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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:49:54 -0700, "teachrmama"
wrote: "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:5lESh.49646$6m4.34588@pd7urf1no... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Robert" wrote in message ... Are you really stupid? Or do you think everyone else is? Women have died from complications from a tubal. Women have had complications from pills, and IUDS, decided on a tubal and died. Liz is correct, any man that doesn't want to father a child and be a real daddy, should get his cords clipped. Far safer than a tubal for a woman. Any man that doesn't want to get a STD, needs to use a condom, unless he has absolute faith in his partner. The father of any child should support that child, even if he has to be put in a slave labor condition. Men can prevent pregnancy in the woman he is taking pleasure from. My body. My choice. Women have no right to tell men what they should do regarding their bodies. If a man makes a poor choice, women should be held financially responsible for my choice just as men are held financially responsible when women make unilateral choices. I can't wait for the Equal Rights Amendment to come up again. Here's the Lesson Number One: Only women can get pregnant, not men. Lesson Number Two: Men cannot get pregnant. Lesson Number Three: If a man gets pregnant, then by all means, he can do whatever he wants to do. But if a woman gets pregnant, only she can make the decision without "the help of a darling man". Lesson Number Four: There are many, many unwanted children in this world. Are you sure you wanted to add more to the unwanted population, men? Why not make 50/50 joint custody, with each parent supporting the child while the child is with them the norm? That would solve all problems, right? Many in prison are parents, many single parents are widowed. Many parents are drug addicts. And many are self centered, idiots that simply live for the moment. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 22:44:56 -0700, "teachrmama"
wrote: "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:QqFSh.49735$aG1.1123@pd7urf3no... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:5lESh.49646$6m4.34588@pd7urf1no... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Robert" wrote in message ... Are you really stupid? Or do you think everyone else is? Women have died from complications from a tubal. Women have had complications from pills, and IUDS, decided on a tubal and died. Liz is correct, any man that doesn't want to father a child and be a real daddy, should get his cords clipped. Far safer than a tubal for a woman. Any man that doesn't want to get a STD, needs to use a condom, unless he has absolute faith in his partner. The father of any child should support that child, even if he has to be put in a slave labor condition. Men can prevent pregnancy in the woman he is taking pleasure from. My body. My choice. Women have no right to tell men what they should do regarding their bodies. If a man makes a poor choice, women should be held financially responsible for my choice just as men are held financially responsible when women make unilateral choices. I can't wait for the Equal Rights Amendment to come up again. Here's the Lesson Number One: Only women can get pregnant, not men. Lesson Number Two: Men cannot get pregnant. Lesson Number Three: If a man gets pregnant, then by all means, he can do whatever he wants to do. But if a woman gets pregnant, only she can make the decision without "the help of a darling man". Lesson Number Four: There are many, many unwanted children in this world. Are you sure you wanted to add more to the unwanted population, men? Why not make 50/50 joint custody, with each parent supporting the child while the child is with them the norm? That would solve all problems, right? What if the mother doesn't want the child to start with hm? For an example. after the child birth, the mother would refuse to look at or hold the child. When it is the time to leave, the mother leaves without the child. Now what would the solution be? Gee, how about, if thefather wants the child, MOM has to pay child support until the child is 18. How does that sound to you? Because that is how men are treated now. Sound fair? That's how it works, except Mom gets custody in most cases, and percentage wise there are more deadbeat moms than Dads. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:26:27 -0700, "Chris" wrote:
Ohm grow up! What a fool. Any woman who cannot support a child should keep her panties on and herlegs together. You grow up, a responsible man doesn't father a child. Guess YOUR father wasn't responsible. Are you a father too? Are you really that stupid? Yes I am the father of two loved well cared for children. I am one of 6 children my mother and father raised with love. My parents were ready to provide me with a college education hut I decided to do it my way, see some of the world, and serve my country then get some college. I provided my children with college education. A responsible man doesn't father a child he doesn't want. Especially with a slut he would never marry. Making a living is a full time job, as is raising a child. With a partner to share child care, and earning a income, helps a lot. But I agree anyone not able or willing to raise a child, should not have any. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
"Robert" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:41:26 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:0jESh.49601$aG1.49335@pd7urf3no... "DB" wrote in message t... "teachrmama" wrote in Ohm grow up! What a fool. Any woman who cannot support a child should keep her panties on and herlegs together. Many who are 35 and older and should know better too! Make that a second stupid man who thinks that women can get pregnant by themselves. Men are in it too and to say that men are not responsible for pregnancies are like saying that Moon are made of blue cheese. Snap out of it! Men and women are both equally responsible for this! Then why are men and women not held equally responsible by the system? Because the system has been run by men for centuries. And many women still vote for men that despise them. Huh? Why would men that despise women set up and continue a system that is slanted in favor of women? |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
"Robert" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 16:42:45 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:56:02 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "elizabeth" wrote in message legroups.com... On Apr 8, 7:37 pm, "Gini" wrote: And you know this how? Come to think of it, I don't know any women who have died from a tubal. Heh, perhaps I'm running with a different crowd. OK, we're using Gina Knows Proof. The only cases that matter are the women Gina Knows. I know of women who have died and have had very, very serious complications from pills and IUDs. Um--after they died from their tubals, they STILL had very, very serious complications from pills and IUDs?? That really IS bad!! Are you really stupid? Or do you think everyone else is? Women have died from complications from a tubal. Women have had complications from pills, and IUDS, decided on a tubal and died. Liz is correct, any man that doesn't want to father a child and be a real daddy, should get his cords clipped. Far safer than a tubal for a woman. Any man that doesn't want to get a STD, needs to use a condom, unless he has absolute faith in his partner. The father of any child should support that child, even if he has to be put in a slave labor condition. Men can prevent pregnancy in the woman he is taking pleasure from. Ohm grow up! What a fool. Any woman who cannot support a child should keep her panties on and herlegs together. You grow up, a responsible man doesn't father a child. Especially with a slut he would never marry. Making a living is a full time job, as is raising a child. With a partner to share child care, and earning a income, helps a lot. Nonsense! There are many, many working parents who manage to earn a living and raise children. Saying that the woman gets to be the child-rearer and the man must be the wage earner is just silly. But I agree anyone not able or willing to raise a child, should not become a parent, whether male or female. Absolutely. |
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"Robert" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:26:27 -0700, "Chris" wrote: Ohm grow up! What a fool. Any woman who cannot support a child should keep her panties on and herlegs together. You grow up, a responsible man doesn't father a child. Guess YOUR father wasn't responsible. Are you a father too? Are you really that stupid? Yes I am the father of two loved well cared for children. I am one of 6 children my mother and father raised with love. My parents were ready to provide me with a college education hut I decided to do it my way, see some of the world, and serve my country then get some college. I provided my children with college education. A responsible man doesn't father a child he doesn't want. And a responsible woman does not bring into this world a child she has no intention of supporting. |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
"Paul Anderson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:11:16 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: .... ... I don't believe that men should have the option of running around having sex, creating children, and moving on-- It is *impossible* for men to create children. It can be argued that men are responsible for women getting pregnant (if you assume that the woman is a mindless cow who doesn't realise having sex means having a chance of getting pregnant) -- but that is all men are capable of doing. Once a woman is pregnant she, and only she, is the one who creates the child. It is her body and she is the only one with the choice as to whether or not a child will be created (assuming she has a mental age greater than six years old.) but I also don't believe that women should bhave the option of bringing child after child into the world with no intention of ever supporting them-- Women always have had that option. They only way to take it away from women is to have forced abortions -- to make unauthorized pregnancy a crime. and expecting taxpayers to pick up the slack if they can't stick the man with the expenses. If you want to know what is behind anything, just follow the money. We need a better solution--this one obviously is not working. Works a lot better than anything else we've tried. What is your solution? 50/50 joint custody, and each parent supports the child when the child is with them. No money changes hands. |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
"Robert" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 22:44:56 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:QqFSh.49735$aG1.1123@pd7urf3no... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:5lESh.49646$6m4.34588@pd7urf1no... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Robert" wrote in message ... Are you really stupid? Or do you think everyone else is? Women have died from complications from a tubal. Women have had complications from pills, and IUDS, decided on a tubal and died. Liz is correct, any man that doesn't want to father a child and be a real daddy, should get his cords clipped. Far safer than a tubal for a woman. Any man that doesn't want to get a STD, needs to use a condom, unless he has absolute faith in his partner. The father of any child should support that child, even if he has to be put in a slave labor condition. Men can prevent pregnancy in the woman he is taking pleasure from. My body. My choice. Women have no right to tell men what they should do regarding their bodies. If a man makes a poor choice, women should be held financially responsible for my choice just as men are held financially responsible when women make unilateral choices. I can't wait for the Equal Rights Amendment to come up again. Here's the Lesson Number One: Only women can get pregnant, not men. Lesson Number Two: Men cannot get pregnant. Lesson Number Three: If a man gets pregnant, then by all means, he can do whatever he wants to do. But if a woman gets pregnant, only she can make the decision without "the help of a darling man". Lesson Number Four: There are many, many unwanted children in this world. Are you sure you wanted to add more to the unwanted population, men? Why not make 50/50 joint custody, with each parent supporting the child while the child is with them the norm? That would solve all problems, right? What if the mother doesn't want the child to start with hm? For an example. after the child birth, the mother would refuse to look at or hold the child. When it is the time to leave, the mother leaves without the child. Now what would the solution be? Gee, how about, if thefather wants the child, MOM has to pay child support until the child is 18. How does that sound to you? Because that is how men are treated now. Sound fair? That's how it works, except Mom gets custody in most cases, and percentage wise there are more deadbeat moms than Dads. Very true. Except the question was about a mom who wanted to walk away from the child at birth. |
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"Robert" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:49:54 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "CafeWriter" wrote in message news:5lESh.49646$6m4.34588@pd7urf1no... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Robert" wrote in message ... Are you really stupid? Or do you think everyone else is? Women have died from complications from a tubal. Women have had complications from pills, and IUDS, decided on a tubal and died. Liz is correct, any man that doesn't want to father a child and be a real daddy, should get his cords clipped. Far safer than a tubal for a woman. Any man that doesn't want to get a STD, needs to use a condom, unless he has absolute faith in his partner. The father of any child should support that child, even if he has to be put in a slave labor condition. Men can prevent pregnancy in the woman he is taking pleasure from. My body. My choice. Women have no right to tell men what they should do regarding their bodies. If a man makes a poor choice, women should be held financially responsible for my choice just as men are held financially responsible when women make unilateral choices. I can't wait for the Equal Rights Amendment to come up again. Here's the Lesson Number One: Only women can get pregnant, not men. Lesson Number Two: Men cannot get pregnant. Lesson Number Three: If a man gets pregnant, then by all means, he can do whatever he wants to do. But if a woman gets pregnant, only she can make the decision without "the help of a darling man". Lesson Number Four: There are many, many unwanted children in this world. Are you sure you wanted to add more to the unwanted population, men? Why not make 50/50 joint custody, with each parent supporting the child while the child is with them the norm? That would solve all problems, right? Many in prison are parents, many single parents are widowed. Many parents are drug addicts. And many are self centered, idiots that simply live for the moment. This is true of both men and women. Let's treat them both the same. |
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Who has the ultimate right to choose?
"Robert" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 16:45:28 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:58:05 -0700, "teachrmama" wrote: "Gini" wrote in message news:qwiSh.933$Lm.323@trndny05... "elizabeth" wrote On Apr 8, 7:37 pm, "Gini" wrote: "elizabeth" wrote On Apr 8, 7:21 pm, "Gini" wrote: "elizabeth" wrote ................. Letting your child live in poverty means you are the sort of heartless asshole who should be castrated, because we don't need more irresponsible assholes breeding children that the rest of society must support. == Indeed. Sterilize all welfare women of childbearing age. As long as you sterilize all the men impregnating them, fine. == G So, how is it that a man would impregnate a sterilized woman? == .......................... no man has ever died from a vasectomy. == And you know this how? Come to think of it, I don't know any women who have died from a tubal. Heh, perhaps I'm running with a different crowd. And more research . . .. Intraoperative complications such as: Unintended, unplanned major surgery or laparotomy due to a problem during the tubal ligation procedure, This complication occurs at a rate of approximately 0.9 per 100 tubal ligation procedures. Blood transfusions A life-threatening event Death Postoperative complications include those that occur intraoperatively, as well as: Febrile morbidity Rehospitalization Death caused by a complication that occurs up to 42 days of your tubal ligation surgery. == You weren't paying attention, hon. Complications (which are extremely rare) do not equal *death from a tubal.* Nice try, though. You are quite entertaining tonight. Now, about the man who impregnates a sterile woman....? With all the complications that can happen to women who don't want children, maybe they could just stop offering it to every man who asks. Surely chastity is still a choice! Chastity is indeed a choice. But not widely popular, taking your self out for movie, dinner and dancing. Course there are always other women. Surely you are not saying that letting a man screw you is the price of dinner and a movie. Eeeeew! What kind of scummy crowd do you run with? Realty check, if a woman doesn't have sex after a few dates, there won't be any more dates. And the men will warn other men she is a teaser. On the other hand men that don't try, will find them selves dateless. Unless they find the teasers. I repeat: Eeeew!! What kind of scummy crowd do you run with? |
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