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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
Robert wrote:
"JanD" wrote in message news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22... "Robert" wrote in message . .. "JanD" wrote in message news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72... You snipped his background, Robert. Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing. Robert, In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST! You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license. You don't need a license in academic research because you are not responsible to anybodies health. Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of licensure by any given state. Furthermore, he is NOT a *forensic pathologist*. What is a forensic pathologist? Forensic pathology is a specialized area of pathology. The forensic pathologist performs autopsies to determine the cause and manner of death in situations falling under the jurisdiction of the local medical examiner or coroner. These situations include, however, are not limited to violent deaths such as homicides, accidents, and suicides. Other categories are suspicious deaths, sudden and expected deaths, deaths in children and infants, prisoners, persons under the care of an institution, situations where illicit drugs or alcohol may have contributed to the death, deaths occurring during or in close proximity to a surgical procedure, deaths in individuals not under the care of a physician or when the private physician is unable or unwilling to certify the death certificate, and deaths when there is suspicion of a public health threat. Many persons fail to realize that approximately half of the deaths examined by the forensic pathologist are natural deaths occurring in the absence of injury. The forensic pathologist is also an expert witness in the court of law, testifying in a variety of civil and criminal cases involving death or injury. http://www.forensiconline.com/generallink.htm#a9 A *FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST* is uniquely qualified to render an opinion on the cause of death, moreso than any other discipline in pathology. You may also want to see the nature of the training of the forensic pathologist and compare it to al-Bayati's. There is NO comparison. For an accurate analysis of the al-Bayati report, read: http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-conte...t_on_Eliza.pdf A comment, from a forensic pathologist and deputy coroner: I read this post and it was the first time I've heard about Dr. Al-Bayati. I find it interesting that no-one could find an actual pathologist (that is an MD who has taken specialty training in the discipline of pathology) to make the claim that Eliza Jane died of something other than AIDS. She had an AIDS-defining illness, and I don't know of any competent pathologist (and I'm one myself) who wouldn't have made that diagnosis. Dr. Al-Bayati may teach and work in the department of pathology, but he's not qualified (or trained) to make those diagnoses. Alas, I think the denialists are working from a predetermined, irrational viewpoint and evidence is not going to change this. But you gotta keep telling the truth. Keep it up. http://oracknows.blogspot.com/2005/1....html#comments The child had an "AIDS-defining illness" which means that ONLY AIDS can cause it. Nothing else. However, the anti-medicine people will continue to find ways to discredit this. a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration: 36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months (7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat. Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months (07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18 months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months (1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function: 12 months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18 months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987); Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote: Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote: john wrote: "Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" wrote in message Yeah, yeah. Pretty much Duesberg zombism. Who are they going to blame for this, if not antibiotics and the medical profession? It would have to be themselves. Yeah, for trusting allopathic medicine But that's the point. They don't trust allopathic medicine. So they should stick to their guns, and not see doctors when they become ill. Which Maggiore is bound to, eventually. But you know what will happen instead. Just as in this case, she'll get pneumcystis pneumonia and show up at the hospital, blue and asking for help. THEN her husband will blame ANY antibiotic she is given, for why she doesn't get better, or dies. Better that these people had the courage of their convictions and stayed the hell home. Heath nuts who blame medicine for disease NEED to stay home, so they can feel properly stupid, dying of nothing. Instead they wus-out, come to the medical profession in extremis, and finally blame the treatment. That's the entire story of AIDS deniers. They all die, but they all pretend it's the doctors that are to blame. Maggiore and her husband are precisely what you describe. In a way, I hope that we do see the bird flu jump species and a good vaccine is developed for it. Then, those anti-vacs will stick to their guns and not get vaccinations, and prove Darwin is correct. COMMENT: This has very nearly happened already, as the AIDS drugs got pretty good when the protease inhibitors came out, and the deniers then either had to take the pills and admit they had a problem, or else die. So we've heard a lot less in the last decade from those actually INFECTED with HIV. If they weren't busy taking HAART they were busy dying, and either way they weren't doing much activism. The AIDS-deniers have been suspiciously HIV-negative, of late. Here's an exception. And of course, a death. This 3 year-old girl who Maggiore was claiming was full of "vibrant life" turns out to be a sick little child who spent the last half of her life weighing below the 3rd percentile of her peers. She wasn't doing well. Somehow, everybody forgot to ask why. Where they came up with this doofus Egyptian vet toxicologist whose specialty is vanadium poisoning and organophosphates, and thinks he can speak to what happened in a pediatric human infectious death, is beyond me. But there he is, opining about parvovirus B19, as though he'd actually seen and treated a case in a real child. Which I'm sure he hasn't. I have. Kids with "fifth disease" have a rash. They don't come in so hypoxic that have a respiratory arrest and die. They don't have pneumonia (unless it's caused by yet a second bug). They may be anemic (and the Maggiore child's anemia was blamed on this) but the anemia doesn't look like AIDS, where there lymphocytes are selectively targetted and in far worse condition than the red cells. Nor is B19 anemia a microcytic anemia, which is the kind the Maggiore child had. A 3 year-old who presents with fever and no lung obstruction and an X-ray showing minor infiltrates, but hypoxia all out of proportion to the X-ray, is a candidate for Pneumocystis pneumonia. If that organism with inflammatory casts is actually found in the lungs on autopsy, then that makes the diagnosis. Needless to say, amoxicillin doesn't magically cause Pneumocystis fungi to show up in your lungs. And in a 3 year-old that disease (pneumocystis pneumonia without other reason for it) is AIDS-defining. Finding lymphocytopenia and HIV viral proteins in the brain is merely icing on the cake, with a cherry on top. If her mother is HIV-positive you don't have to be Einstein to figure out how she got it. And apparently some of these people are a long way from Einstein. al-Bayati's report is decimated he http://oracknows.blogspot.com/2005/1....html#comments and http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-conte...t_on_Eliza.pdf with the latter being a medical doctor, trained in England, who has a PhD on an AIDS related issue. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
David Rind wrote:
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote: A 3 year-old who presents with fever and no lung obstruction and an X-ray showing minor infiltrates, but hypoxia all out of proportion to the X-ray, is a candidate for Pneumocystis pneumonia. If that organism with inflammatory casts is actually found in the lungs on autopsy, then that makes the diagnosis. Needless to say, amoxicillin doesn't magically cause Pneumocystis fungi to show up in your lungs. And in a 3 year-old that disease (pneumocystis pneumonia without other reason for it) is AIDS-defining. Finding lymphocytopenia and HIV viral proteins in the brain is merely icing on the cake, with a cherry on top. If her mother is HIV-positive you don't have to be Einstein to figure out how she got it. And apparently some of these people are a long way from Einstein. SBH Last I recall (from sci.med a few months ago) what we knew was that she'd died suddenly, and there was a discussion here that this didn't sound entirely consistent with PCP. Is the above information about the PMH and autopsy results posted somewhere? http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-conte...t_on_Eliza.pdf You can also find al-Bayati's report which Dr. Bennett assumed was accurate in his above analysis. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
JanD wrote:
"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" wrote Mark Probert wrote: Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote: john wrote: "Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" wrote in message Yeah, yeah. Pretty much Duesberg zombism. Who are they going to blame for this, if not antibiotics and the medical profession? It would have to be themselves. Yeah, for trusting allopathic medicine But that's the point. They don't trust allopathic medicine. So they should stick to their guns, and not see doctors when they become ill. Which Maggiore is bound to, eventually. But you know what will happen instead. Just as in this case, she'll get pneumcystis pneumonia and show up at the hospital, blue and asking for help. THEN her husband will blame ANY antibiotic she is given, for why she doesn't get better, or dies. Better that these people had the courage of their convictions and stayed the hell home. Heath nuts who blame medicine for disease NEED to stay home, so they can feel properly stupid, dying of nothing. Instead they wus-out, come to the medical profession in extremis, and finally blame the treatment. That's the entire story of AIDS deniers. They all die, but they all pretend it's the doctors that are to blame. Maggiore and her husband are precisely what you describe. In a way, I hope that we do see the bird flu jump species and a good vaccine is developed for it. Then, those anti-vacs will stick to their guns and not get vaccinations, and prove Darwin is correct. COMMENT: This has very nearly happened already, as the AIDS drugs got pretty good when the protease inhibitors came out, and the deniers then either had to take the pills and admit they had a problem, or else die. So we've heard a lot less in the last decade from those actually INFECTED with HIV. If they weren't busy taking HAART they were busy dying, and either way they weren't doing much activism. The AIDS-deniers have been suspiciously HIV-negative, of late. Here's an exception. And of course, a death. This 3 year-old girl who Maggiore was claiming was full of "vibrant life" turns out to be a sick little child who spent the last half of her life weighing below the 3rd percentile of her peers. She wasn't doing well. Somehow, everybody forgot to ask why. Where they came up with this doofus Egyptian vet toxicologist Yes, the doofus is a toxicologist, not a medical pathologist and most certainly not a forensic pathologist, the specialty which provides the most comprehenisve training to determine cause, manner and mechanism of death. However, because Jan refuses to get a clue, she reposts this bull**** a hundred times as if it means something to rebut my point. a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: *****United States Environmental Protection Agency.***** Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI, ******toxicologist, and pathologist******. c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant. Agency:****** United States Environmental Protection Agency;***** Duration: 36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI,***** toxicologist, and pathologist.**** d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol Mixtures. ****Agency: California Air Resources Board*****. Duration: 18 months (7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, *****toxicologist, and pathologist.**** e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat. *****Agency: University of California, Riverside.****** Duration: 12 months (07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, *****toxicologist, and pathologist*****. f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People. *****Agency: California Air Resources Board*****; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18 months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator,*** toxicologist, and pathologist.***** g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. *****Agency: California Air Resources Board;***** Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months (1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, ****toxicologist, and pathologist*****. h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. ****Agency: Toxic Substance Research and Teaching Program, University of California,***** Davis. Function: 12 months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, ****toxicologist, and pathologist*****. i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels. ****Agency: California Air Resources Board;***** Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18 months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, ****toxicologist, and pathologist****. j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents. *****Agency: United States Department of Energy*****. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987); Functions: Co-PI, *****toxicologist, and pathologist****. k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in Rat, Dog, and Primate. ****Agency: United States Department of Energy*****. Duration: 72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, *****toxicologist, and pathologist*****. l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in Small Rodents. *****Agency: United States Environmental Protection**** Agency. Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator, ****toxicologist, and pathologist.**** Dr. Al-Bayati holds ****U.S. Patent number *****5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the functions of tissues in both ***biomedical and environmental applications***. Your *doofus* name calling does NOT apply. I have. Kids with "fifth disease" have a rash. They don't come in so hypoxic that have a respiratory arrest and die. They don't have pneumonia (unless it's caused by yet a second bug). They may be anemic (and the Maggiore child's anemia was blamed on this) but the anemia doesn't look like AIDS, where there lymphocytes are selectively targetted and in far worse condition than the red cells. Nor is B19 anemia a microcytic anemia, which is the kind the Maggiore child had. A 3 year-old who presents with fever and no lung obstruction and an X-ray showing minor infiltrates, but hypoxia all out of proportion to the X-ray, is a candidate for Pneumocystis pneumonia. If that organism with inflammatory casts is actually found in the lungs on autopsy, then that makes the diagnosis. Needless to say, amoxicillin doesn't magically cause Pneumocystis fungi to show up in your lungs. And in a 3 year-old that disease (pneumocystis pneumonia without other reason for it) is AIDS-defining. Finding lymphocytopenia and HIV viral proteins in the brain is merely icing on the cake, with a cherry on top. If her mother is HIV-positive you don't have to be Einstein to figure out how she got it. And apparently some of these people are a long way from Einstein. SBH |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
"Robert" wrote in message ... "JanD" wrote in message news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22... "Robert" wrote in message ... "JanD" wrote in message news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72... You snipped his background, Robert. Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing. Robert, In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST! You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license. You don't need a license in academic research because you are not responsible to anybodies health. Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of licensure by any given state. Read this S L O W L Y. H e w a s b o t h a t o x i c o l o g o i s t A N D A P A T H O L O G I S T a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration: 36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months (7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat. Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months (07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18 months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months (1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function: 12 months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18 months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987); Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Robert wrote: "JanD" wrote in message news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22... "Robert" wrote in message .. . "JanD" wrote in message news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72... You snipped his background, Robert. Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing. Robert, In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST! You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license. You don't need a license in academic research because you are not responsible to anybodies health. Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of licensure by any given state. [snip] Furthermore, he is NOT a disbarred attorney! http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-conte...t_on_Eliza.pdf [snippage of http://oracknows.howtolie for Mark Probert] a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration: 36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months (7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat. Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months (07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18 months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months (1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function: 12 months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18 months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987); Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
JanD wrote: "Robert" wrote in message ... "JanD" wrote in message news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22... "Robert" wrote in message ... "JanD" wrote in message news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72... You snipped his background, Robert. Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing. Robert, In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST! You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license. You don't need a license in academic research because you are not responsible to anybodies health. Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of licensure by any given state. Read this S L O W L Y. H e w a s b o t h a t o x i c o l o g o i s t A N D A P A T H O L O G I S T There is no way Jan, unable to read and comprehend English, could have been allowed to graduate high school. Surely. a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration: 36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months (7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat. Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months (07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18 months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months (1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function: 12 months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18 months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987); Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
"Robert" wrote in message ... "JanD" wrote in message news:VY9lf.605554$_o.9254@attbi_s71... Just ask him what he has a license in and tell him to stop clowning around pretending he is an expert in something he knows very little about. Now Robert is side tracked on licensed. While Probert is forensiced And Harris is doofused LOL, what a gang! |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
JanD wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Robert wrote: "JanD" wrote in message news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22... "Robert" wrote in message . .. "JanD" wrote in message news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72... You snipped his background, Robert. Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing. Robert, In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST! You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license. You don't need a license in academic research because you are not responsible to anybodies health. Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of licensure by any given state. [snip] Furthermore, he is NOT a disbarred attorney! http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-conte...t_on_Eliza.pdf [snippage of http://oracknows.howtolie for Mark Probert] Jan, try to discuss the points I raised. al-Bayati is NOT a forensic pathologist, which is the one specialty trained to render opinions on cause, manner and mechanism of death. Restored: Furthermore, he is NOT a *forensic pathologist*. What is a forensic pathologist? Forensic pathology is a specialized area of pathology. The forensic pathologist performs autopsies to determine the cause and manner of death in situations falling under the jurisdiction of the local medical examiner or coroner. These situations include, however, are not limited to violent deaths such as homicides, accidents, and suicides. Other categories are suspicious deaths, sudden and expected deaths, deaths in children and infants, prisoners, persons under the care of an institution, situations where illicit drugs or alcohol may have contributed to the death, deaths occurring during or in close proximity to a surgical procedure, deaths in individuals not under the care of a physician or when the private physician is unable or unwilling to certify the death certificate, and deaths when there is suspicion of a public health threat. Many persons fail to realize that approximately half of the deaths examined by the forensic pathologist are natural deaths occurring in the absence of injury. The forensic pathologist is also an expert witness in the court of law, testifying in a variety of civil and criminal cases involving death or injury. http://www.forensiconline.com/generallink.htm#a9 A *FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST* is uniquely qualified to render an opinion on the cause of death, moreso than any other discipline in pathology. You may also want to see the nature of the training of the forensic pathologist and compare it to al-Bayati's. There is NO comparison. For an accurate analysis of the al-Bayati report, read: http://catallarchy.net/blog/wp-conte...t_on_Eliza.pdf A comment, from a forensic pathologist and deputy coroner: I read this post and it was the first time I've heard about Dr. Al-Bayati. I find it interesting that no-one could find an actual pathologist (that is an MD who has taken specialty training in the discipline of pathology) to make the claim that Eliza Jane died of something other than AIDS. She had an AIDS-defining illness, and I don't know of any competent pathologist (and I'm one myself) who wouldn't have made that diagnosis. Dr. Al-Bayati may teach and work in the department of pathology, but he's not qualified (or trained) to make those diagnoses. Alas, I think the denialists are working from a predetermined, irrational viewpoint and evidence is not going to change this. But you gotta keep telling the truth. Keep it up. http://oracknows.blogspot.com/2005/1....html#comments The child had an "AIDS-defining illness" which means that ONLY AIDS can cause it. Nothing else. However, the anti-medicine people will continue to find ways to discredit this. |
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Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?
JanD wrote:
"Robert" wrote in message ... "JanD" wrote in message news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22... "Robert" wrote in message .. . "JanD" wrote in message news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72... You snipped his background, Robert. Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing. Robert, In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST! You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license. You don't need a license in academic research because you are not responsible to anybodies health. Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of licensure by any given state. Read this S L O W L Y. H e w a s b o t h a t o x i c o l o g o i s t A N D A P A T H O L O G I S T OK. and read this really slowly: H-e i-s N-O-T a F-O-R-E-N-S-I-C P-A-T-H-O-LO-G-I-S-T which is the specialty that is trained specifically to render opinions on manner, mechanism and cause of death. al-Bayati never treated a human patient, and there is NO evidence that he ever even attended an autopsy. a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration: 36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months (7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat. Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months (07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18 months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months (1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function: 12 months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18 months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987); Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist. k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency. Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and pathologist. Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications. |
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