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ARGH!!! Super formula???? WTF?
As someone who bfs and is temporarily supplementing with formula, I
would want the formula industry to keep doing whatever they can to make it better for those moms who use it -- whatever the reason -- and there are many reasons. I am strongly pro bf, but I am sick and tired of formula feeders being crucified. Could we all please try to be a little less judgemental? You don't know what someone's story is from a few sentences in an article. My story would take several paragraphs at least. It almost seems like some of the people in this group wish formula didn't even exist! I know that's not really the case, but it sometimes seems that way. Please remember that a lot of the people who come here for help getting back to the breast may be supplementing with formula and may feel guilty and defensive when they read anti-formula posts like this. My baby was only 7 oz heavier than her birth weight at 8 weeks: in our case, formula saved her life. I had always planned to exclusively bf, it just didn't work out that way for various reasons. Yes, sometimes women have supply issues, and no, it is usually not their imagination or their fault, and no, sometimes nursing on demand does not solve the problem. Especially if you were already nursing on demand when the problems started, as I was. I am far from rich, but I pay a lot of money to get the best formula that is available in my area, and if there was a more expensive one that was still better, I would buy that one instead. Because what's important is what's best for my baby, and until we get back to exclusively bf (we've gone from about 95% formula to about 25% over the past 8 weeks and are continuing to move toward bf only) what's best is supplementing with formula. It's not like I enjoy having to pump all the time, or taking a million different galactogogues, or using an sns, or switch nursing for an hour, but I do what I have to do. And that includes washing bottles and pumps, mixing formula, dealing with smelly poops, and washing formula-stained clothing. But it's all worth it because DD is thriving and happy (well, as happy as a 4-month-old high-needs baby gets) and has moved up from the 5th percentile to the 35th in 8 weeks. -V. Right on Vijay. I agree with you 100%. I understand this is a bf newsgroup and there are prejudices against forumla, but there are valid reasons for some women. I don't like to hear that some women don't even try, that's sad and I always wonder why, but I don't know the person's story. I am pretty partial to making formula as best as they can. It will never be the same as breast milk, but at least for the ones that have to use it, they can rest assured that it is second best. As a side note, my oldest daughter is not going to be able to breastfeed. Pregnancy at this point is extremely iffy, but they are making great strides in the medical community that might be available to her if she decides to take the risk. Understand, my daughter is only 11 and we have a long way to go, but there will remain many medications in my daughter's life and they are not going away unless the medical community makes her medication better and not found in breast milk. So for my future grandchildren from this daughter (if it can happen), I hope formula is the best they can make it when she is older. Also, you just never know what is behind a person's story. Most people just skim the details so everyone doesn't know their business. This is the reason why I don't get too upset when I hear someone didn't breastfeed. -- Sue (mom to three girls) I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World... |
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ARGH!!! Super formula???? WTF?
Herself writes:
: Yes, it's good that they're trying to make formula better. Your comment and this thread got me to thinking. Yes, I agree that formula companies SHOULD includes additives to make formula better (and surprise, more like breastmilk). My problem is that every time they do this, their marketing hype engine makes it sound like they have created the *perfect* food that could outdo that made even by God. Well, we KNOW what the perfect food made by God is, and the marketing hype just ain't so! Larry |
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ARGH!!! Super formula???? WTF?
Dawn Lawson wrote in message
The POINT is that the number who have valid reasons is FAR FAR smaller than the number who must supplement or use formula exclusively. Well imo, it doesn't matter if the number of people who really can't breastfeed. It matters to me that babies are getting proper nutrition even if their moms decided to use formula for whatever reason. You have obviously got a good reason to be rather more pro-formula than others here, but is it any less an agenda? I don't have an agenda, just a open mind and a general feeling of sadness when a mom is made to feel inferior when she is trying to do her best, even if it isn't choices I would make. ) -- Sue (mom to three girls) I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World... |
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ARGH!!! Super formula???? WTF?
To get a bit back to topic, one thing I find interesting is that a large
perchentage of babies who get the new super formulas end up having stomach problems and have to switch to a regular one. What's the problem here? Sue ** remove "spamnot" to reply** |
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ARGH!!! Super formula???? WTF?
"Sue theo b" wrote in message ... To get a bit back to topic, one thing I find interesting is that a large perchentage of babies who get the new super formulas end up having stomach problems and have to switch to a regular one. What's the problem here? Sue A large percentage of infants who get formula, period, have digestive problems. What's your point? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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ARGH!!! Super formula???? WTF?
"Sue" wrote in message ...
Herself wrote in message This really angers me! At least they put the last paragraph in. I just hate it when they say that they "had" to stop breastfeeding. I can't wait to see what the others say about this eg -- 'Tis Herself However, you have absolutely no idea why this mom had to stop breastfeeding. It's funny to see the women on this group get their hackles up over an article that you don't even have all the details. In regard to the super formula, well good for them for trying making a more superior product for the babies that are drinking it. There are some who just may need to be on formula for one reason or another (adoption comes to mind) even if it is mom who didn't want to breastfeed. I agree. Some moms need to give formula, and it is good that they are trying to make it better. I had to give alot of formula to my first dd. I was unable to overcome all my issues (flat nipples and low supply) before I had to go back to work. They didn't have the fatty acids in the breastmilk then, and I added a fatty acid to my dds formula myself then. I also had to give this baby some formula initially or let her die of dehydration, and I gave her Lipil formula, so I am very glad they are trying to improve the formula. Calling it super formula is stupid though. It is just a bit closer to bm now. KC |
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Sue theo b wrote in message
... To get a bit back to topic, one thing I find interesting is that a large perchentage of babies who get the new super formulas end up having stomach problems and have to switch to a regular one. What's the problem here? Sue It's not just the super formula, it's any formula. Formula is going to be harder on the digestive systems of infants. They can try to make formula as close as they think they can, but they are still not going to be able to put everything found in breastmilk into formula and it can bother lots of babies. -- Sue (mom to three girls) I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World... |
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"Vijay" wrote in message For example I have a friend with lupus who is pregnant and won't be able to bf because of her meds. If I was thinking about weaning Charlotte around the time her baby was born, I'd consider pumping for a few months to give her baby ebm. But Charlotte will only be 7 months when her baby is born and I'm going to bf as long as she wants to. -V. Why won't your friend be able to breastfeed? There's lots of bfing friendly medicines to deal with Lupus. I have Lupus, and I've breastfed 3 kids now. I don't take steroids all the time as a preventive measure, but I did have a horribly bad flare up around the time #3 was born, and she was breastfed till ~17 months even with my medications. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Vijay wrote: The better alternative to formula is getting breast milk from someone else, right? yes. I mean, it's not as good as getting your own breastmilk right from the breast, but it is possible I think. People sell it on ebay and I think there's such a thing as a milk bank but maybe I'm just making that up WHaaaattt??? they sell it on Ebay??? I find that unlikely....really??? Have you SEEN an ad for breastmilk?? They stopped selling body parts on eBay a while ago, I think it odd that they would auction milk. Yes, there are legit milk banks, which are a FAR FAR FAR better idea than eBay. Locally, a woman had to be hospitalised and couldn't bfd, but her friends collected their own bmilk for her DD. Dawn |
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