Past Due Support

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:48:05 -0700, "Chris" wrote:


"Beverly" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support, only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

Now I know why you are so bitter. You had a bad education and
sentence structure confuses you. The pronoun used is dependent upon
the noun for which it refers. If the noun is plural, the proper
pronoun is "their." If the noun is masuline, it is "his." If the
noun is feminine, it is "her."


will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

Beverly wrote:

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child will most likely not be
providing regular support.

Un, no. Supporting a child is NOT **paying** the bitch who broke up the
child's family. Paying females has NOTHING to do with supporting a child.

You support a child by putting a plate on the table at dinner, and
providing a place on your home to sleep.

You whinny greedy bitches always pretend that men paying women is
"supporting a child" but you lie a lot.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

Beverly wrote:

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child will most likely not be
providing regular support.

Un, no. Supporting a child is NOT **paying** the bitch who broke up the
child's family. Paying females has NOTHING to do with supporting a child.

You support a child by putting a plate on the table at dinner, and
providing a place on your home to sleep.

You whinny greedy bitches always pretend that men paying women is
"supporting a child" but you lie a lot.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

Beverly wrote:

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child will most likely not be
providing regular support.

Un, no. Supporting a child is NOT **paying** the bitch who broke up the
child's family. Paying females has NOTHING to do with supporting a child.

You support a child by putting a plate on the table at dinner, and
providing a place on your home to sleep.

You whinny greedy bitches always pretend that men paying women is
"supporting a child" but you lie a lot.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

Beverly wrote:

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child will most likely not be
providing regular support.

Un, no. Supporting a child is NOT **paying** the bitch who broke up the
child's family. Paying females has NOTHING to do with supporting a child.

You support a child by putting a plate on the table at dinner, and
providing a place on your home to sleep.

You whinny greedy bitches always pretend that men paying women is
"supporting a child" but you lie a lot.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:48:05 -0700, "Chris" wrote:


"Beverly" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around
my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the
county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support,
only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER
child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

Now I know why you are so bitter. You had a bad education and
sentence structure confuses you. The pronoun used is dependent upon
the noun for which it refers. If the noun is plural, the proper
pronoun is "their." If the noun is masuline, it is "his." If the
noun is feminine, it is "her."

Nice lil' red herring.



will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:48:05 -0700, "Chris" wrote:


"Beverly" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around
my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the
county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support,
only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER
child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

Now I know why you are so bitter. You had a bad education and
sentence structure confuses you. The pronoun used is dependent upon
the noun for which it refers. If the noun is plural, the proper
pronoun is "their." If the noun is masuline, it is "his." If the
noun is feminine, it is "her."

Nice lil' red herring.



will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:48:05 -0700, "Chris" wrote:


"Beverly" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around
my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the
county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support,
only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER
child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

Now I know why you are so bitter. You had a bad education and
sentence structure confuses you. The pronoun used is dependent upon
the noun for which it refers. If the noun is plural, the proper
pronoun is "their." If the noun is masuline, it is "his." If the
noun is feminine, it is "her."

Nice lil' red herring.



will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Beverly" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:48:05 -0700, "Chris" wrote:


"Beverly" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:25:42 -0400, "LouKing"
wrote:

I am new to the board and desperately seeking help. I chased around
my
ex
for 6 years and finally got a court order against him through the
county
but they would not go back to the time I actually filed for support,
only
from the time they found him - how do I go about suing him for the 6
years
he "disappeared"?

I can't speak for other states, but I once questioned my attorney
about this and was told that my state disallowed retroactive child
support. That is... support is only legally due once an order has
been established. I suppose that is why I've heard of such a thing as
a" temporary order of support" which I suspect would be the order
given/asked for upon filing, but before the full case was heard in
court.

My divorce took over 3 years and I was using legal aid for my
representation for all but the last few months. My ex was/is a good
game player and knew how to cause continuances... including hiring an
attorney who sat on the board of Legal Aid which created a conflict
which caused MY need to change attorney who needed a continuance to
catch up on the case. Anyway, I suspect it is because I used Legal
Aid that a temporary order of support was never asked for. I didn't
have to chase my ex for several years, but I did have to ride out the
court schedule. Support was ordered from the month we were divorced,
not the month I filed.

I'm a bit confused as to why a case was not heard within 6 years, with
or without your ex. Service is normally required a reasonable attempt
such as publicatrion in a local newspaper to his last known address.
A court would have imputed minimum wage should he not have appeared.
It would not have helped GETTING the support, but he would have been
ordered to pay it.

Did you file with the court or with the county child support
enforcement office? It would make a difference because the COURT
filing would not have occurred until he was found. When one goes to
child support enforcement, they are the ones who take him to court and
it makes sense that the county would not expend legal resources until
they had a reasonable abilty to collect... which means they would need
to know where he was. Hence, your support may have been retroactive
to the court filing.

At any rate, whenever the court establishes support is to begin is
irrefutable EXCEPT if there was a misapplication of law and an appeal
is sought. The window for appeal is very small and you have likely
exceeded it (how long since the judgement?) since you were calm enough
to post rationally. No court now will go further back than the date
of the last order. This is how our justice system works to empower to
courts. You don't stand a chance in h*** of recouping those 6 years.

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child

Uhuh. "His" child when it comes to paying money to the woman; but HER
child
when it comes to choosing birth, having custody, and collecting so-called
"child support"! What's up with THAT?

Now I know why you are so bitter. You had a bad education and
sentence structure confuses you. The pronoun used is dependent upon
the noun for which it refers. If the noun is plural, the proper
pronoun is "their." If the noun is masuline, it is "his." If the
noun is feminine, it is "her."

Nice lil' red herring.



will most likely not be
providing regular support. Sure, it may be ordered. Sure, it may be
withheld from his pay. Sure, you may have enforcement agencies
working with you. But a change in jobs or locations can cause gaps,
sometimes large, in the monthly stream of support payments. Your best
bet is to get yourself into a position where you can do it yourself
(i.e. get a degree and a good job). "Fair" does not feed or clothe
your child. It is not unreasonable to expect the father to help even
if you can do it yourself, but being able to do it yourself ensures
that you and your child will be okay.

"Bob" wrote in message
...
Beverly wrote:

Just to empower you, I'd like to warn you that any father willing to
hide for 6 years to avoid supporting his child will most likely not be
providing regular support.

Un, no. Supporting a child is NOT **paying** the bitch who broke up the
child's family. Paying females has NOTHING to do with supporting a child.

You support a child by putting a plate on the table at dinner, and
providing a place on your home to sleep.

You whinny greedy bitches always pretend that men paying women is
"supporting a child" but you lie a lot.

It amounts to nothing more than backdoor alimony.


Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]