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Placenta attachment causing bleeding (?) vs. Blighted Ovum... Questions (m/c ment.)
"Marion Boulden" wrote in message ... Last week you would have been about 4 weeks pregnant right? Right about the time you would have had your period had you not been pregnant? Between 4 and 5 weeks (I say closer to 5). Spotting around AF time early in pregnancy is quite common... your hCG #'s look great and they are still going up (you don't double every 48 hours for the whole pregnancy, just the early stages). Wait and see what's what when you have your ultrasound. Thank you! I think a lot of the reason I'm so scared about this is that I was soooo sick with my first pregnancy, this time I'm barely nauseous. The breast tenderness has decreased some as well but I can't remember when that happens nautrally... Thanks again ladies, to all of you! Melody |
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Placenta attachment causing bleeding (?) vs. Blighted Ovum...Questions (m/c ment.)
Melody wrote:
"Mary W." wrote in message link.net... Yes, I've heard of something like this. I think a fair number of women have unexplained spotting. One thing you might want to check is your progesterone level and go on supplements if its low. What will that tell me? What should they be? Thank you. I think progesterone levels lower than 10 is worrisome (maybe someone can chime in here). For my miscarriage, my level was 5. For DD, when I had it checked early it was 20 (I think). And I think low progesterone can cause spotting. Its just something that, in hindsight, I wish I had done. My hCG levels were rising quite slowly, but rising. We had serial ultrasounds, and confirmed a nonviable pregnancy at 8.5 weeks (I think). At that point my levels had started to drop. We never saw a fetal pole or the heartbeat. Did you have a u/s at all before that? I'm so sorry for your loss :-( Thanks. We had multiple ultrasounds. Our first was early (6 weeks?) for dating (I knew when I ovulated but my LMP date put me much farther along - late ovulation, so they wanted to check). That ultrasound dated the pregnancy at more like 5 weeks, so it was off with both my LMP and my ovulation date. That's when they started checking HCG and had me come back for a couple more ultrasounds. The sac got a little bigger, but not as much as it should have and no fetal pole was ever seen. I'm trying to determine if there comes a point where I'm "safe". If you see a heartbeat on early ultrasound that is a *very* good sign. Its not 100%, but it really improves your odds. I'm sorry you are having this stress- it kind of takes alot of the joy out of the pregnancy. So you know, with my daughter we did do an early ultrasound (7w4d) and everything was perfect (heart beat, embryo size). That eased my mind, but I still had worries that I wouldn't have had, without the miscarriage. My current pregnancy, I skipped all the hCG levels, and the early ultrasound and just trusted that everything was OK, and it has been (I'm 30 weeks). I've enjoyed this pregnancy alot more. Best of luck, Mary |
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Placenta attachment causing bleeding (?) vs. Blighted Ovum... Questions (m/c ment.)
On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:54:03 -0400, Mary W. wrote:
What will that tell me? What should they be? Thank you. I think progesterone levels lower than 10 is worrisome (maybe someone can chime in here). Yes, you're right. Below 5 is generally accepted to be a non-viable pregnancy, between 5 and 10 is dubious, and above 10 is normal for first trimester. Although it is not a given that all women with progesterone below 5 will miscarry, and all women above 10 will have a healthy baby, a combination of low progesterone with slow rising hCG is definitely not a good sign. In most cases, the low progesterone is a consequence and not a cause for miscarriage. How I understood it too work: the fertilized egg will produce hCG as soon as it burrows into the uterine lining, which signals the corpus luteum to stay alive and produce progesterone. Initially the hCG production will double every 48h, but this slows down after a few weeks. The progesterone signals the uterus not to shed the endometrium so the embryo can safely develop and grow. However, when the embryo dies, or the egg isn't succesfull for another reason, the hCG production will slow down and eventually drop. Then the corpus luteum dies as well, progesterone will drop, and just like when you get your period, your uterus will shed the lining and you will miscarry. The only women where progesterone supplementing is of any use, is women with a deficiency in their corpus luteum. In their case the hCG is produced normally and will show normal doubling times, but the corpus luteum doesn't respond with producing enough progesterone to maintain the pregnancy and they have a high risk to miscarry. It is not always possible to tell if a woman has this condition, therefore many doctors will give supplements in case of low progesterone anyway. HTH. -- -- I mommy to DS (July '02) mommy to three tiny angels (28 Oct'03, 17 Feb'04 & 20 May'04) guardian of DH (33) |
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Placenta attachment causing bleeding (?) vs. Blighted Ovum... Questions (m/c ment.)
On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:32:14 -0400, Melody wrote:
I'm so sorry (((hugs))). I hope everything works out for you. Thanks Melody. I'm doing pretty well, considering. One of the things that made it obvious to me that it wasn't looking good were your posts. I could compare my numbers to yours, and instantly see that I was nowhere near. It helped a lot in coping with this one that I knew in advance. Yeah, that's one thing I'm afraid of but my midwife is pretty insistant on this date so I'm going to go ahead with it. We should, hopefully, at least be able to see *something*. With current u/s technology they can do remarkable things. I hope you will see all you are looking for and then be able to give yourself a break. Thank you, I will definitely try this. May have to let DH try it too, hehe... Thanks again, your help & support has been amazing. You're more than welcome. It makes me feel a lot better to know that my experiences can at least be a good thing in some way. Doing this exercise together is actually a great idea, I'll suggest that to my DH next time around. If your DH is also very anxious, it may help if you both talk about your worries, especially in combination with reading some good books on pregnancy. Worrying in pregnancy is a perfectly normal thing, but you don't want it to take away all the joy that comes with expecting a baby. -- -- I mommy to DS (July '02) mommy to three tiny angels (28 Oct'03, 17 Feb'04 & 20 May'04) guardian of DH (33) |
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