.

###### No mention of the common law doctrine of informed consent. Also,
there is the matter of Bassin epidemiologic osteosarcoma/fluoridation link.
First, attorney generals must be interested though. (Or grand jurors can act
on their own - see my comment in Earleıs email above.) Letters from Members of
Congress urging them to immediately stop the mass water poisoning would be
immensely helpful - as would suspected child abuse reports about the mass
battery from FAN-affiliated dentists who suspect child abuse when they see
dental fluorosis.

While it does not appear optimistic to look to Attorney Generals to do the
proper thing to remedy the child abuse (and adult abuse) that is going on,
everyone has the right to act independently and can pursue this course if they
so choose. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, but one should not depend on the
outcome, nor should one put off more hopeful activities to turn the
fluoridation tide.

##### One can do BOTH - as I have done. Paul engages in a glaring act of
omission - he calls for us to use ALL our skills - but doesnıt even MENTION
asking Members of Congress to urge state attorney generals to end the mass
water poisoning because itıs medication without consent - battery - even as he
ASKS (in his famous 50 Reasons essay) whether it is OK to medicate without
consent.

##### Paul recently wrote that he "won't go along with my strategy for ending
water fluoridation."


#### As I indicated in the post to which Paul was responding...

#### Part of my strategy is to deconstruct the pristine euphemism and call
"fluoridation" what it is - exposure to hazardous substances from waste
sites.

#### Part of my strategy is to contact CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and
Disease Registry/ATSDR - for two reasons (mentioned above - but here they
are again)....

1. CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR "work[s]
with states and other federal agencies to prevent exposure to hazardous
substances from waste sites."
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/DRO/r 1.html

2. Hazardous substances (hydrofluorosilicic acid, arsenic and lead) -
derived from waste sites (phosphate fertilizer pollution scrubbers) - are
being injected into America's water supply. (Some municipalities are using
"pure" poison - sodium fluoride.)

#### I've written to employees of CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and
Disease Registry/ATSDR, juxtaposing these two key facts and urging CDC/ATSDR
employees to simply do their job and prevent exposure to hazardous
substances from waste sites.

##### Paul, have YOU written to employees of CDC's Agency for Toxic
Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR, juxtaposing these two key facts and
urging CDC/ATSDR employees to simply to their job and prevent exposure to
hazardous substances from waste sites?

##### Have you used your FAN Campaign Bulletin to urge others to similarly
write to CDC/ATSDR employees?

#### I suspect the answer is no - but I would love to hear otherwise.

##### If I am right about Paul remaining silent about the CDC/ATSDR matter,
that too is a glaring act of omission.

Our present joint activity is to back up Dr. Bill Hirzy and the 11 EPA Unions
in their call for a national fluoridation moratorium and full Congressional
hearing, giving testimony under oath and subject to cross-examination.

So fellow fluoridation-fighters, we'll carry on and give it our best.

Regards to all,

Eleanor

##### Thanks for writing Eleanor.

##### I hope youıll get behind urging Paul to end his glaring acts of
omission.

##### At the very least Paul could MENTION the crime aspect - the suspected
child abuse aspect. If he disagrees - if he still is worried about people
laughing at him - he could say that - but at least all the people who visit
his site would see ³my² recommended option - which also happens to be an
³option² that is MANDATORY for mandatory suspected child abuse reporters who
suspect dental fluorosis is evidence that child abuse is occuring. Again, I
donıt think boys about to have their legs amputated would laugh at the idea of
suspected child abuse reporting to stop the mass water poisoning.

##### I hope that FAN-affiliated dentists will start reporting immediately -
and call upon Members of Congress to urge state attorney generals to take
immediate action.

##### REMEMBER: PAUL CONNETT PhD wrote in his Fluoride Action Network/FAN
CAMPAIGN Bulletin

#261:

"[W]e have to use ALL our skills to convince people that even one child
should not be sacrificed..." (emphasis added)

##### REMEMBER ALSO: Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link
stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write to the EPA
Administrator:

"...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the
elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer."
http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm

###### Congress really doesnıt have to get involved - except perhaps to urge
state attorney generals to finally DO THEIR JOB - with CDC/ATSDR. Even if the
mass water poisoning PREVENTS osteosarcoma, itıs simply illegal to poison
children (and adults) without a medical license - without everyoneıs consent.

###### Thank you Eleanor for referring to the mass water poisoning
(³fluoridation²) as ³the child abuse (and adult abuse) that is going on.²

##### Sincerely,

##### Todd

##### Dr. Gastaldo
Hillsboro, Oregon


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Paul Connett, PhD replied:

Todd

I noticed you failed to answer my key questions and insteadwent into attack
mode again. Please remove my name from your email list.

Paul


(In another email, Paul had asked that I take him off my email list if I am
just going to "attack" him.)

I replied:


Paul,

I am sorry. I had intended to take your name off before I hit send.

You are attacking by omission * denying children the possibility of protection
of the child protection statutes.

I hope I am wrong about you * but I suspect I am not.

Todd

 




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