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Parents battle for custody of quintuplets.
Parents battle for custody of quintuplets
http://www.imedinews.ge/en/news_read/48148 TAMPA, Fla., June 26 (UPI) — A Tampa, Fla., father seeking custody of his quintuplet children claims his soon-to-be ex-wife imposes a strict vegan diet on the children. Jeff Nelson-Folkersen claims in papers filed with the Hillsborough County, Fla., court that the mother of the 10-year-old quintuplets, Gail Nelson-Folkersen, has serious psychological control issues related to her vegan lifestyle that lead her to restrict the children's visitations with their paternal grandparents because they own leather furniture, the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times reported Tuesday. Both parents are seeking primary residential custody of all five children. Gail Nelson-Folkersen claims she is more qualified to raise the children because she has been a stay-at-home mother for all of their lives, the newspaper said. The mother said during a 2004 interview that the Florida Department of Children and Families investigated the family when it found out they were keeping the children on a vegan diet. She said the DCF questioned her when the quintuplets were 14 months old and when they were nearly 6, the Times reported. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... |
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Parents battle for custody of quintuplets.
On Jun 26, 8:57 pm, fx wrote:
Parents battle for custody of quintuplets http://www.imedinews.ge/en/news_read/48148 TAMPA, Fla., June 26 (UPI) - A Tampa, Fla., father seeking custody of his quintuplet children claims his soon-to-be ex-wife imposes a strict vegan diet on the children. Jeff Nelson-Folkersen claims in papers filed with the Hillsborough County, Fla., court that the mother of the 10-year-old quintuplets, Gail Nelson-Folkersen, has serious psychological control issues related to her vegan lifestyle that lead her to restrict the children's visitations with their paternal grandparents because they own leather furniture, the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times reported Tuesday. Both parents are seeking primary residential custody of all five children. Gail Nelson-Folkersen claims she is more qualified to raise the children because she has been a stay-at-home mother for all of their lives, the newspaper said. The mother said during a 2004 interview that the Florida Department of Children and Families investigated the family when it found out they were keeping the children on a vegan diet. She said the DCF questioned her when the quintuplets were 14 months old and when they were nearly 6, the Times reported. And yet, no mention of removal, a case being opened, parenting classes, court hearings, etc. Apparently Florida DFS didn't see anything in the two interviews that would indicate that the children were being abused or neglected. But still....we have to post this in ASCPS because there is a mention of DFS investigating allegations....both spaced far apart and years ago. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... |
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Parents battle for custody of quintuplets.
I thought the vegan kook part was interesting, especially
where she was against visits with paternal grandparents because they own leather furniture. When "lazyvegan" returns maybe she can explain this. On Jun 27, 8:44 am, Dragon's Girl wrote: On Jun 26, 8:57 pm, fx wrote: Parents battle for custody of quintuplets http://www.imedinews.ge/en/news_read/48148 TAMPA, Fla., June 26 (UPI) - A Tampa, Fla., father seeking custody of his quintuplet children claims his soon-to-be ex-wife imposes a strict vegan diet on the children. Jeff Nelson-Folkersen claims in papers filed with the Hillsborough County, Fla., court that the mother of the 10-year-old quintuplets, Gail Nelson-Folkersen, has serious psychological control issues related to her vegan lifestyle that lead her to restrict the children's visitations with their paternal grandparents because they own leather furniture, the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times reported Tuesday. Both parents are seeking primary residential custody of all five children. Gail Nelson-Folkersen claims she is more qualified to raise the children because she has been a stay-at-home mother for all of their lives, the newspaper said. The mother said during a 2004 interview that the Florida Department of Children and Families investigated the family when it found out they were keeping the children on a vegan diet. She said the DCF questioned her when the quintuplets were 14 months old and when they were nearly 6, the Times reported. And yet, no mention of removal, a case being opened, parenting classes, court hearings, etc. Apparently Florida DFS didn't see anything in the two interviews that would indicate that the children were being abused or neglected. But still....we have to post this in ASCPS because there is a mention of DFS investigating allegations....both spaced far apart and years ago. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... |
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Parents battle for custody of quintuplets.
On Jun 27, 12:12 pm, Greegor wrote:
I thought the vegan kook part was interesting, especially where she was against visits with paternal grandparents because they own leather furniture. When "lazyvegan" returns maybe she can explain this. On Jun 27, 8:44 am, Dragon's Girl wrote: On Jun 26, 8:57 pm, fx wrote: Parents battle for custody of quintuplets http://www.imedinews.ge/en/news_read/48148 TAMPA, Fla., June 26 (UPI) - A Tampa, Fla., father seeking custody of his quintuplet children claims his soon-to-be ex-wife imposes a strict vegan diet on the children. Jeff Nelson-Folkersen claims in papers filed with the Hillsborough County, Fla., court that the mother of the 10-year-old quintuplets, Gail Nelson-Folkersen, has serious psychological control issues related to her vegan lifestyle that lead her to restrict the children's visitations with their paternal grandparents because they own leather furniture, the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times reported Tuesday. Both parents are seeking primary residential custody of all five children. Gail Nelson-Folkersen claims she is more qualified to raise the children because she has been a stay-at-home mother for all of their lives, the newspaper said. The mother said during a 2004 interview that the Florida Department of Children and Families investigated the family when it found out they were keeping the children on a vegan diet. She said the DCF questioned her when the quintuplets were 14 months old and when they were nearly 6, the Times reported. And yet, no mention of removal, a case being opened, parenting classes, court hearings, etc. Apparently Florida DFS didn't see anything in the two interviews that would indicate that the children were being abused or neglected. But still....we have to post this in ASCPS because there is a mention of DFS investigating allegations....both spaced far apart and years ago. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... Actually,greg the ignorant, vegan diets are quite healthy. For a quick example you can easily replicate the complete proteins found in meat by simply combining rice and beans. It much more work than meat and potatoes so where you get lazy is beyond me. Sounds to me like this is a very gentle, caring mother . Do you know what the meat industry are feeding cattle , hogs and chicken this days? Ignorance is no excuse you ass, once again you haven't a glue what your talking about. BTW, tick toc Firemonkey |
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Parents battle for custody of quintuplets.
firemonkey wrote
Actually,greg the ignorant, vegan diets are quite healthy. For a quick example you can easily replicate the complete proteins found in meat by simply combining rice and beans. I thought it was lentils and beans. Do doctors approve of this for growing children though? Isn't this how you got in trouble with CPS? It much more work than meat and potatoes so where you get lazy is beyond me. Sounds to me like this is a very gentle, caring mother . Do you know what the meat industry are feeding cattle , hogs and chicken this days? Ignorance is no excuse you ass, once again you haven't a glue Glue? As in the glue factory? what your talking about. Do you eat nematodes on your produce? How do you remove them all? I posted before in this very newsgroup that the "prions" that convey mad cow (spongiform brain disease) are freakishly able to survive an autoclave or even incineration. Like germ warfare science fiction stuff, but real. When a processing plant is found to have been exposed, knowledgeable people have suggested that the plant should be incinerated and marked off like a nuclear hot zone because prions just don't die. A person can know about problems with infectious diseases and take extra precautions without being OCD about sanitation or eating habits. I like to use a spray bottle with rubbing alcohol and a clean terry rag sometimes for gross stuff, greasy stuff (toss rag or use paper towel) or final pass cleaning vomit from carpet. Nice to clean counters and kitchen table but not too often without ventilation or the hydrocabron fume toxicity hazard outweighs the infectious hazard. I am especially anal retentive about using rubbing alcohol and a towel on a counter where meat like chicken is handled. A little odd, but not really OCD about it. Isopropanol does not destroy virus protein shells. Nothing destroys prions. My Dad is a retired Mortician and my Mom was a Med Tech and worked in a TB ward in the 1960's. He retired just as embalming went through RADICAL changes because of blood borne pathogens like HIV/AIDS. Face shield, etc. I did find my 1980's USDA pamphlet that says "Enjoy Legumes" and I joke about how it translates into "Eat Beans". Did you do any college Firemonkey, and what subject? Ignorance is no excuse you ass, once again you haven't a glue BTW, tick toc Firemonkey Are you a lacto-ovo-yoyo vegetarian Firemonkey? Did you and Kim go to some Vegan convention or what? Are you part of the alt.recovery.clutter newsgroup? Did you ""bond"" ? Did both of you have vegetarian issues in your CPS cases? CPS removes kids for that you know. Does your doctor do detailed blood workups on the kids to make sure the vegan diet is working for them? Does your doctor support vegan diet for the kids? |
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Parents battle for custody of quintuplets.
On Jun 29, 6:53 am, Greegor wrote:
firemonkey wrote Actually,greg the ignorant, vegan diets are quite healthy. For a quick example you can easily replicate the complete proteins found in meat by simply combining rice and beans. I thought it was lentils and beans. Do doctors approve of this for growing children though? Isn't this how you got in trouble with CPS? For feeding her kids rice and beans? Who do you think reported her? Taco Bell? It much more work than meat and potatoes so where you get lazy is beyond me. Sounds to me like this is a very gentle, caring mother . Do you know what the meat industry are feeding cattle , hogs and chicken this days? Ignorance is no excuse you ass, once again you haven't a glue Glue? As in the glue factory? what your talking about. Do you eat nematodes on your produce? How do you remove them all? I posted before in this very newsgroup that the "prions" that convey mad cow (spongiform brain disease) are freakishly able to survive an autoclave or even incineration. Like germ warfare science fiction stuff, but real. When a processing plant is found to have been exposed, knowledgeable people have suggested that the plant should be incinerated and marked off like a nuclear hot zone because prions just don't die. A person can know about problems with infectious diseases and take extra precautions without being OCD about sanitation or eating habits. I like to use a spray bottle with rubbing alcohol and a clean terry rag sometimes for gross stuff, greasy stuff (toss rag or use paper towel) or final pass cleaning vomit from carpet. You eat carpet wiped clean of vomit? Diggin deep in the dumpsters these days, are ya, Greg? |
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