Victory!

"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:

No, Soprano, not for child support. That is just a decision you get to
make and others will enforce. I have read your other writings.
Believe it or not, I do know where you are coming from. It is very
difficult to trust others, isn't it? You have a path that only you can
walk--we all do. But there are others to help you along the way. You
need to find someone that you really trust--a face to face person,
because tome of voice and body language are such a huge part of
communication--and really get to step 5. You cannot keep all this self
doubt and fear stuffed inside. You seem to belong to any number of
groups, and do a lot of internet communication--but none of it is going
to make decisions for you. That is still going to be your choices.
I trust a lot of people. I am solely here to deal with child support. I
trust a lot of people face to face. I am on Step 8. I like to write.

As I wrote before, Atlanta, the decision to file for governemnt enforced
child support is a complex one. It would be impossible for us here to
tell you "yes" or"no." We can only give advice. The decision is yours.
It sounds as if your ex might realize that he needs help with his
commitment to provide financially for his daughter, and is willing to
have CSE help him with this. I would imagine, from some of what you have
written, that he migfht belong to at least one of the organizations that
you belong to--or, possibly, night need to belong. In that case, a
little extra help keeping financial commitments might be exactly what he
needs. Seemingly both of you agree with this course of action, so I have
no problem with it. I wish you luck in overcoming your obstacles.
He should belong to one of those fellowships. That is up to him. Pray for
him. He's struggling. And yes, that's the issue. After one year I have
made the decision to file these papers. That is the advice. It is a
complicated issue. But it is for our daughter, not me. I don't want to do
this. I didn't want to divorce him. But this is life. This is adulthood.
This is maturity. This is motherhood. This is responsibility. I had no
idea our marriage would end in divorce after 5 years and 9 months. Its a
great sorrow and a great tragedy. But that's the way it goes.

But the fact is that until he really wants to change, there is nothing you
can do. Everyone has a different bottom that they need to hit before they
realize that it is up to them to take the steps to change. Does he live in
the same community as you do? I will definitely keep you both in my
thoughts and prayers.

teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:

No, Soprano, not for child support. That is just a decision you get to
make and others will enforce. I have read your other writings.
Believe it or not, I do know where you are coming from. It is very
difficult to trust others, isn't it? You have a path that only you can
walk--we all do. But there are others to help you along the way. You
need to find someone that you really trust--a face to face person,
because tome of voice and body language are such a huge part of
communication--and really get to step 5. You cannot keep all this self
doubt and fear stuffed inside. You seem to belong to any number of
groups, and do a lot of internet communication--but none of it is going
to make decisions for you. That is still going to be your choices.
I trust a lot of people. I am solely here to deal with child support. I
trust a lot of people face to face. I am on Step 8. I like to write.
As I wrote before, Atlanta, the decision to file for governemnt enforced
child support is a complex one. It would be impossible for us here to
tell you "yes" or"no." We can only give advice. The decision is yours.
It sounds as if your ex might realize that he needs help with his
commitment to provide financially for his daughter, and is willing to
have CSE help him with this. I would imagine, from some of what you have
written, that he migfht belong to at least one of the organizations that
you belong to--or, possibly, night need to belong. In that case, a
little extra help keeping financial commitments might be exactly what he
needs. Seemingly both of you agree with this course of action, so I have
no problem with it. I wish you luck in overcoming your obstacles.
He should belong to one of those fellowships. That is up to him. Pray for
him. He's struggling. And yes, that's the issue. After one year I have
made the decision to file these papers. That is the advice. It is a
complicated issue. But it is for our daughter, not me. I don't want to do
this. I didn't want to divorce him. But this is life. This is adulthood.
This is maturity. This is motherhood. This is responsibility. I had no
idea our marriage would end in divorce after 5 years and 9 months. Its a
great sorrow and a great tragedy. But that's the way it goes.

But the fact is that until he really wants to change, there is nothing you
can do. Everyone has a different bottom that they need to hit before they
realize that it is up to them to take the steps to change. Does he live in
the same community as you do? I will definitely keep you both in my
thoughts and prayers.


Yes. We live in the same county and attend the same parish and my clergy
say he may not have hit his bottom yet. Well ****. I have known the man
11 years and I have watched him bottom out this past month and in a way
I have never seen before and its ****ed. That's all I can say.

"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:

No, Soprano, not for child support. That is just a decision you get
to make and others will enforce. I have read your other writings.
Believe it or not, I do know where you are coming from. It is very
difficult to trust others, isn't it? You have a path that only you
can walk--we all do. But there are others to help you along the way.
You need to find someone that you really trust--a face to face
person, because tome of voice and body language are such a huge part
of communication--and really get to step 5. You cannot keep all this
self doubt and fear stuffed inside. You seem to belong to any number
of groups, and do a lot of internet communication--but none of it is
going to make decisions for you. That is still going to be your
choices.
I trust a lot of people. I am solely here to deal with child support.
I trust a lot of people face to face. I am on Step 8. I like to write.
As I wrote before, Atlanta, the decision to file for governemnt
enforced child support is a complex one. It would be impossible for us
here to tell you "yes" or"no." We can only give advice. The decision
is yours. It sounds as if your ex might realize that he needs help with
his commitment to provide financially for his daughter, and is willing
to have CSE help him with this. I would imagine, from some of what you
have written, that he migfht belong to at least one of the
organizations that you belong to--or, possibly, night need to belong.
In that case, a little extra help keeping financial commitments might
be exactly what he needs. Seemingly both of you agree with this course
of action, so I have no problem with it. I wish you luck in overcoming
your obstacles.
He should belong to one of those fellowships. That is up to him. Pray
for him. He's struggling. And yes, that's the issue. After one year I
have made the decision to file these papers. That is the advice. It is a
complicated issue. But it is for our daughter, not me. I don't want to
do this. I didn't want to divorce him. But this is life. This is
adulthood. This is maturity. This is motherhood. This is responsibility.
I had no idea our marriage would end in divorce after 5 years and 9
months. Its a great sorrow and a great tragedy. But that's the way it
goes.

But the fact is that until he really wants to change, there is nothing
you can do. Everyone has a different bottom that they need to hit before
they realize that it is up to them to take the steps to change. Does he
live in the same community as you do? I will definitely keep you both in
my thoughts and prayers.
Yes. We live in the same county and attend the same parish and my clergy
say he may not have hit his bottom yet. Well ****. I have known the man 11
years and I have watched him bottom out this past month and in a way I
have never seen before and its ****ed. That's all I can say.

Good. That is usually what it takes. Now maybe he can begin to come back.
Never give up hope of that--but take the steps you need to for your child
and yourself in the meantime.

teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
...
teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
...
teachrmama wrote:

No, Soprano, not for child support. That is just a decision you get
to make and others will enforce. I have read your other writings.
Believe it or not, I do know where you are coming from. It is very
difficult to trust others, isn't it? You have a path that only you
can walk--we all do. But there are others to help you along the way.
You need to find someone that you really trust--a face to face
person, because tome of voice and body language are such a huge part
of communication--and really get to step 5. You cannot keep all this
self doubt and fear stuffed inside. You seem to belong to any number
of groups, and do a lot of internet communication--but none of it is
going to make decisions for you. That is still going to be your
choices.
I trust a lot of people. I am solely here to deal with child support.
I trust a lot of people face to face. I am on Step 8. I like to write.
As I wrote before, Atlanta, the decision to file for governemnt
enforced child support is a complex one. It would be impossible for us
here to tell you "yes" or"no." We can only give advice. The decision
is yours. It sounds as if your ex might realize that he needs help with
his commitment to provide financially for his daughter, and is willing
to have CSE help him with this. I would imagine, from some of what you
have written, that he migfht belong to at least one of the
organizations that you belong to--or, possibly, night need to belong.
In that case, a little extra help keeping financial commitments might
be exactly what he needs. Seemingly both of you agree with this course
of action, so I have no problem with it. I wish you luck in overcoming
your obstacles.
He should belong to one of those fellowships. That is up to him. Pray
for him. He's struggling. And yes, that's the issue. After one year I
have made the decision to file these papers. That is the advice. It is a
complicated issue. But it is for our daughter, not me. I don't want to
do this. I didn't want to divorce him. But this is life. This is
adulthood. This is maturity. This is motherhood. This is responsibility.
I had no idea our marriage would end in divorce after 5 years and 9
months. Its a great sorrow and a great tragedy. But that's the way it
goes.
But the fact is that until he really wants to change, there is nothing
you can do. Everyone has a different bottom that they need to hit before
they realize that it is up to them to take the steps to change. Does he
live in the same community as you do? I will definitely keep you both in
my thoughts and prayers.
Yes. We live in the same county and attend the same parish and my clergy
say he may not have hit his bottom yet. Well ****. I have known the man 11
years and I have watched him bottom out this past month and in a way I
have never seen before and its ****ed. That's all I can say.

Good. That is usually what it takes. Now maybe he can begin to come back.
Never give up hope of that--but take the steps you need to for your child
and yourself in the meantime.


To be honest, I don't have much hope at this point. I have learned to
live despite what he is doing.

"Soprano" wrote in message
...
teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
...
teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
...
teachrmama wrote:
"Soprano" wrote in message
...
teachrmama wrote:

No, Soprano, not for child support. That is just a decision you
get to make and others will enforce. I have read your other
writings. Believe it or not, I do know where you are coming from.
It is very difficult to trust others, isn't it? You have a path
that only you can walk--we all do. But there are others to help
you along the way. You need to find someone that you really
trust--a face to face person, because tome of voice and body
language are such a huge part of communication--and really get to
step 5. You cannot keep all this self doubt and fear stuffed
inside. You seem to belong to any number of groups, and do a lot
of internet communication--but none of it is going to make
decisions for you. That is still going to be your choices.
I trust a lot of people. I am solely here to deal with child
support. I trust a lot of people face to face. I am on Step 8. I
like to write.
As I wrote before, Atlanta, the decision to file for governemnt
enforced child support is a complex one. It would be impossible for
us here to tell you "yes" or"no." We can only give advice. The
decision is yours. It sounds as if your ex might realize that he
needs help with his commitment to provide financially for his
daughter, and is willing to have CSE help him with this. I would
imagine, from some of what you have written, that he migfht belong to
at least one of the organizations that you belong to--or, possibly,
night need to belong. In that case, a little extra help keeping
financial commitments might be exactly what he needs. Seemingly both
of you agree with this course of action, so I have no problem with
it. I wish you luck in overcoming your obstacles.
He should belong to one of those fellowships. That is up to him. Pray
for him. He's struggling. And yes, that's the issue. After one year I
have made the decision to file these papers. That is the advice. It is
a complicated issue. But it is for our daughter, not me. I don't want
to do this. I didn't want to divorce him. But this is life. This is
adulthood. This is maturity. This is motherhood. This is
responsibility. I had no idea our marriage would end in divorce after
5 years and 9 months. Its a great sorrow and a great tragedy. But
that's the way it goes.
But the fact is that until he really wants to change, there is nothing
you can do. Everyone has a different bottom that they need to hit
before they realize that it is up to them to take the steps to change.
Does he live in the same community as you do? I will definitely keep
you both in my thoughts and prayers.
Yes. We live in the same county and attend the same parish and my clergy
say he may not have hit his bottom yet. Well ****. I have known the man
11 years and I have watched him bottom out this past month and in a way
I have never seen before and its ****ed. That's all I can say.

Good. That is usually what it takes. Now maybe he can begin to come
back. Never give up hope of that--but take the steps you need to for your
child and yourself in the meantime.
To be honest, I don't have much hope at this point. I have learned to live
despite what he is doing.

As long as he is breathing there is hope.