Hawaii: Ocean waterbirth vacations? (also: PACON, please forward to Prof. Golding...)

HAWAII'S OCEAN DAY (per PACON):

"The first Wednesday of June shall be known and designated as Ocean Day, in
recognition of the very significant role the ocean plays in the lives of
Hawaii's people, as well as Hawaii's culture, history, and traditions...."
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/OceanDay.html

Have Hawaiians ever used their ocean for birth?

PHOTO: Black Sea in the Crimean area of the Ukraine, where women choose to
birth their babies during the summer months.
http://www.waterbirth.org/faq.htm (video of this ocean birth is available)

Hawaii is warm all year 'round... See HAWAII OCEAN BIRTHS, discussed below.



University of Hawaii President EVAN DOBELLE ) says,

"Medical miracle...This past fall, the University of Hawaii broke ground
on...its most ambitious capital project in decades, the John A. Burns School
of Medicine...The walls are up; the foundation in place. It will be fully
operational in fall 2005."
Sunday, July 13, 2003
http://starbulletin.com/2003/07/13/e...exspecial.html

Of course, the John A Burns School of Medicine already exists...President
Evan is talking about a new building.

Hopefully soon after this email Hawaii's John A. Burns School of Medicine
will not teach medical students to close birth canals anymore (more on this
below)...


PREGNANT WOMEN: MDs are closing birth canals up to 30%. It's EASY to
allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%!

Just roll onto your side as you push your baby out! BUT - see WARNING,
WARNING, WARNING at the very end of this post...



Dear PACON 2003 International Board of Directors
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/directors.htm

PLEASE FORWARD this email to 2002 PACON International Board of Directors
member PROF RAY GOLDING of Australia...
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/2002Board.html


OPEN LETTER (archived for global access***)


Prof. Golding,

Lynton Giles, DC, PhD mentioned you in regard to the establishment of
Multidisciplinary Spinal Pain Unit in a hospital in Townsville, North
Queensland, Australia.

Dr. Giles wrote:

"[T]hree gentlemen...had the foresight and courage to support the
establishment of the Unit...[including]...PROFESSOR RAY GOLDING, who was
Vice-Chancellor of James Cook University when the Unit was established
http://www.badback.com.au/previous_a...d.asp?artid=46 (emphasis
added)

Dr. Giles' Unit is no longer in a hospital.

Since MD-obstetricians are closing birth canals and routinely/gruesomely
manipulating most babies' spines at birth...

I think every hospital should have a Multidisciplinary Spinal Pain Unit...

See Most birth spinal manipulation contraindicated...
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....earthlink.net

The reason I'm writing is that I cc'd Dr. Giles but his
email address didn't work.

If you have Dr. Giles' current email, will you forward this post to him?

Thanks,

Dr. Gastaldo


NOTE: PACON 2003 Regional Symposium
(June 29-July 2, 2003) has been postponed to November 30-December 3,
2003 (to be held
at the Hotel Splendor Kaohsiung), subject to SARS clearance by the WHO
and the CDC.
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/

University of Hawaii President EVAN DOBELLE:

You wrote:

"The second breakthrough area will be the creation of a true global presence
for the university..."
http://starbulletin.com/2003/07/13/e...exspecial.html

What is PACON? Chopped liver? : )

University of Hawaii's Dr. Narendra Saxena is the PACON Founding-President


Quoting from what is apparently a University of Hawaii website:

The Pacific Congress on Marine Science and Technology (PACON
International) is...a[n] international, nonprofit organization are active in
promoting scientific, technical, and environmentally sound use of ocean
resources in a developmentally sustainable way. While the organization is
Honolulu based, it concerns itself with the entire Asia-Pacific marine
environment, and its membership and sponsors are worldwide...PACON
International has a close tie to the School of Ocean and Earth Science and
Technology at the University of Hawaii. Its founder and former president,
Narendra Saxena is Professor and Director of the Pacific Mapping Program.
Saxena has seen PACON grow from an idea into its present stature of a unique
network with over 500 members from academia, industry, and governments
alike, and the sponsor of meetings and world congresses...[i]n Chiba, Japan,
July 21-26, 2002. President Narendra Saxena turned over the 2002-2004
presidency to Kenji Hotta, a professor of oceanic architecture and
engineering at Nihon University in Japan...University of Hawaii professors,
however, continue in leadership roles. Lorenz Magaard, professor of
oceanography and Executive Associate Director of the International Pacific
Research Center at the University of Hawaii at Manoa was chosen as
president-elect for 2002 to 2004, with his presidential term running from
2004 to 2006. Magaard is an excellent choice for continuing to lead PACON
and chart its future course. An active member of PACON from its inception,
he received the prestigious International Award of the Pacific Congress on
Marine Science and Technology for his significant contribution to the
advancement of ocean science and technology; he is also a Fellow of the
Marine Technology. Magaard is well known in Hawaii and to the marine science
community. As Chair of the Marine Council, he played a key role in planning
the UH School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology (SOEST), which joins
together the major university marine programs and brings in millions of
dollars from both national and international granting agencies...Selected as
Executive Director of PACON was John Wiltshire, who is with UH as Acting
Director of the National Undersea Research Center for Hawaii and the
Pacific. This center received much media attention recently with the
discovery of the Japanese mini-submarine. Wiltshire is also a Fellow of the
Marine Technology Society and was the co-chairman of the last Oceans 2001
meeting, which drew over 1,500 marine scientists and engineers to Hawaii. He
now intends to apply these successful strategies of Oceans 2001 to widening
participation in PACON, its meetings and congresses...Hawaii PACON sponsors
include the Hawaii Department of Business, Economic Development and Tourism,
and the University of Hawaii. Peter Englert, Chancellor of UH Manoa says
that PACON offers "an ideal means by which we can meet a key objective. to
become preeminent in our specialties in the region and globally."
http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/newsrel...ON_change.html

A few final suggestions for UH President Evan...

Since PACON is "active in promoting scientific, technical, and
environmentally sound use of ocean resources..." (see above)

Why not offer HAWAIIAN BUOYANT BIRTHS?

With the Pacific Ocean being so warm in the Hawaiian Islands, why not start
an ocean waterbirth program and offer it through the new medical school?

If PACON and the weather keep Pacific Ocean water clean around the Hawaiian
Islands - there may be lots of women from around the world that would love
to spend the last trimester of their pregnancy on the beach in Hawaii
waiting for their ocean waterbirth.

If the Pacific Ocean around Hawaii is not clean enough for humans to birth
in ("environmentally sound use") - THAT would be interesting news!

Women awaiting HAWAIIAN OCEAN BIRTHS would love to know that a brand new
Hawaiian medical school can help them if they need obstetric intervention.

Why not get some INSTANT global exposure by publicly stopping Hawaii's
medical school from teaching medical students to close birth canals up to
30%?

You could publicly tell Hawaiian MD-obstetricians that if they really must
force women to birth on their backs they should do so in the ocean where the
water buoys women - gets them off their sacra thereby allowing their birth
canals to open the "extra" up to 30%...

Just some ideas.

Thanks for reading,

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


Copied to:

Gaylyn Li, MD Interim Chair
LeighAnn Fratarelli, MD Units 6 & 7 Coordinator
Department of OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY & WOMEN'S HEALTH
John Burns School of Medicine
University of Hawaii
Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children
1319 Punahou St.
Honolulu, HI 96826
Ph: (808) 956-7457, x104/6-6202
Fax: (808) 955-2174
via

"Most first year residents finish the year having performed over 50 cesarean
sections as the primary surgeon."
http://hawaiimed.hawaii.edu/residenc...ms/obgyn5.html

Arrrrggghhh! This is obvious criminal negligence IF - as is the case all
over the world - women are forced into "failure to progress" on their
backs/butts - on their sacra - closing their birth canals up to 30%.

Cephalopelvic disproportion/failure to progress is often the reason given
for cesareans.

Sometimes cesarean section is necessary - but MDs are CAUSING cephalopelvic
disproportion/failure to progress - then "performing" cesarean sections
BEcause of cephalopelvic disproportion/failure to progress...

MDs are also forcing uteri to push with birth canals closed up to 30% - then
chemically whipping uteri to push VIOLENTLY - with oxytocin/Cytotec - with
birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

No wonder women beg for epidurals!

MDs also pull on babies' heads with their hands in most vaginal births -
with birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

In some institutions - in 26% of births (!) - MDs reach INSIDE the vagina -
with forceps/vacuum extractors - and pull babies out by their skulls -
through birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

Sometimes MDs pull so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords!

Any Univ. of Hawaii anthropologists reading?

Incredibly, MDs have blamed their bizarre birth-canal-closing behavior on
the West's loss of a fundamental human rest posture!

See Gardosi et al.'s 1989 Lancet "controlled trial of squatting" - where
nobody squatted...

See also: Chiro orthopedists and global UNREST - and babies...
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e... arthlink.net

Please help stop MDs from closing birth canals.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


PREGNANT WOMEN! It's EASY to open your birth canal an "extra" up to
30%!

Just roll onto your side as you push your baby out! PLEASE talk to your MD
about this NOW...

WARNING
WARNING
WARNING
WARNING: Some MDs will let women "try" side-lying and
other
"alternative" delivery positions - but they will move women back to
semisitting -
close their birth canals (!) at
the very worst possible moment (as the baby is coming out)...

See GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT - my invited poster presentation at a recent
obstetric congress co-sponsored by the American College of Obstetricians and
Gynecologists/ACOG. (NOTE: GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT is on the web: Search
"GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT
Paciornik"...)


***This Open Letter will be archived for global access within 24 hours.
Search http://groups.google.com for "Hawaii Ocean waterbirths? Also, PACON,
please forward this to Prof. Golding. Thanks."

Todd Gastaldo wrote:

Why not offer HAWAIIAN BUOYANT BIRTHS?

With the Pacific Ocean being so warm in the Hawaiian Islands, why not start
an ocean waterbirth program and offer it through the new medical school?

If PACON and the weather keep Pacific Ocean water clean around the Hawaiian
Islands - there may be lots of women from around the world that would love
to spend the last trimester of their pregnancy on the beach in Hawaii
waiting for their ocean waterbirth.


This is highly impractical - first, there are no 'private' beaches in Hawaii - giving birth in a public swimming area would
likely create quite a stir, and second, childbirth=blood=sharks. Tigers, great whites, and even reef sharks would likely be
drawn to inland areas on a regular basis. And then there's the cost - living for a trimester in Hawaii (cost of living in
extremely high) is probably way more than most would care to spend. I think the idea is a good one, I can only guess that ocean
water births were common in early Hawaiian culture, but in this day and age, I don't think it would work.

jmorgan

Todd
I want see some real data that proves this theory of side lying as opposed
to squatting or whatever other position you say is improper. I don't want to
see your cut and paste posts that jump around and basically say nothing at
all and have empty links to sites not found
SO SHOW ME THE DATA


"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
HAWAII'S OCEAN DAY (per PACON):

"The first Wednesday of June shall be known and designated as Ocean Day,
in
recognition of the very significant role the ocean plays in the lives of
Hawaii's people, as well as Hawaii's culture, history, and traditions...."
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/OceanDay.html

Have Hawaiians ever used their ocean for birth?

PHOTO: Black Sea in the Crimean area of the Ukraine, where women choose
to
birth their babies during the summer months.
http://www.waterbirth.org/faq.htm (video of this ocean birth is available)

Hawaii is warm all year 'round... See HAWAII OCEAN BIRTHS, discussed
below.



University of Hawaii President EVAN DOBELLE )
says,

"Medical miracle...This past fall, the University of Hawaii broke ground
on...its most ambitious capital project in decades, the John A. Burns
School
of Medicine...The walls are up; the foundation in place. It will be fully
operational in fall 2005."
Sunday, July 13, 2003
http://starbulletin.com/2003/07/13/e...exspecial.html

Of course, the John A Burns School of Medicine already exists...President
Evan is talking about a new building.

Hopefully soon after this email Hawaii's John A. Burns School of Medicine
will not teach medical students to close birth canals anymore (more on
this
below)...


PREGNANT WOMEN: MDs are closing birth canals up to 30%. It's EASY to
allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%!

Just roll onto your side as you push your baby out! BUT - see WARNING,
WARNING, WARNING at the very end of this post...



Dear PACON 2003 International Board of Directors
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/directors.htm

PLEASE FORWARD this email to 2002 PACON International Board of Directors
member PROF RAY GOLDING of Australia...
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/2002Board.html


OPEN LETTER (archived for global access***)


Prof. Golding,

Lynton Giles, DC, PhD mentioned you in regard to the establishment of
Multidisciplinary Spinal Pain Unit in a hospital in Townsville, North
Queensland, Australia.

Dr. Giles wrote:

"[T]hree gentlemen...had the foresight and courage to support the
establishment of the Unit...[including]...PROFESSOR RAY GOLDING, who was
Vice-Chancellor of James Cook University when the Unit was established
http://www.badback.com.au/previous_a...d.asp?artid=46
(emphasis
added)

Dr. Giles' Unit is no longer in a hospital.

Since MD-obstetricians are closing birth canals and routinely/gruesomely
manipulating most babies' spines at birth...

I think every hospital should have a Multidisciplinary Spinal Pain Unit...

See Most birth spinal manipulation contraindicated...

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....earthlink.net

The reason I'm writing is that I cc'd Dr. Giles but his
email address didn't work.

If you have Dr. Giles' current email, will you forward this post to him?

Thanks,

Dr. Gastaldo


NOTE: PACON 2003 Regional Symposium
(June 29-July 2, 2003) has been postponed to November 30-December 3,
2003 (to be held
at the Hotel Splendor Kaohsiung), subject to SARS clearance by the WHO
and the CDC.
http://www.hawaii.edu/pacon/

University of Hawaii President EVAN DOBELLE:

You wrote:

"The second breakthrough area will be the creation of a true global
presence
for the university..."
http://starbulletin.com/2003/07/13/e...exspecial.html

What is PACON? Chopped liver? : )

University of Hawaii's Dr. Narendra Saxena is the PACON Founding-President


Quoting from what is apparently a University of Hawaii website:

The Pacific Congress on Marine Science and Technology (PACON
International) is...a[n] international, nonprofit organization are active
in
promoting scientific, technical, and environmentally sound use of ocean
resources in a developmentally sustainable way. While the organization is
Honolulu based, it concerns itself with the entire Asia-Pacific marine
environment, and its membership and sponsors are worldwide...PACON
International has a close tie to the School of Ocean and Earth Science and
Technology at the University of Hawaii. Its founder and former president,
Narendra Saxena is Professor and Director of the Pacific Mapping Program.
Saxena has seen PACON grow from an idea into its present stature of a
unique[i]
network with over 500 members from academia, industry, and governments
alike, and the sponsor of meetings and world congresses...n Chiba,
Japan,
July 21-26, 2002. President Narendra Saxena turned over the 2002-2004
presidency to Kenji Hotta, a professor of oceanic architecture and
engineering at Nihon University in Japan...University of Hawaii
professors,
however, continue in leadership roles. Lorenz Magaard, professor of
oceanography and Executive Associate Director of the International Pacific
Research Center at the University of Hawaii at Manoa was chosen as
president-elect for 2002 to 2004, with his presidential term running from
2004 to 2006. Magaard is an excellent choice for continuing to lead PACON
and chart its future course. An active member of PACON from its inception,
he received the prestigious International Award of the Pacific Congress on
Marine Science and Technology for his significant contribution to the
advancement of ocean science and technology; he is also a Fellow of the
Marine Technology. Magaard is well known in Hawaii and to the marine
science
community. As Chair of the Marine Council, he played a key role in
planning
the UH School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology (SOEST), which
joins
together the major university marine programs and brings in millions of
dollars from both national and international granting agencies...Selected
as
Executive Director of PACON was John Wiltshire, who is with UH as Acting
Director of the National Undersea Research Center for Hawaii and the
Pacific. This center received much media attention recently with the
discovery of the Japanese mini-submarine. Wiltshire is also a Fellow of
the
Marine Technology Society and was the co-chairman of the last Oceans 2001
meeting, which drew over 1,500 marine scientists and engineers to Hawaii.
He
now intends to apply these successful strategies of Oceans 2001 to
widening
participation in PACON, its meetings and congresses...Hawaii PACON
sponsors
include the Hawaii Department of Business, Economic Development and
Tourism,
and the University of Hawaii. Peter Englert, Chancellor of UH Manoa says
that PACON offers "an ideal means by which we can meet a key objective. to
become preeminent in our specialties in the region and globally."
http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/newsrel...ON_change.html

A few final suggestions for UH President Evan...

Since PACON is "active in promoting scientific, technical, and
environmentally sound use of ocean resources..." (see above)

Why not offer HAWAIIAN BUOYANT BIRTHS?

With the Pacific Ocean being so warm in the Hawaiian Islands, why not
start
an ocean waterbirth program and offer it through the new medical school?

If PACON and the weather keep Pacific Ocean water clean around the
Hawaiian
Islands - there may be lots of women from around the world that would love
to spend the last trimester of their pregnancy on the beach in Hawaii
waiting for their ocean waterbirth.

If the Pacific Ocean around Hawaii is not clean enough for humans to birth
in ("environmentally sound use") - THAT would be interesting news!

Women awaiting HAWAIIAN OCEAN BIRTHS would love to know that a brand new
Hawaiian medical school can help them if they need obstetric intervention.

Why not get some INSTANT global exposure by publicly stopping Hawaii's
medical school from teaching medical students to close birth canals up to
30%?

You could publicly tell Hawaiian MD-obstetricians that if they really must
force women to birth on their backs they should do so in the ocean where
the
water buoys women - gets them off their sacra thereby allowing their birth
canals to open the "extra" up to 30%...

Just some ideas.

Thanks for reading,

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


Copied to:

Gaylyn Li, MD Interim Chair
LeighAnn Fratarelli, MD Units 6 & 7 Coordinator
Department of OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY & WOMEN'S HEALTH
John Burns School of Medicine
University of Hawaii
Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children
1319 Punahou St.
Honolulu, HI 96826
Ph: (808) 956-7457, x104/6-6202
Fax: (808) 955-2174
via

"Most first year residents finish the year having performed over 50
cesarean
sections as the primary surgeon."
http://hawaiimed.hawaii.edu/residenc...ms/obgyn5.html

Arrrrggghhh! This is obvious criminal negligence IF - as is the case all
over the world - women are forced into "failure to progress" on their
backs/butts - on their sacra - closing their birth canals up to 30%.

Cephalopelvic disproportion/failure to progress is often the reason given
for cesareans.

Sometimes cesarean section is necessary - but MDs are CAUSING
cephalopelvic
disproportion/failure to progress - then "performing" cesarean sections
BEcause of cephalopelvic disproportion/failure to progress...

MDs are also forcing uteri to push with birth canals closed up to 30% -
then
chemically whipping uteri to push VIOLENTLY - with oxytocin/Cytotec - with
birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

No wonder women beg for epidurals!

MDs also pull on babies' heads with their hands in most vaginal births -
with birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

In some institutions - in 26% of births (!) - MDs reach INSIDE the
vagina -
with forceps/vacuum extractors - and pull babies out by their skulls -
through birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

Sometimes MDs pull so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal
cords!

Any Univ. of Hawaii anthropologists reading?

Incredibly, MDs have blamed their bizarre birth-canal-closing behavior on
the West's loss of a fundamental human rest posture!

See Gardosi et al.'s 1989 Lancet "controlled trial of squatting" - where
nobody squatted...

See also: Chiro orthopedists and global UNREST - and babies...

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e... arthlink.net

Please help stop MDs from closing birth canals.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


PREGNANT WOMEN! It's EASY to open your birth canal an "extra" up to
30%!

Just roll onto your side as you push your baby out! PLEASE talk to your
MD
about this NOW...

WARNING
WARNING
WARNING
WARNING: Some MDs will let women "try" side-lying and
other
"alternative" delivery positions - but they will move women back to
semisitting -
close their birth canals (!) at
the very worst possible moment (as the baby is coming out)...

See GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT - my invited poster presentation at a recent
obstetric congress co-sponsored by the American College of Obstetricians
and
Gynecologists/ACOG. (NOTE: GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT is on the web: Search
"GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT
Paciornik"...)


***This Open Letter will be archived for global access within 24 hours.
Search http://groups.google.com for "Hawaii Ocean waterbirths? Also,
PACON,
please forward this to Prof. Golding. Thanks."