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How to mislead with numbers
The crime statistics are out. Of the safest cities in America, 8 are
in no-paddle states. Only 2 are in paddle states. Great news for no-spanks, right? Well, it depends on how you want to look at things. With a single exception, all of America's safest *cities* are relatively small and located near much larger cities with real life big city problems. The breakdown is as follows. Newton, Massachusetts is a college town near Boston. Clarkstown, New York is near New York City. A police force about half the size of Clarkstown patrols the streets of the Big Apple to keep crime at a tolerable level! Amherst, New York is near blue-collar Buffalo. Mission Viejo, Thousand Oaks, and Lake Forest California are near gang-ridden Los Angeles. The exception of Brick, New Jersey is a burg on the Garden State Parkway. Troy, Michigan is near the perennial murder capitol of Detroit. Round Rock, Texas is near Austin. Cary, North Carolina is near Raleigh. North Carolina and Texas are both paddle states. California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York are no-paddle states. The correlation between community safety and no-paddle in schools is fairly strong. Meanwhile the most unsafe cities are equally divided. Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; and Baltimore, Maryland are in no-paddle states. While St. Louis, Missouri; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; and Birmingham, Alabama are in paddle states. The statistical correlation between paddling in schools and lack of community safety is relatively weak. So, take your pick. This year, the argument can be made either way, depending on which dataset you choose to use. Then, that is often the nature of behavior science research. |
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How to mislead with numbers
According to the logic of the anti-spankin zealotS, a square peg will fit into a round hole. ;-) Doan On 21 Nov 2005, Opinions wrote: The crime statistics are out. Of the safest cities in America, 8 are in no-paddle states. Only 2 are in paddle states. Great news for no-spanks, right? Well, it depends on how you want to look at things. With a single exception, all of America's safest *cities* are relatively small and located near much larger cities with real life big city problems. The breakdown is as follows. Newton, Massachusetts is a college town near Boston. Clarkstown, New York is near New York City. A police force about half the size of Clarkstown patrols the streets of the Big Apple to keep crime at a tolerable level! Amherst, New York is near blue-collar Buffalo. Mission Viejo, Thousand Oaks, and Lake Forest California are near gang-ridden Los Angeles. The exception of Brick, New Jersey is a burg on the Garden State Parkway. Troy, Michigan is near the perennial murder capitol of Detroit. Round Rock, Texas is near Austin. Cary, North Carolina is near Raleigh. North Carolina and Texas are both paddle states. California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York are no-paddle states. The correlation between community safety and no-paddle in schools is fairly strong. Meanwhile the most unsafe cities are equally divided. Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; and Baltimore, Maryland are in no-paddle states. While St. Louis, Missouri; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; and Birmingham, Alabama are in paddle states. The statistical correlation between paddling in schools and lack of community safety is relatively weak. So, take your pick. This year, the argument can be made either way, depending on which dataset you choose to use. Then, that is often the nature of behavior science research. |
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How to mislead with numbers
If no-spanks were mechanics, they'd spin a 1/2-13 nut on a 1/4-20 bolt
and pronounce the mating a perfect fit. Doan wrote: According to the logic of the anti-spankin zealotS, a square peg will fit into a round hole. ;-) Doan On 21 Nov 2005, Opinions wrote: The crime statistics are out. Of the safest cities in America, 8 are in no-paddle states. Only 2 are in paddle states. Great news for no-spanks, right? Well, it depends on how you want to look at things. With a single exception, all of America's safest *cities* are relatively small and located near much larger cities with real life big city problems. The breakdown is as follows. Newton, Massachusetts is a college town near Boston. Clarkstown, New York is near New York City. A police force about half the size of Clarkstown patrols the streets of the Big Apple to keep crime at a tolerable level! Amherst, New York is near blue-collar Buffalo. Mission Viejo, Thousand Oaks, and Lake Forest California are near gang-ridden Los Angeles. The exception of Brick, New Jersey is a burg on the Garden State Parkway. Troy, Michigan is near the perennial murder capitol of Detroit. Round Rock, Texas is near Austin. Cary, North Carolina is near Raleigh. North Carolina and Texas are both paddle states. California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York are no-paddle states. The correlation between community safety and no-paddle in schools is fairly strong. Meanwhile the most unsafe cities are equally divided. Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; and Baltimore, Maryland are in no-paddle states. While St. Louis, Missouri; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; and Birmingham, Alabama are in paddle states. The statistical correlation between paddling in schools and lack of community safety is relatively weak. So, take your pick. This year, the argument can be made either way, depending on which dataset you choose to use. Then, that is often the nature of behavior science research. |
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How to mislead with numbers
Is this research, or simply a crime statistics report? If this was
actual research, there would be controlled variables, weighted analysis, and many more statistical methodologies that would control for what you discuss below. But then, you neither understand or discuss research. You dismiss actual research, and then post nothing more than statistics. Good grief, opinnions. Ever heard that the earth is flat? LaVonne Opinions wrote: The crime statistics are out. Of the safest cities in America, 8 are in no-paddle states. Only 2 are in paddle states. Great news for no-spanks, right? Well, it depends on how you want to look at things. With a single exception, all of America's safest *cities* are relatively small and located near much larger cities with real life big city problems. The breakdown is as follows. Newton, Massachusetts is a college town near Boston. Clarkstown, New York is near New York City. A police force about half the size of Clarkstown patrols the streets of the Big Apple to keep crime at a tolerable level! Amherst, New York is near blue-collar Buffalo. Mission Viejo, Thousand Oaks, and Lake Forest California are near gang-ridden Los Angeles. The exception of Brick, New Jersey is a burg on the Garden State Parkway. Troy, Michigan is near the perennial murder capitol of Detroit. Round Rock, Texas is near Austin. Cary, North Carolina is near Raleigh. North Carolina and Texas are both paddle states. California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York are no-paddle states. The correlation between community safety and no-paddle in schools is fairly strong. Meanwhile the most unsafe cities are equally divided. Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; and Baltimore, Maryland are in no-paddle states. While St. Louis, Missouri; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; and Birmingham, Alabama are in paddle states. The statistical correlation between paddling in schools and lack of community safety is relatively weak. So, take your pick. This year, the argument can be made either way, depending on which dataset you choose to use. Then, that is often the nature of behavior science research. |
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How to write ridiculous posts! was How to mislead with numbers
If pro-spanks were mechanics they would have training and experience in
mechanics. If anit-spankers were mechanics, they would have training and experience in mechanics. I suspect there are mechanics that represent both positions. And your4 point is....ridiculous???? LaVonne Opinions wrote: If no-spanks were mechanics, they'd spin a 1/2-13 nut on a 1/4-20 bolt and pronounce the mating a perfect fit. Doan wrote: According to the logic of the anti-spankin zealotS, a square peg will fit into a round hole. ;-) Doan On 21 Nov 2005, Opinions wrote: The crime statistics are out. Of the safest cities in America, 8 are in no-paddle states. Only 2 are in paddle states. Great news for no-spanks, right? Well, it depends on how you want to look at things. With a single exception, all of America's safest *cities* are relatively small and located near much larger cities with real life big city problems. The breakdown is as follows. Newton, Massachusetts is a college town near Boston. Clarkstown, New York is near New York City. A police force about half the size of Clarkstown patrols the streets of the Big Apple to keep crime at a tolerable level! Amherst, New York is near blue-collar Buffalo. Mission Viejo, Thousand Oaks, and Lake Forest California are near gang-ridden Los Angeles. The exception of Brick, New Jersey is a burg on the Garden State Parkway. Troy, Michigan is near the perennial murder capitol of Detroit. Round Rock, Texas is near Austin. Cary, North Carolina is near Raleigh. North Carolina and Texas are both paddle states. California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York are no-paddle states. The correlation between community safety and no-paddle in schools is fairly strong. Meanwhile the most unsafe cities are equally divided. Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; and Baltimore, Maryland are in no-paddle states. While St. Louis, Missouri; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; and Birmingham, Alabama are in paddle states. The statistical correlation between paddling in schools and lack of community safety is relatively weak. So, take your pick. This year, the argument can be made either way, depending on which dataset you choose to use. Then, that is often the nature of behavior science research. |
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How to mislead with numbers
Opinions wrote: The crime statistics are out. Of the safest cities in America, 8 are in no-paddle states. Only 2 are in paddle states. Great news for no-spanks, right? Well, it depends on how you want to look at things. With a single exception, all of America's safest *cities* are relatively small and located near much larger cities with real life big city problems. The breakdown is as follows. Newton, Massachusetts is a college town near Boston. Clarkstown, New York is near New York City. A police force about half the size of Clarkstown patrols the streets of the Big Apple to keep crime at a tolerable level! Amherst, New York is near blue-collar Buffalo. Mission Viejo, Thousand Oaks, and Lake Forest California are near gang-ridden Los Angeles. The exception of Brick, New Jersey is a burg on the Garden State Parkway. Troy, Michigan is near the perennial murder capitol of Detroit. Round Rock, Texas is near Austin. Cary, North Carolina is near Raleigh. North Carolina and Texas are both paddle states. California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York are no-paddle states. The correlation between community safety and no-paddle in schools is fairly strong. Yes, we know that. Meanwhile the most unsafe cities are equally divided. Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; and Baltimore, Maryland are in no-paddle states. While St. Louis, Missouri; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; and Birmingham, Alabama are in paddle states. The statistical correlation between paddling in schools and lack of community safety is relatively weak. So you would then claim only similar cities or towns in size should be comparied. And feel it's significant to claim the cities in the paddling states, that are comparable in size would show the same low crime rates? So, take your pick. This year, the argument can be made either way, depending on which dataset you choose to use. Then, that is often the nature of behavior science research. No, it would not go either way. Both sets of data provided would show a correlation to non-paddling states to be safest given the even dividing of most unsafe cities between paddling and non-paddling states. Where did you get your education for statistical analysis? What you conveniently leave out is a comparison of how the most unsafe cities in one set of states compares to the most unsafe in the other cities, one where paddling is allowed and the other not. In other words, as the audience used to say on the Tonight Show, "HOW UNSAFE WERE THEY?" You do have those figures, right? For they are very significant. The critical point being "rates" of violent crime and more especially emergency room records for intake of patients that suffered violent attacks. In fact the latter is the best indicator of the true scope of violence in any region. Nice try, Observer, but no sale. Academics are higher in no-paddle states as well. Child abuse is less. College entries are higher. Across the board, even per capita income, one is better of in a non-paddling state. And in time, as you'll come to find out, a total ban on spanking will produce the same kind of results. 0:- |
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