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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:10:44 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Paula" wrote in I have stated over and over again that I do not have any sympathy for non custodial parents that don't pay their child support or those that enable them, or support them and their views. Why do you want to argue with me when I made this clear from the get go? Show me one father that doesn't want involvement with their child? I can do that ... and while they may be in a minority, they certainly aren't non-existent. Notice I said Father and not sperm donor? And the difference in your definitions are? -- "We're sculpted from youth, the chipping away makes me weary And as for the truth it seems like we just pick a theory" Deconstruction - Indigo Girls |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Paula" wrote in Show me one father that doesn't want involvement with their child? I can do that ... and while they may be in a minority, they certainly aren't non-existent. Notice I said Father and not sperm donor? And the difference in your definitions are? A Father wantsto be with his children, he doesn't need laws to enforce this!!!!!! |
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Child-Support from the NCPs Perspective
"Paula" wrote "Gini" wrote: "Paula" wrote On Oct 12, 9:47 am, "Gini" wrote: This group is for NCPs who have child support issues. That's odd ... since whoever created the group described it as "Raising children in a split family." == Really? When was that? That's what Google provides as the description of the group. == Heh, I know. I was just entertaining you. Google did not create alt.child-support (which has been around since at least 1990--long before Actually, that description has been around for years as well and its been incorrect for years (which is very common for unchartered newsgroups such as acs). Maybe someday someone will figure out how to get it corrected. I am not a "founding member." I've only been here since 1997, but I am one of the longest surviving members. FYI, here's a link to the first postings to alt.child-support, "certifying" that it *is* and always has been pertaining to child support issues from the perspective of noncustodial parents: http://tinyurl.com/2xp4lt |
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Offsite Crossposting to alt.child-support from FamilyKB
"Gini" wrote in message news:W5RPi.339$Oy1.206@trndny08... "Shadow36" wrote .................................. Here's a useful comment for you.. Find someone who knows about usenet and newsgroups, and have them go to alt.child-support. There you will find all the useless drivel thats been posted by you and your *ahem* co-horts. Then you can ask your little family web sire why they are cross posting to here. === Really. Besides, I have not agreed that FamilyKB can use my postings and/or archive them on their site. This is a violation of my intellectual property rights. Looks like it's time to call the net cops. Maybe if they have to settle a few civil claims, they'll stop stealing information from other sites pretending its their own.. I'm guessing that since these FamilyKB crossposters now know that they are violating intellectual property rights by crossposting to alt.child-support from an outside website, they'll figure out how to set their preferences to refrain from doing so. Of course, if they want to subscribe to alt.child-support and post directly via usenet/Google, they are legally free to do so. I sent the following message to the FamilyKB.com webmaster - I am writing to register a complaint about your web site violating its published privacy policy. Your privacy policy states in part: "We do not rent, sell or share your personally identifying information to other companies or individuals, unless we have your consent, are required by law, or have a good faith belief that access, preservation or disclosure of such information is reasonably necessary to protect the rights, property or safety of FamilyKB.com or its users." I have never signed up for your web site. Yet you are sharing personally identifying information about me on your web site without my consent. I demand you remove all messages identifying me personally that you have captured from other sources and republish on your web site and respect my privacy by not sharing my postings and personal information. |
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Offsite Crossposting to alt.child-support from FamilyKB
"Bob Whiteside" wrote "Gini" wrote "Shadow36" wrote .................................. Here's a useful comment for you.. Find someone who knows about usenet and newsgroups, and have them go to alt.child-support. There you will find all the useless drivel thats been posted by you and your *ahem* co-horts. Then you can ask your little family web sire why they are cross posting to here. === Really. Besides, I have not agreed that FamilyKB can use my postings and/or archive them on their site. This is a violation of my intellectual property rights. Looks like it's time to call the net cops. Maybe if they have to settle a few civil claims, they'll stop stealing information from other sites pretending its their own.. I'm guessing that since these FamilyKB crossposters now know that they are violating intellectual property rights by crossposting to alt.child-support from an outside website, they'll figure out how to set their preferences to refrain from doing so. Of course, if they want to subscribe to alt.child-support and post directly via usenet/Google, they are legally free to do so. I sent the following message to the FamilyKB.com webmaster - I am writing to register a complaint about your web site violating its published privacy policy. Your privacy policy states in part: "We do not rent, sell or share your personally identifying information to other companies or individuals, unless we have your consent, are required by law, or have a good faith belief that access, preservation or disclosure of such information is reasonably necessary to protect the rights, property or safety of FamilyKB.com or its users." I have never signed up for your web site. Yet you are sharing personally identifying information about me on your web site without my consent. I demand you remove all messages identifying me personally that you have captured from other sources and republish on your web site and respect my privacy by not sharing my postings and personal information. == Cool! I wonder if that applies to those of us who do not post with "proper" names. It really ****es me off that they do this. Too, I can find no way to prevent my responses to the rogue posts from showing up on their website. If I hadn't been scouting around, I would have never even realized they were doing this. Probably the best thing for all of us to do is killfile all the posts coming from that site. That would take care of it. But still... |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in message news:79954690df1a0@uwe... teachrmama wrote: It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] If anybody has advice on how to collect child support when the absent parent doesn't pay willfully, your comments are welcomed. Have you looked into how CSE really works? It costs money to chase true deadbeats--it's easier to collect each month from those that would pay anyway and "clain" to have collected from deadbeats. Then you numbers look really good, so the system that pays your salary is coontinually funded--and the real deadbeats--the ones that are never going to pay no matter what you do--are still out running around. You don't really think the system cares, do you? Do you have any useful advice? If not, please move along. This post is not to bash custodial parents, child support orders, or the government. I didn't bash anybody. I am simply stating the truth. Anyone who is to difficult to track down and/or to poor to provide support is basically ignored by the system. That is absolute fact. Years ago, NCPs were ordered to send their payments directly to the CP. Wage garnishment was saved for those recalcitrant few who refused to pay. Now every court order (at least in my state) is done by wage garnishment. And the system claims to have collected from all the deadbeats to the tune of however much they collect through garnishment--even if the person would have paid anyway. I kid you not. My sister has a stepson who has fathered at leat 5 children--he has never had a CS judgement against him, becuase he does not work--the women he sleeps with support him. The system doesn't bother with him because it would be a waste of time and money--a d*mn shame, because all the mothers live on public moneys. I am not trying to be negative, but the system is unfair to many NCPs, but it is also unfair to many CPs. That's just the way it is. |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in message news:7995ed6a940f7@uwe... DB wrote: "Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in Do you have any useful advice? I was convicted for not having enough money to pay the child support they wanted! The mother did not receive the money she was looking for. Best advice, get yourself a job and don't depend on the government for anything. I don't depend on the government, I am sorry you have to. I do work. Do you have any advice on how to collect my child support? Do you know where the father is? Do you communicate with him? Does he see his child? Do you send pictures, ;etters, homemade cards from child to father? Very often a healthy relationship with his child is the best way to get a father to contribute to his child's support needs. |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"teachrmama" wrote in I don't depend on the government, I am sorry you have to. I do work. Do you have any advice on how to collect my child support? Do you know where the father is? Do you communicate with him? Does he see his child? Do you send pictures, ;etters, homemade cards from child to father? Very often a healthy relationship with his child is the best way to get a father to contribute to his child's support needs. That's not important, she just wants money! |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in message news:79967be2beb24@uwe... Gini wrote: It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] please move along. == I was here first :-) == I will not play into your attempts to change the subject. == LOL, then I guess you are finished here. This group is for NCPs who have child support issues. I guess you're new to usenet. You might want to educate yourself on usenet etiquette before barging into a group you know nothing about and making a total fool of yourself. BTW, why did you have kids you can't afford? If you didn't want to take care of them, you should have put them up for adoption. Why don't you quit whining about how hard you have it and make yourself more employable? It is a parenting group (Group Name Parenting Parenting), I'm certainly not posting to that group--your posts are coming to the group I am posting to. |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in message news:79973dfb6e943@uwe... Gini wrote: "Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote ................ It is a parenting group (Group Name Parenting Parenting), == No. No it isn't--You are crossposting from a parenting forum. alt.child-support, which is a USENET group dealing with child support issues of NCPs, and it is not connected with YOUR parenting forum. == not strictly for NCP's who don't want to help out the CP's they have kids with, and you do not [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] will take a hint, and go where others fell the way you do == Lady, you are the one crossposting to OUR group! Get a clue and learn the proper way to post on YOUR forum without crossposting your crap to us. If your group is about child support then that is quite possible, but it doesn't mean you have a monopoly on the group, or the right to change a topic, let alone be as rude and nasty as you are being! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY HELPFUL ADVIDE TO GIVE JUST MOVE ON. The problem is that you seem to be the interpreter of what is and is not helpful advice. Why do you feel the need to exercise such power over total strangers whose issues you pour contempt on and don't even try to understand? |
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