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lizzard woman wrote:
Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't publish the standardized test scores? One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for our college and university application process. So the testing becomes irrelavant. -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in message ... | lizzard woman wrote: | | Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't | publish the standardized test scores? | | One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for | our college and university application process. So the testing becomes | irrelavant. Wow. That was no small feature to overlook. I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh... heh...) How ya feeling? -- sharon, momma to savannah and willow (11/11/94) |
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"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in message ... | lizzard woman wrote: | | Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't | publish the standardized test scores? | | One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for | our college and university application process. So the testing becomes | irrelavant. Wow. That was no small feature to overlook. I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh... heh...) How ya feeling? -- sharon, momma to savannah and willow (11/11/94) |
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lizzard woman wrote:
"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in message ... | lizzard woman wrote: | | Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't | publish the standardized test scores? | | One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for | our college and university application process. So the testing becomes | irrelavant. Wow. That was no small feature to overlook. I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh... heh...) How ya feeling? Waiting, waiting, waiting...... LOL! :-) -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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lizzard woman wrote:
"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in message ... | lizzard woman wrote: | | Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't | publish the standardized test scores? | | One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for | our college and university application process. So the testing becomes | irrelavant. Wow. That was no small feature to overlook. I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh... heh...) How ya feeling? Waiting, waiting, waiting...... LOL! :-) -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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"H Schinske" wrote in message ... If anything, being literate in two languages would be extraordinarily helpful. Latin was immensely helpful on the verbal SAT, and French would have been nearly as much so. I agree. I think exposure to other languages helps vocabulary quite a lot. My kids' school uses a spelling program that has (imho) some absolutely ridiculous words on the weekly list (108 words per week with 40-50 words on a test every Friday. Often, these words are entirely new to the kids, so we wind up having a vocabulary lesson as well as a spelling lesson. One of this weeks' words, for example, is "manipulation"; it would be much easier for the kids to know what this means if they knew that "le main" is "the hand" in French. When we worked on "interruption", I had to remind them that it came from the Latin "inter" and "ruptare" [or whatever that root is...] to help them remember the double R [kids up here all know about ruptured pipes!]. In my opinion, having a second language would *help*, vocabulary in the primary language, not hurt. Julie Mom to Erica & Chris, 07/97 |
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"H Schinske" wrote in message ... If anything, being literate in two languages would be extraordinarily helpful. Latin was immensely helpful on the verbal SAT, and French would have been nearly as much so. I agree. I think exposure to other languages helps vocabulary quite a lot. My kids' school uses a spelling program that has (imho) some absolutely ridiculous words on the weekly list (108 words per week with 40-50 words on a test every Friday. Often, these words are entirely new to the kids, so we wind up having a vocabulary lesson as well as a spelling lesson. One of this weeks' words, for example, is "manipulation"; it would be much easier for the kids to know what this means if they knew that "le main" is "the hand" in French. When we worked on "interruption", I had to remind them that it came from the Latin "inter" and "ruptare" [or whatever that root is...] to help them remember the double R [kids up here all know about ruptured pipes!]. In my opinion, having a second language would *help*, vocabulary in the primary language, not hurt. Julie Mom to Erica & Chris, 07/97 |
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Kim --
If you were satisfied with her first year, I would go for it. Julie "KimandJuan" wrote in message ... I have enrolled my daughter in a public school that offers a Dual Language Spanish/English class. Half the class is native Spanish speakers and half is native English speakers. The children are taught from preK-2 in Spanish through out the day except for language arts, where they break into groups which is taught in their native language. In 3-4 grade they are then taught the whole day in English except language arts is taught in the second language. I did have some concerns before enrolling her in the program but I thought that this year of preschool would be my trial year. I figured it was worth it even if the least she learns is a few Spanish words and develops her social skills. But now I am having to decide if I want to commit her to the program for the next 4 years. In theory I love the idea of her being Bilingual, Biliterate and Bicultural. This is the projected goal of the students in this program. The children in programs like these have entered 5th grade not only being proficient in both languages but are actually ahead in English then their peers whom did not participate in the program. My main concern is that our program is only in its first year and I don't have much to compare it to. I was wondering if any of you have any such programs in your area or any personal experience with these programs. I want to make sure I am making the most informed decision. For those of you that aren't familiar maybe you could give me some of your concerns, maybe they are things I haven't thought of. Thanks, ~Kimberly Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02 come see us... http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/ |
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Kim --
If you were satisfied with her first year, I would go for it. Julie "KimandJuan" wrote in message ... I have enrolled my daughter in a public school that offers a Dual Language Spanish/English class. Half the class is native Spanish speakers and half is native English speakers. The children are taught from preK-2 in Spanish through out the day except for language arts, where they break into groups which is taught in their native language. In 3-4 grade they are then taught the whole day in English except language arts is taught in the second language. I did have some concerns before enrolling her in the program but I thought that this year of preschool would be my trial year. I figured it was worth it even if the least she learns is a few Spanish words and develops her social skills. But now I am having to decide if I want to commit her to the program for the next 4 years. In theory I love the idea of her being Bilingual, Biliterate and Bicultural. This is the projected goal of the students in this program. The children in programs like these have entered 5th grade not only being proficient in both languages but are actually ahead in English then their peers whom did not participate in the program. My main concern is that our program is only in its first year and I don't have much to compare it to. I was wondering if any of you have any such programs in your area or any personal experience with these programs. I want to make sure I am making the most informed decision. For those of you that aren't familiar maybe you could give me some of your concerns, maybe they are things I haven't thought of. Thanks, ~Kimberly Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02 come see us... http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/ |
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Thank you all so much for responding. I am somewhat conflicted while making my
decision. I am on board with the concept of the program. My hesitation lies in the fact that ours is a new program and I hate for Alexis to be a guinea pig. However, I am leaning more towards it. Relying on the fact that ultimately Juan and I are responsible for her education in the end, whether it be in a traditional setting or the dual language classroom. Missy, you pointed out everything that I have been going over in my head, thanks for the reassurance. ~Kimberly Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02 come see us... http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/ |
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