Past Due Support

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:26:48 -0600, Bob wrote:

Beverly wrote:
My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.


And never once did you consider getting a job and supporting YOUR kids.
YOU are 100% responsible for the support of the kids that YOU choose
to bear. The co-equal responsibility of their fathers does not excuse
you from your 100% responsibility for their support. Like all whiny
bitches you expect men-pay, women-get-paid.

Pound sand bitch.

Excuse me? What caused you to have the impression that I didn't work
or that I don't take 100% responsibility for the support of my
children? Having not gone on welfare after splitting, who do you
think supported the children 100% until there was an order? Who do
you think supports the children 100% when their father is "between
jobs?" I have enabled myself to provide for my children without my
ex's help AT ALL since that is what I do most of the time anyway. In
fact, I have subsidized my ex's existence, too, because he gets the
tax dependencies whether or not he pays support... and he had been
"between jobs" for a very long time.

"LouKing" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6 years
he "disappeared"?

Just find some maggot feminazi group (an internet search will bring up loads
of em'), and they will instruct you on how to pursue your dirty deed!

"LouKing" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6 years
he "disappeared"?

Just find some maggot feminazi group (an internet search will bring up loads
of em'), and they will instruct you on how to pursue your dirty deed!

"LouKing" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6 years
he "disappeared"?

Just find some maggot feminazi group (an internet search will bring up loads
of em'), and they will instruct you on how to pursue your dirty deed!

"LouKing" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6 years
he "disappeared"?

Just find some maggot feminazi group (an internet search will bring up loads
of em'), and they will instruct you on how to pursue your dirty deed!

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:26:48 -0600, Bob wrote:

Beverly wrote:
My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.


And never once did you consider getting a job and supporting YOUR kids.
YOU are 100% responsible for the support of the kids that YOU choose
to bear. The co-equal responsibility of their fathers does not excuse
you from your 100% responsibility for their support. Like all whiny
bitches you expect men-pay, women-get-paid.

Pound sand bitch.

Excuse me? What caused you to have the impression that I didn't work
or that I don't take 100% responsibility for the support of my
children? Having not gone on welfare after splitting, who do you
think supported the children 100% until there was an order? Who do
you think supports the children 100% when their father is "between
jobs?" I have enabled myself to provide for my children without my
ex's help AT ALL since that is what I do most of the time anyway.

If you support your children 100%, then what's up with this "order"?

In
fact, I have subsidized my ex's existence, too, because he gets the
tax dependencies whether or not he pays support... and he had been
"between jobs" for a very long time.