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Old December 8th 08, 11:13 PM posted to misc.kids
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Back at DD1's 2-year checkup, I had asked her ped about her speech as I
found it to be a little under par when compared to the other kids around
her. Between direct friends (and a cousin) of mine and a couple friends of
friends that DD1 is around, there's a total of 3 boys and 3 girls her age
(between 4 weeks older than DD1 and 5 weeks younger they ALL are) I just
found all the other kids at that point were actually talking a lot better
than she was.

Ped gave a referral to a speech/language/hearing specialist at the hospital.
We went shortly after she turned 2.
They did a follow up 6 months later, around Christmas last year, and at that
point I had decided to wait. After talking around, there was a few people
that said that theirs at that age didn't talk much (for a variety of
reasons) but by 3 they had picked it up and had no issues. My oldest
younger brother did not really say much at all until he was about 3 and was
just fine from then on.
DD1 had her 3d birthday and I found her speech was really not much better.
She was not really even close to being on par with the others her age. Yes,
I know you can't really compare one child with another, but you sort of can
to get an idea.

So, back in September, a month or so after her 3d birthday, we went for
another assessment at the hospital. The report came back that her hearing
is excellent, she completely understands everything, even fairly complex,
multi-part directions but just does not talk well at all.

The "diagnosis" says she has a "severe phonological delay", "expressive
language delay" and "receptive language possibly within average limits" Her
speech is "difficult to understand" and it was noted that although she has
perfect teeth (until last weekend when she wiped out and broke her teeth -
which she is scheduled to have repaired at the pediatric dental place right
after the new year) she does have a significant overbite (which runs in the
family) - this overbite "likely contributes to her open mouth postures and
labio-dental productions of 'm, p, b'"
It also says something about the average mean length of utterance (how many
words per comment) is 3.47 words, yet DD's is an average of 1.58 words - so
3 standard deviations below the average for her age.

She understands VERY well, so she's not slow or stupid or anything like
that, she just can't seem to communicate very well at all. She's also not
at all anywhere close to potty training - and I was told that although not
always, sometimes with some sort of language/communication problem, these
children might be more of a challenge with potty training (but it also does
happen with the average child with no delays)

I had been looking at getting her into a program that deals specifically
with preschoolers with various levels of delays like this. There's one I'd
really like her to get into for September, when she will be old enough to be
eligible for the program, but the speech lady actually called me today to
give me some contacts for a few programs for right now. I've managed to
leave a message for 2/3 of the numbers I was given - one of the contact
numbers seems to not be working or something.

Has anyone had to deal with something like this? Obviously programs
available where I am most likely won't be the same as where other people
are, but there seems to be a few different options around here, and I
haven't really heard much about them... And still know very little about
them as I had just left messages for someone to call me back. I don't think
these kinds of programs would hurt, but do they benefit? Has anyone had any
experience with various early childhood/preschool programs for their little
ones that might have or had similar issues DD1 seems to have?


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Old December 9th 08, 12:00 AM posted to misc.kids
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Default DD1 and her speech

Kat wrote:

Has anyone had to deal with something like this? Obviously programs
available where I am most likely won't be the same as where other people
are, but there seems to be a few different options around here, and I
haven't really heard much about them... And still know very little about
them as I had just left messages for someone to call me back. I don't think
these kinds of programs would hurt, but do they benefit? Has anyone had any
experience with various early childhood/preschool programs for their little
ones that might have or had similar issues DD1 seems to have?


Hey.

Yes, Sam has had a significant speech delay. We're doing better, but he
only started talking after about 3 months of ergotherapy...

It's really late here so I'll try to make it short:

Does she eat normally, i.e. does she have trouble chewing hard things
like meat that's not cut up really small, does she suck things for a
long time (fruit, sweets you usually chew and then swallow,...) Has
anyone checked whether she's doing ok in regards to muscle tone in her
mouth/face and her motor abilities (I have no clue if this makes sense
I'm trying to translate this as best as I can), i.e. has she got
problems moving her tongue (lick the corners of her mouth in a
coordinated manner, not just all around), can she blow things in a
somewhat coordinated manner (blow out a candle, blow away a cotton ball)
can she spit (spit out a cherry stone, spit when she rinses her mouth
after brushing her teeth,...)
Those are things Sam had/has problems with.

If you can get her into a program designed for children with speech
delays, do it! It will probably help and if you can see it's not working
(i.e. she gets aggressive or starts withdrawing in any kind of way and
it's not in a way that you'd expect) you can still pull her out again
without any harm done.
I'd think about speech therapy, too. Nothing major, just a nudge to get
her started. For a lot of kids it doesn't take a lot of therapy to get
the ball rolling. If there's just certain sounds she has problems
forming a speech therapist will be able to help her figure out how to
move her mouth to produce those sounds better...

Anyway, I really need to go to bed, it's midnight and if I'm lucky I'll
get 7 hours of sleep (hahahahaha, yeah, right)

Ask any questions and I'll try to answer!

Take care!
Nicole
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Old December 10th 08, 03:55 PM posted to misc.kids
Nikki
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Default DD1 and her speech

Kat wrote:

Has anyone had to deal with something like this? Obviously programs
available where I am most likely won't be the same as where other people
are, but there seems to be a few different options around here, and I
haven't really heard much about them... And still know very little about
them as I had just left messages for someone to call me back. I don't think
these kinds of programs would hurt, but do they benefit? Has anyone had any
experience with various early childhood/preschool programs for their little
ones that might have or had similar issues DD1 seems to have?



I don't know anything about the various programs but I am a huge
proponent of speech therapy when needed. My oldest son had a
significant language delay and both my little boys are in speech therapy
right now (2.5yo). One is more delayed then the other. There are so
many reasons why a kid might have a language delay that it is hard to
compare even the delayed kids. Early intervention makes a big
difference. I'd get any and all services that are available to you.

--

Nikki, mama to 4 boys
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Old December 10th 08, 04:08 PM posted to misc.kids
Kat
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Default DD1 and her speech


"NL" wrote in message
...
Kat wrote:

Has anyone had to deal with something like this? Obviously programs
available where I am most likely won't be the same as where other people
are, but there seems to be a few different options around here, and I
haven't really heard much about them... And still know very little about
them as I had just left messages for someone to call me back. I don't
think
these kinds of programs would hurt, but do they benefit? Has anyone had
any
experience with various early childhood/preschool programs for their
little
ones that might have or had similar issues DD1 seems to have?


Hey.

Yes, Sam has had a significant speech delay. We're doing better, but he
only started talking after about 3 months of ergotherapy...

It's really late here so I'll try to make it short:

Does she eat normally, i.e. does she have trouble chewing hard things
like meat that's not cut up really small, does she suck things for a
long time (fruit, sweets you usually chew and then swallow,...) Has
anyone checked whether she's doing ok in regards to muscle tone in her
mouth/face and her motor abilities (I have no clue if this makes sense
I'm trying to translate this as best as I can), i.e. has she got
problems moving her tongue (lick the corners of her mouth in a
coordinated manner, not just all around), can she blow things in a
somewhat coordinated manner (blow out a candle, blow away a cotton ball)
can she spit (spit out a cherry stone, spit when she rinses her mouth
after brushing her teeth,...)
Those are things Sam had/has problems with.


Hm... I don't *think* she has these problems... I know she can blow out
candles... She's always blowing out candles I have lit around the house, and
she has no problem with birthday candles and such. She can blow bubbles
(like the soapy bubbles with the sticks in the containers) and she
definitely does spit... She went through a temper tantrum phase of falling
face down on the floor and then spitting - if that counts LOL
She can spit, but she tends to swallow tooth paste (so she gets even less
than the average child her age, I'm sure lol)
I don't think she sucks things, but I've never really noticed, actually.
She does have that known significant overbite, but other than that, I don't
think she has other problems. I don't think she's tongue tied either - I'm
sure this would have been found by now, but I know as an infant, she/we had
problems with breastfeeding.

If you can get her into a program designed for children with speech
delays, do it! It will probably help and if you can see it's not working
(i.e. she gets aggressive or starts withdrawing in any kind of way and
it's not in a way that you'd expect) you can still pull her out again
without any harm done.


Well, I was given some contacts for a few different programs to look into.
The speech pathologist lady we had seen called to give me some info and I
called around.
I believe she is eligible for one program, and we're on the waiting list for
that - I was told there's about 8-9 kids in their program, which normally
runs from Sept-June, but was told that sometimes families drop out in the
new year after Christmas, or sometimes during the year. They then take new
children in the program as spots become available, and I was told there's
about 10 of us on the wait list.
Another one I had called has some sort of "puff funding" (or something like
that) and to be eligible, you must either have 2 severe or moderate
problems - DD1 has one for sure, the other 2 issues noted on the assessment
didn't say mild, moderate or severe so I don't know. The other option to
get into this one program is to be rich and, I heard from a friend, would
cost about $2000 (she had looked into it but did not have the money) and the
rich people with money seem to get priority over the poor with no money, and
some of the kids - normally the ones with only a slight/mild problem/delay
are the ones with the money and get in first. Of course it would work like
that.

I'd think about speech therapy, too. Nothing major, just a nudge to get
her started. For a lot of kids it doesn't take a lot of therapy to get
the ball rolling. If there's just certain sounds she has problems
forming a speech therapist will be able to help her figure out how to
move her mouth to produce those sounds better...


Yes, and a friend who has been through this with her son suggested this
rehab hospital known to be excellent with all sorts of rehab - everything
from spinal damage to speech, walking, whatever the case may be. I'm going
to try and see if I can get a referral to this hospital and have them do a
much better and thorough check on her. This friend suggested even testing
things like fine and gross motor skills and basically everything under the
sun - partially to see if there's any other issues AND to try and get this
'puff funding' thing. I've noticed that DD1 is extremely clumsy... For
example, the constant falling down with a simple walk and just tripping over
her own feet or something (and the last big one = the falling and breaking
her teeth out!)
I found out that a few in my family have had some sort of mild-severe speech
issues... My oldest cousin (he's in his 30s now) had some speech therapy for
a small speech problem, my third oldest cousin, and the one closest in age
to me, had a MAJOR speech problem and my youngest brother had a bad lisp
when he was little, which I'm not sure if he went for anything but I know he
doesn't have it anymore at all.
I think she would benefit from some kind of speech therapy, but even if she
has difficulties forming words, that wouldn't have anything to do with the
amount of words in her vocabulary or how many words she can string together
in a sentence.

Anyway, I really need to go to bed, it's midnight and if I'm lucky I'll
get 7 hours of sleep (hahahahaha, yeah, right)


Oh, 7 hours would be nice... I think I might have gotten almost that last
night LOL

Ask any questions and I'll try to answer!

Take care!
Nicole


Thanks for the reply. It's kind of nice to know that there are others out
there that can give some advice and tips. I know DD1 is smart - she fully
understands - and I'd hate for her to have long term issues with any of
this. It's also nice to know that there seems to be a variety of options
out there that do work and do help!


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Old December 10th 08, 06:01 PM posted to misc.kids
Nikki
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Default DD1 and her speech

Kat wrote:
This friend suggested even testing
things like fine and gross motor skills and basically everything under the
sun - partially to see if there's any other issues AND to try and get this
'puff funding' thing. I've noticed that DD1 is extremely clumsy... For
example, the constant falling down with a simple walk and just tripping over
her own feet or something (and the last big one = the falling and breaking
her teeth out!)


If you feel further evaluations are called for you can ask for them
through your school district. They will do them for free. If she
qualifies for therapy they are required to provide that to you at no
cost as well.

--

Nikki
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Old December 10th 08, 06:35 PM posted to misc.kids
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Default DD1 and her speech

Kat wrote:
"NL" wrote in message
Does she eat normally, i.e. does she have trouble chewing hard things
like meat that's not cut up really small, does she suck things for a
long time (fruit, sweets you usually chew and then swallow,...) Has
anyone checked whether she's doing ok in regards to muscle tone in her
mouth/face and her motor abilities (I have no clue if this makes sense
I'm trying to translate this as best as I can), i.e. has she got
problems moving her tongue (lick the corners of her mouth in a
coordinated manner, not just all around), can she blow things in a
somewhat coordinated manner (blow out a candle, blow away a cotton ball)
can she spit (spit out a cherry stone, spit when she rinses her mouth
after brushing her teeth,...)
Those are things Sam had/has problems with.


Hm... I don't *think* she has these problems... I know she can blow out
candles... She's always blowing out candles I have lit around the house, and
she has no problem with birthday candles and such. She can blow bubbles
(like the soapy bubbles with the sticks in the containers) and she
definitely does spit... She went through a temper tantrum phase of falling
face down on the floor and then spitting - if that counts LOL
She can spit, but she tends to swallow tooth paste (so she gets even less
than the average child her age, I'm sure lol)
I don't think she sucks things, but I've never really noticed, actually.
She does have that known significant overbite, but other than that, I don't
think she has other problems. I don't think she's tongue tied either - I'm
sure this would have been found by now, but I know as an infant, she/we had
problems with breastfeeding.


I'm just asking because Sam had those problems and if I had known that
they're all indicators for low muscle tone and problems with mouth
motorics (still, no clue how to translate the german expression) I would
have been seeking help a lot sooner.

snip
I think she would benefit from some kind of speech therapy, but even if she
has difficulties forming words, that wouldn't have anything to do with the
amount of words in her vocabulary or how many words she can string together
in a sentence.


Well, it would wouldn't it? If you can't produce the s-sound you may not
be able to say s-words, and if you're like my son, who uses the "all or
nothing" approach a lot you wouldn't settle for a mispronounced word either.


Anyway, I really need to go to bed, it's midnight and if I'm lucky I'll
get 7 hours of sleep (hahahahaha, yeah, right)


Oh, 7 hours would be nice... I think I might have gotten almost that last
night LOL


Oh god my morning was awesome today! Sara didn't fully wake up when I
put her into the chariot (doesn't that sound awesome, it's not horse
drawn, it's the bike trailer) and when I got back from dropping Sam off
at school she barely woke up so I put her back into bed, crawled in with
her, set my alarm to 10:30 and was asleep 10 minutes later.
Unfortunately my laundry is very much behind now, as is my kitchen
cleanup... But man I'm feeling well rested!

Thanks for the reply. It's kind of nice to know that there are others out
there that can give some advice and tips. I know DD1 is smart - she fully
understands - and I'd hate for her to have long term issues with any of
this. It's also nice to know that there seems to be a variety of options
out there that do work and do help!


Yes, it's getting into the programs that's hard. Sam's first evaluation
appointment was when he was about 3 and we had over half a year between
referral and appointment because the clinic is so overbooked :-/ If
you're in the same situation (say, your appointment you just made is for
May) keep calling them every two weeks or something to see if someone
canceled an appointment. I got lucky that way and we got seen about two
months earlier than our initial appointment.

take care!
Nicole
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Old December 10th 08, 08:24 PM posted to misc.kids
Kat
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Default DD1 and her speech


"NL" wrote in message
...
Kat wrote:
"NL" wrote in message
Does she eat normally, i.e. does she have trouble chewing hard things
like meat that's not cut up really small, does she suck things for a
long time (fruit, sweets you usually chew and then swallow,...) Has
anyone checked whether she's doing ok in regards to muscle tone in her
mouth/face and her motor abilities (I have no clue if this makes sense
I'm trying to translate this as best as I can), i.e. has she got
problems moving her tongue (lick the corners of her mouth in a
coordinated manner, not just all around), can she blow things in a
somewhat coordinated manner (blow out a candle, blow away a cotton ball)
can she spit (spit out a cherry stone, spit when she rinses her mouth
after brushing her teeth,...)
Those are things Sam had/has problems with.


Hm... I don't *think* she has these problems... I know she can blow out
candles... She's always blowing out candles I have lit around the house,
and
she has no problem with birthday candles and such. She can blow bubbles
(like the soapy bubbles with the sticks in the containers) and she
definitely does spit... She went through a temper tantrum phase of
falling
face down on the floor and then spitting - if that counts LOL
She can spit, but she tends to swallow tooth paste (so she gets even less
than the average child her age, I'm sure lol)
I don't think she sucks things, but I've never really noticed, actually.
She does have that known significant overbite, but other than that, I
don't
think she has other problems. I don't think she's tongue tied either -
I'm
sure this would have been found by now, but I know as an infant, she/we
had
problems with breastfeeding.


I'm just asking because Sam had those problems and if I had known that
they're all indicators for low muscle tone and problems with mouth
motorics (still, no clue how to translate the german expression) I would
have been seeking help a lot sooner.


I really haven't noticed, but I think this might be something I might be
looking for, even if it's unintentional LOL

snip
I think she would benefit from some kind of speech therapy, but even if
she
has difficulties forming words, that wouldn't have anything to do with
the
amount of words in her vocabulary or how many words she can string
together
in a sentence.


Well, it would wouldn't it? If you can't produce the s-sound you may not
be able to say s-words, and if you're like my son, who uses the "all or
nothing" approach a lot you wouldn't settle for a mispronounced word
either.


No, she says things. She doesn't stop when she can't say them, and it's
almost like she's fully understanding herself, which I'm sure she is.
Like a few words I can think of... "Elephant" - it's more like "fefent".
"Walmart" = mamat, supper = suppie... There's probably a lot more, but I
find that most words she uses are not correct, sometimes not even close, but
she does still use them. Also, it's the string of words. Never more than 2
words at a time, as if she comes out with 3, it's so rare. And would be
something that starts with her name or Mommy. Mommy more milk, or something
like that.


Anyway, I really need to go to bed, it's midnight and if I'm lucky I'll
get 7 hours of sleep (hahahahaha, yeah, right)


Oh, 7 hours would be nice... I think I might have gotten almost that last
night LOL


Oh god my morning was awesome today! Sara didn't fully wake up when I
put her into the chariot (doesn't that sound awesome, it's not horse
drawn, it's the bike trailer) and when I got back from dropping Sam off
at school she barely woke up so I put her back into bed, crawled in with
her, set my alarm to 10:30 and was asleep 10 minutes later.
Unfortunately my laundry is very much behind now, as is my kitchen
cleanup... But man I'm feeling well rested!


Must be nice My girls kill eachother in the Chariot - I know of them,
they're made in Calgary, which is pretty much local to me LOL I love mine,
but what a PITA when I need both girls in it... And it's a shame they don't
make them as a triple, which will probably come in handy fairly soon for me
LOL Might have to invest in a single as well and push one ahead of me and
pull the other behind me hahahah
I'm lucky now if the girls sleep til 830, quarter to 9 in the morning now.
Sure beats the 6am wakings with them - or mainly with DD1 and then her
waking DD2 up!
I'm on a roll with the laundry, the kitchen is a disaster, but if it counts
for anything, I spent a lot of time doing massive cleaning in there just 2
days ago, I think it was!


Thanks for the reply. It's kind of nice to know that there are others
out
there that can give some advice and tips. I know DD1 is smart - she
fully
understands - and I'd hate for her to have long term issues with any of
this. It's also nice to know that there seems to be a variety of options
out there that do work and do help!


Yes, it's getting into the programs that's hard. Sam's first evaluation
appointment was when he was about 3 and we had over half a year between
referral and appointment because the clinic is so overbooked :-/ If
you're in the same situation (say, your appointment you just made is for
May) keep calling them every two weeks or something to see if someone
canceled an appointment. I got lucky that way and we got seen about two
months earlier than our initial appointment.

take care!
Nicole


I'm so confused with all of this now, it's not even funny anymore. We've
gone to a few places - the speech place at the hospital. A couple times
now. We were given a referral from there for another health centre and went
to that just on Monday morning - and I found that this place was
pointless... I'm sure it's great, but doesn't seem like the place for us
that I was looking for and hoping for. They didn't do or offer any more
than what I've already been doing at home for a while now.
I was also given some leads to possible special needs preschool programs - 3
of them plus I know of a 4th that I had contacted on my own a while back. I
have to call for the place I knew of to see if I can register her and get
her in, but I have toc all back in Feb - I've marked that down on my
calendar so I don't forget! I also am on a wait list for one of the 3
places I was told about, can't seem to contact another and the third, I just
can't afford unless DD1 has more than one "extreme" delay or problem - so
now I think my next step is to try and get a referral for the rehab hospital
and see if there's more that can be done, and see if they do some sort of
speech therapy or similar. It's just so confusing, and on top of everything
else, plus a pregnancy brain, it's just overwhelming, especially on my own



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Old December 10th 08, 09:18 PM posted to misc.kids
NL
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Default DD1 and her speech

Kat wrote:
"NL" wrote in message


No, she says things. She doesn't stop when she can't say them, and it's
almost like she's fully understanding herself, which I'm sure she is.
Like a few words I can think of... "Elephant" - it's more like "fefent".
"Walmart" = mamat, supper = suppie... There's probably a lot more, but I
find that most words she uses are not correct, sometimes not even close, but
she does still use them. Also, it's the string of words. Never more than 2
words at a time, as if she comes out with 3, it's so rare. And would be
something that starts with her name or Mommy. Mommy more milk, or something
like that.


Well, that's good. Sam did say some word where it took me ages to figure
out what he meant "aloho" - Haferflocken (oatmeal) "baba" - Kaba
(cocoa). It took for ever until he was saying something that came close
to a sentence...

Those are just things to also look for because they might indicate a
different problem, so that's why I mentioned that.

snip
Oh god my morning was awesome today! Sara didn't fully wake up when I
put her into the chariot (doesn't that sound awesome, it's not horse
drawn, it's the bike trailer) and when I got back from dropping Sam off
at school she barely woke up so I put her back into bed, crawled in with
her, set my alarm to 10:30 and was asleep 10 minutes later.
Unfortunately my laundry is very much behind now, as is my kitchen
cleanup... But man I'm feeling well rested!


Must be nice My girls kill eachother in the Chariot - I know of them,
they're made in Calgary, which is pretty much local to me LOL I love mine,
but what a PITA when I need both girls in it... And it's a shame they don't
make them as a triple, which will probably come in handy fairly soon for me
LOL Might have to invest in a single as well and push one ahead of me and
pull the other behind me hahahah


*lol* when I bought mine and checked out the instructions I was laughing
so hard at some of those attachments you can buy for it. But that
contraption where you strap yourself in in front of the chariot might
come in handy for you there *duck*

I'm lucky now if the girls sleep til 830, quarter to 9 in the morning now.
Sure beats the 6am wakings with them - or mainly with DD1 and then her
waking DD2 up!
I'm on a roll with the laundry, the kitchen is a disaster, but if it counts
for anything, I spent a lot of time doing massive cleaning in there just 2
days ago, I think it was!



I'm so confused with all of this now, it's not even funny anymore.


snip

It's just so confusing, and on top of everything
else, plus a pregnancy brain, it's just overwhelming, especially on my own


I know it's overwhelming at first when you don't know where to go yet
and everything's just this mass of information that you have to wade
through... But once you've figured out some bits everything else will
fall into place and as soon as you have some appointments scheduled you
can kind of work from there.

Have you talked to your pediatrician about speech therapy at an actual
speech therapist and not in a preschool kind of setting?
That's how we started out.

About her motor skills, you might want to look into Occupational therapy
(ergotherapy in german) check out this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupat...tional_therapy
for more information.

cu
nicole
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Old December 11th 08, 12:01 AM posted to misc.kids
Kat
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Default DD1 and her speech


"NL" wrote in message
...
Kat wrote:
"NL" wrote in message


No, she says things. She doesn't stop when she can't say them, and it's
almost like she's fully understanding herself, which I'm sure she is.
Like a few words I can think of... "Elephant" - it's more like "fefent".
"Walmart" = mamat, supper = suppie... There's probably a lot more, but I
find that most words she uses are not correct, sometimes not even close,
but
she does still use them. Also, it's the string of words. Never more
than 2
words at a time, as if she comes out with 3, it's so rare. And would be
something that starts with her name or Mommy. Mommy more milk, or
something
like that.


Well, that's good. Sam did say some word where it took me ages to figure
out what he meant "aloho" - Haferflocken (oatmeal) "baba" - Kaba
(cocoa). It took for ever until he was saying something that came close
to a sentence...

Those are just things to also look for because they might indicate a
different problem, so that's why I mentioned that.


But, still definitely worth considering, even if it doesn't apply here.

snip
Oh god my morning was awesome today! Sara didn't fully wake up when I
put her into the chariot (doesn't that sound awesome, it's not horse
drawn, it's the bike trailer) and when I got back from dropping Sam off
at school she barely woke up so I put her back into bed, crawled in with
her, set my alarm to 10:30 and was asleep 10 minutes later.
Unfortunately my laundry is very much behind now, as is my kitchen
cleanup... But man I'm feeling well rested!


Must be nice My girls kill eachother in the Chariot - I know of them,
they're made in Calgary, which is pretty much local to me LOL I love
mine,
but what a PITA when I need both girls in it... And it's a shame they
don't
make them as a triple, which will probably come in handy fairly soon for
me
LOL Might have to invest in a single as well and push one ahead of me
and
pull the other behind me hahahah


*lol* when I bought mine and checked out the instructions I was laughing
so hard at some of those attachments you can buy for it. But that
contraption where you strap yourself in in front of the chariot might
come in handy for you there *duck*


HAHAHA I already have all the available attachment kits for my Chariot...
The strolling wheels, the jogging wheel, the bike attachment, the hiking
attachment (which is probably the one you're thinking about by pulling
behind using the wheels) and the X-country ski attachment (which also pulls
behind, but it has skiis you use instead of the wheels for in the snow) LOL
I bought the hiking kit with the thought that if need be, I *might* be able
to pull it behind me if I need to push a second stroller, but then I figured
that for the first little while anyway, I'll probably not even bother with a
newborn in a stroller... I carried all the kids either on my front or back
until they were too heavy for me to handle or they started to hate being
carried. I do use the hiking kit, however, for some trails we've gone to
locally... and really looking forward to when we go camping in July - to
finally be able to hike around there with a little less issue lol

I'm lucky now if the girls sleep til 830, quarter to 9 in the morning
now.
Sure beats the 6am wakings with them - or mainly with DD1 and then her
waking DD2 up!
I'm on a roll with the laundry, the kitchen is a disaster, but if it
counts
for anything, I spent a lot of time doing massive cleaning in there just
2
days ago, I think it was!



I'm so confused with all of this now, it's not even funny anymore.


snip

It's just so confusing, and on top of everything
else, plus a pregnancy brain, it's just overwhelming, especially on my
own


I know it's overwhelming at first when you don't know where to go yet
and everything's just this mass of information that you have to wade
through... But once you've figured out some bits everything else will
fall into place and as soon as you have some appointments scheduled you
can kind of work from there.


Yes, I'm sure hoping it kind of goes that way!
I almost feel like I am running around, blind, in circles. As of right now,
we've seen 2 speech pathologists/people since DD1 turned 2 (one right after
she turned 2, then the same one again right after she turned 3) and then the
second one was the other day. I also have been talking to a friend and
although she's full of info, I find I'm often a little confused with all
this info just thrown in my face and feel like I'm standing there with,
"There! Figure THAT out!!" or something lol

Have you talked to your pediatrician about speech therapy at an actual
speech therapist and not in a preschool kind of setting?
That's how we started out.


Well, I originally brought it up with my pediatrician - at her 2 year
checkup. He's the one that gave the initial referral for the hospital
speech place, and I've just gone from there. She has a last-second
appointment for the morning of Jan 2 - for the post-op physical, I guess it
is, which is scheduled for 4 days after her visit with the ped. I know
that's not very far away, but I don't know how much time I'll have with the
pediatrician this time around because they are just kind of squeezing me in
for her appointment because there's no choice, she needs this checkup before
her dental surgery. If there's time and option to bring up the talking
issues, I definitely will, but at this point, the more important thing is
the surgery checkup right now.
I believe I can get some kind of referral for just a speech therapist - to
my understanding, this rehab place is not a preschool type setting, but I do
know I need a referral for that. I left a message with the first speech
lady at the hospital just a few minutes ago, but with Christmas, I have no
idea who's on holidays, who's not, when they'll be back, whatever.
As of about half an hour ago, I have her on 2 waiting lists. The one I just
got her on the wait list for today, she's actually the next in line if
something becomes available. I did ask if they go on a basis of need, she
said they go more on a basis of first come, first served, so hopefully we
can get into something as soon as possible.

About her motor skills, you might want to look into Occupational therapy
(ergotherapy in german) check out this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupat...tional_therapy
for more information.

cu
nicole



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Old December 13th 08, 11:44 PM posted to misc.kids
Anne Rogers
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I think she would benefit from some kind of speech therapy, but even if she
has difficulties forming words, that wouldn't have anything to do with the
amount of words in her vocabulary or how many words she can string together
in a sentence.


It might, because if when she was at the stage of forming shorter
statements she didn't get the kind of response that would be normal
because it was more incomprehensible then it might have slowed her
progression to extending them into longer phrases.

Cheers
Anne
 




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