My Wish

(Fair For All) wrote in
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I just wish kids were treated equally regardless of their
gender. I just wish kids were treated according to their
age and behavior instead of their gender.

Will my dream ever come true?

in general, it has. you either live under a rock or refuse to
see what you don't want to see, since it would challenge your
world view.

Boys are treated badly compared to girls.

how so?

Why is their a girls-go-tech organization? Why don't they
make a Boys-go-tech org.

because there's no demand for it. make a demand & it will be
created. actually, i've never heard of a girls-go-tech
organization and i've been in tech for over 30 years... & i'm
female.

Boys are as frail as girls

actually, infant boys are more frail than infant girls.

Girls are no more innocent than boys.

who says they are? you?

Science proves it.

proves what?
lee

Stephanie Stowe wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message
...

dragonlady wrote:

"Gender" and "sex" are two different things. A person's gender identity
generally matches their biological sex, but it does not always.


Udder nonsense!


Nonsense having to do with the mamary of a cow?


And the asshole of a cow. IOW Cow****!

Bob

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Fair For All wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ...

"Fair For All" wrote in message
.com...

I just wish kids were treated equally regardless of their gender. I
just wish kids were treated according to their age and behavior
instead of their gender.

I don't knwo what gender is when it refers to kids. Gendoer refers to nouns
and verbes iand adjectives in some lanquages. Not to people. The proper term
is sex.


Will my dream ever come true?

I hope not.


Why not??

The advantage I see would be a miraculous decrease in domestic
violence and spousal abuse.

As Ralph used to say, "To the moon, Alice."


Most men who hurt girls were themselves abused as little boys. Abused
by this misandrist society. The boys' abusers were also male and were
in all likelihood heterosexual. The boys' abusers were acting out of
both anti-male sadism and their urge to blend in with society to be
popular. When these poor boys find how they were exploited in
childhood, they become jealous of girls and abuse girls. They want
revenge. Girls might not have attacked them, however girls benefited
from the same society that hurt those boys.

Those who benefit from evil are evil. Jealousy and anger is what
drives men/boys to hurt girls.

More often it's girls/women taunting boys/men to get attention, and/or
girls/women emotionally abusing boys/men.


Q. What is the moral of the story?

A. Harming one gender (i.e. boys) eventually results in harm to the
other gender (i.e. girls). So if you really care about girls, you'd
better care for boys equally.

You must *not*:

1. Treat girl children better than boy children

2. Treat boy children worse than girl children


If people understood this and behaves accordingly, then perhaps
male-to-female violence would decrease by 90%. David Westerfield
wouldn't have the girl-hating anger in him to attack Danielle Vandam.
Samantha Runnion would be alive and in peace and so would her family.

Focusing on male-to-female violence and ignoring female-to-male violence
is the same kind of sexist misandry you seem to have argued against in
the paragraph above.


The abuse of boys is perpetrated solely by heterosexual men. Boys'
abusers are purely heterosexual and male.

That is a total crock of misandrist ****. MOTHERS are the most likely
persons who abuse boys. Mothers do twice as much reported child abuse
as men, and are twice as likely to abuse boys as girls.


Females are incapable of raping males.

Lies and cow****. Many boys are raped by mothers or other older women.


So the abuse of boys is NOT
perpetrated by women, though woman-haters often fantasize about this.

Lies and cow****. It makes you look stupid.


Gay males are incapable of perpertrating any form of aggression.

ROFLMAO!!! Violence in the gay community is MORE common than among
straights. What a pack of lies.


So
people need to stop labeling gay men as abusers. NAMBLA's men are
purely heterosexual. That is what gives the ability to abuse. These
straight male pedophiles harm boys because if they harmed girls,
society would lynch them. In adaptation to society misandry, these
straight men hurt boys.

With as much importance, pre-adolescent boy children are incapable of
perpetrating any form of aggression.

A boy who kisses a girl should not be labeled as an abuser.

A girl who harms a boy deserves as much punishment as a boy who harms
a girl. A kid who harms another kid of the same gender deserves as
much punishment as a boy who harms a girl.


Boys and girls are different, and more just in their sex organs.
Their behavior on average, is different.

No. Where the science?

Yes, boys and girls are different. So are men and women different.


Boys are not stronger than girls. Macho *******s should respect this
fact and stop telling boys to be "men".

The term "macho *******s" is sexist and offensive.

That is because they have innate
differences in their interests.

Scientific proof?

Boys like to play with trucks,, play sports
and be rougher than girls while prefer dolls and playing house more than
boys.

That is because our sick misandrist macho society forces boys to be
"tough", artificial, and supress their emotions. Girls are free to do
anything they want. Boys are told not to cry or hit girls.

The sick misandrist is you fella.


Given a choice, boys would express themselves and stay in the house
more. They would be equally passive to, if not more than, girls. Boys
like softness just as girls do.

LOL. What a crock.

BTW: Men express themselves too. That feminazi lie about men not
expressing our emotions is feminist crap. Men use more subtle forms of
expression and don't blather and gossip like women. That doesn't mean
we don't feel or express our feelings. Women usually aren't sensitive
enough to notice anyone but themselves though, and hence come to believe
that nobody matters but HER!


Adult men are much rougher w/ boy babies than w/ girl babies. No
wonder boy babies die more frequently than girl babies.

Females MURDER boys much more often than girls. Fathers do not murder
children any where near as often as females.

Pre-adolescent boys do not necessarily like to be rougher than
pre-adolescent girls. Science actually proves the reverse.

Cow****!

That is just the way it is.

No. That is how our perverted society forces it to be.

That's just your sick feminist lies.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
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In ,
dragonlady wrote:

*In article ,
* "Jeff" wrote:
*
* "Fair For All" wrote in message
* om...
* I just wish kids were treated equally regardless of their gender. I
* just wish kids were treated according to their age and behavior
* instead of their gender.
*
* I don't knwo what gender is when it refers to kids. Gendoer refers to nouns
* and verbes iand adjectives in some lanquages. Not to people. The proper term
* is sex.
*
*There you go with that bizarre statement again.

It's not bizarre. It's absolutely consistent with my grammar instruction
from 4th grade onward.

h.

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In article , Bob says...

Fair For All wrote:

LOL. What a crock.

BTW: Men express themselves too. That feminazi lie about men not
expressing our emotions is feminist crap. Men use more subtle forms of
expression and don't blather and gossip like women. That doesn't mean
we don't feel or express our feelings. Women usually aren't sensitive
enough to notice anyone but themselves though, and hence come to believe
that nobody matters but HER!

This is amusing. "Bob" saying "Fair for All" is saying feminazi stuff.

Banty

In article ,
(Hillary Israeli) wrote:

In ,
dragonlady wrote:

*In article ,
* "Jeff" wrote:
*
* "Fair For All" wrote in message
* om...
* I just wish kids were treated equally regardless of their gender. I
* just wish kids were treated according to their age and behavior
* instead of their gender.
*
* I don't knwo what gender is when it refers to kids. Gendoer refers to
nouns
* and verbes iand adjectives in some lanquages. Not to people. The proper
term
* is sex.
*
*There you go with that bizarre statement again.

It's not bizarre. It's absolutely consistent with my grammar instruction
from 4th grade onward.

h.


I'd suggest you check a modern dictionary then. English is a living
language, and the use of gender to describe one's biological sex,
especially when one is discussing cultural aspects of gender, is now
both acceptable and common.


meh
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

enigma wrote in message ...
actually, infant boys are more frail than infant girls.

Yet our sick society is gentler w/ baby girls than w/ baby boys.

In fact, the proof that infant boys are weaker than infant girls only
stimulates the cold-hearted, sadistic, anti-male, sexual perversions
of the people who make up our misandrist society. It is through this
sick sexual sadism that adult men often treat boy babies so much worse
than girl babies. In addition, men who treat girls better than boys
often blend in w/ this sick macho society and are actually popular.

Bob wrote in message ...
Fair For All wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ...

"Fair For All" wrote in message
.com...

I just wish kids were treated equally regardless of their gender. I
just wish kids were treated according to their age and behavior
instead of their gender.

I don't knwo what gender is when it refers to kids. Gendoer refers to nouns
and verbes iand adjectives in some lanquages. Not to people. The proper term
is sex.


Will my dream ever come true?

I hope not.


Why not??

The advantage I see would be a miraculous decrease in domestic
violence and spousal abuse.

As Ralph used to say, "To the moon, Alice."


Most men who hurt girls were themselves abused as little boys. Abused
by this misandrist society. The boys' abusers were also male and were
in all likelihood heterosexual. The boys' abusers were acting out of
both anti-male sadism and their urge to blend in with society to be
popular. When these poor boys find how they were exploited in
childhood, they become jealous of girls and abuse girls. They want
revenge. Girls might not have attacked them, however girls benefited
from the same society that hurt those boys.

Those who benefit from evil are evil. Jealousy and anger is what
drives men/boys to hurt girls.

More often it's girls/women taunting boys/men to get attention, and/or
girls/women emotionally abusing boys/men.

No its straight men adapting to societal misandry by abusing boys.

Q. What is the moral of the story?

A. Harming one gender (i.e. boys) eventually results in harm to the
other gender (i.e. girls). So if you really care about girls, you'd
better care for boys equally.

You must *not*:

1. Treat girl children better than boy children

2. Treat boy children worse than girl children


If people understood this and behaves accordingly, then perhaps
male-to-female violence would decrease by 90%. David Westerfield
wouldn't have the girl-hating anger in him to attack Danielle Vandam.
Samantha Runnion would be alive and in peace and so would her family.

Focusing on male-to-female violence and ignoring female-to-male violence
is the same kind of sexist misandry you seem to have argued against in
the paragraph above.

Female-to-male sexual violence is so rare it might as well be ignored.
It is male-to-male sexual violence that is the problem.


The abuse of boys is perpetrated solely by heterosexual men. Boys'
abusers are purely heterosexual and male.

That is a total crock of misandrist ****. MOTHERS are the most likely
persons who abuse boys. Mothers do twice as much reported child abuse
as men, and are twice as likely to abuse boys as girls.

Mothers are the *least* likely to abuse boys. Mothers - at least in
their hearts - love sons as much as daughters.

It is the outdoor society (e.g. school and the public) that are the
nasty culprit. They force boys to be "tough", not to cry, not to hit
girls.


Females are incapable of raping males.

Lies and cow****. Many boys are raped by mothers or other older women.

No. Boys are raped by straight men.


So the abuse of boys is NOT
perpetrated by women, though woman-haters often fantasize about this.

Lies and cow****. It makes you look stupid.

You need to relax and read some science books.

Gay males are incapable of perpertrating any form of aggression.

ROFLMAO!!! Violence in the gay community is MORE common than among
straights. What a pack of lies.

Please understand the difference between "homosexual males" and
"heterosexual males practicing homosexuality". Gay males are totally
innocent. People in the gay community aren't necessarily gay at all.

Straight men who practice homosexuality are the danger. They almost
always include pedophila, necrophilia, coprophilia, sadism,
molestation, and rape in their acts. BTW prison rape is always
perpetrated by straight men.


So
people need to stop labeling gay men as abusers. NAMBLA's men are
purely heterosexual. That is what gives the ability to abuse. These
straight male pedophiles harm boys because if they harmed girls,
society would lynch them. In adaptation to society misandry, these
straight men hurt boys.

With as much importance, pre-adolescent boy children are incapable of
perpetrating any form of aggression.

A boy who kisses a girl should not be labeled as an abuser.

A girl who harms a boy deserves as much punishment as a boy who harms
a girl. A kid who harms another kid of the same gender deserves as
much punishment as a boy who harms a girl.


Boys and girls are different, and more just in their sex organs.
Their behavior on average, is different.

No. Where the science?

Yes, boys and girls are different. So are men and women different.


Boys are not stronger than girls. Macho *******s should respect this
fact and stop telling boys to be "men".

The term "macho *******s" is sexist and offensive.

Why do you say so? It is the macho men who attack weaker males and
male children. They force males to be self-destuctive.

BTW I have read many of your posts. All lot of people respond to you
by calling you "faggot", "sister", "rapist", and other misandrist
terms. These are the macho people who hurt you because you are a male
expressing your feelings.

By saying that "macho *******" is an offensive term, you are only
protecting your attackers. It is the macho men in much of usenet that
attack you.

That is because they have innate
differences in their interests.

Scientific proof?

Boys like to play with trucks,, play sports
and be rougher than girls while prefer dolls and playing house more than
boys.

That is because our sick misandrist macho society forces boys to be
"tough", artificial, and supress their emotions. Girls are free to do
anything they want. Boys are told not to cry or hit girls.

The sick misandrist is you fella.

Please re-organize your frontal cortex. No offense.


Given a choice, boys would express themselves and stay in the house
more. They would be equally passive to, if not more than, girls. Boys
like softness just as girls do.

LOL. What a crock.

BTW: Men express themselves too. That feminazi lie about men not
expressing our emotions is feminist crap. Men use more subtle forms of
expression and don't blather and gossip like women. That doesn't mean
we don't feel or express our feelings. Women usually aren't sensitive
enough to notice anyone but themselves though, and hence come to believe
that nobody matters but HER!

Please understand. It is those evil misandrists who force males not to
express their emotions. They call these males "sissies" forcing
showing any sign of emotion.


Adult men are much rougher w/ boy babies than w/ girl babies. No
wonder boy babies die more frequently than girl babies.

Females MURDER boys much more often than girls. Fathers do not murder
children any where near as often as females.

Once again, you are not understanding that the abuse of boys is
perpetrated solely by straight men. Straight men often adapt to
societal misandry by molesting boys. Around the whole world girls are
treated better than boys. They always have been since humans entered
the world.

Yes. This occurs even in Islam. If you don't believe, please check
out:

http://www.theforumz.com/forumz/showthread/t-2345.html

Pre-adolescent boys do not necessarily like to be rougher than
pre-adolescent girls. Science actually proves the reverse.

Cow****!

Why do you say so? I am only supporting your pro-male views by saying
the above.

That is just the way it is.

No. That is how our perverted society forces it to be.

That's just your sick feminist lies.

I am not feminist. I just believe that kids should be treated equally
regardless of their gender.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

(Fair For All) wrote in
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enigma wrote in message
...
actually, infant boys are more frail than infant girls.

Yet our sick society is gentler w/ baby girls than w/ baby
boys.

In fact, the proof that infant boys are weaker than infant
girls only stimulates the cold-hearted, sadistic,
anti-male, sexual perversions of the people who make up our
misandrist society. It is through this sick sexual sadism
that adult men often treat boy babies so much worse than
girl babies. In addition, men who treat girls better than
boys often blend in w/ this sick macho society and are
actually popular.

i think you need to look beyond your sample of one into
reality.
i'm terribly sorry if you were abused as a child, but your
experience doesn't mean all boys are abused or all of society
is misandrist abusers.
FWIW, my parents raised myself & my brothers equally once
they figured out i didn't *like* dolls & girly stuff, which
was about the time i became verbal at 2. i have no idea how
one treats a girl *infant* differently than a boy. infants are
just so non-gendered. do you have any cites on how boy infants
are treated differently than girls?

now, *i* might have an itty bitty problem with my son, in
that i loathe organized sports, particularly football &
baseball. i'm going to try not to let my bias show, but i
really really hope he doesn't want to take up team sports...
if i 'pressure' him in any direction it will be towards 4H &
away from sports. but i *know* it's a personal bias, & i can
try not to let it interfere with his choices.
so far, he seems to be a farmer & geek like his parents
lee

In article ,
enigma wrote:

(Fair For All) wrote in
om:

enigma wrote in message
...
actually, infant boys are more frail than infant girls.

Yet our sick society is gentler w/ baby girls than w/ baby
boys.

In fact, the proof that infant boys are weaker than infant
girls only stimulates the cold-hearted, sadistic,
anti-male, sexual perversions of the people who make up our
misandrist society. It is through this sick sexual sadism
that adult men often treat boy babies so much worse than
girl babies. In addition, men who treat girls better than
boys often blend in w/ this sick macho society and are
actually popular.

i think you need to look beyond your sample of one into
reality.
i'm terribly sorry if you were abused as a child, but your
experience doesn't mean all boys are abused or all of society
is misandrist abusers.
FWIW, my parents raised myself & my brothers equally once
they figured out i didn't *like* dolls & girly stuff, which
was about the time i became verbal at 2. i have no idea how
one treats a girl *infant* differently than a boy. infants are
just so non-gendered. do you have any cites on how boy infants
are treated differently than girls?


It's been a long time since the studies that I'm familiar with were
done, but there HAVE been studies that show that people tend to handle
boy infants and girl infants differently. They use softer voices and
are more gentle with girls, and are more likely to do physical, fast
games with boys. Even in infancy, boy babies were more likely to have
people hold them up in the air, or do other physical things, while girl
babies were more likely to be held very softly, and closer to the body.
Even the tone of voice was different: softer and higher pitched with
girls, louder and lower pitched with boys.

It was NOT physical cues the babies were giving indicating a preference
for one over the other; they did some studies with babies dressed in
yellow or green, where they told some folks the baby was a boy, and some
the baby was a girl, and the difference was about the same, and pretty
marked.

When my oldest was about 2, she and I spent an afternoon at a park that
was nearly deserted. She was in typical toddler-wear: overalls and a
long sleeved shirt. She had very little hair. A teenage boy started
to play with her in a sterotypical teen-boy fashion: nothing
inappropriate, but very phisical. She was having a GREAT time with him.
When he found out she was a girl, he appologized for being so rough with
her; no amount of verbage on my part seemed to make any difference --
he said he only behaved the way he did because he thought she was a
little boy. He even told me I needed to dress her differently so others
wouldn't make the same mistake and treat her like a boy. My daughter is
only 21 now, and I doubt seriously if things have changed all that much,
though I think there's been some improvement.

meh
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Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care