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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a childsupport debt?
Illiana wrote:
Gini wrote: It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] please move along. == I was here first :-) == I will not play into your attempts to change the subject. == LOL, then I guess you are finished here. This group is for NCPs who have child support issues. I guess you're new to usenet. You might want to educate yourself on usenet etiquette before barging into a group you know nothing about and making a total fool of yourself. BTW, why did you have kids you can't afford? If you didn't want to take care of them, you should have put them up for adoption. Why don't you quit whining about how hard you have it and make yourself more employable? It is a parenting group (Group Name Parenting Parenting), not strictly for NCP's who don't want to help out the CP's they have kids with, and you do not have the monopoly on it. Uh, no, this is a *Usenet* group that is being appropriated by some website you are frequenting. I thought you worked 70 hours a week, plus Saturdays? -- Sarah Gray |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
Shadow36 wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] false. Move along now; go on to where your rude comments will be appreciated. Here's a useful comment for you.. Find someone who knows about usenet and newsgroups, and have them go to alt.child-support. There you will find all the useless drivel thats been posted by you and your *ahem* co-horts. Then you can ask your little family web sire why they are cross posting to here. So you are implying that all custodial parents are in cahoots? It may just be me, but you sound paranoid. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
Sarah Gray wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] NCP's who don't want to help out the CP's they have kids with, and you do not have the monopoly on it. Uh, no, this is a *Usenet* group that is being appropriated by some website you are frequenting. I thought you worked 70 hours a week, plus Saturdays? So now you are making things up!? What is the purpose of that? Do you even know to whom you are responding to? -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message news:79acd913e32fe@uwe... Shadow36 wrote: It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] false. Move along now; go on to where your rude comments will be appreciated. Here's a useful comment for you.. Find someone who knows about usenet and newsgroups, and have them go to alt.child-support. There you will find all the useless drivel thats been posted by you and your *ahem* co-horts. Then you can ask your little family web sire why they are cross posting to here. So you are implying that all custodial parents are in cahoots? It may just be me, but you sound paranoid. Huh? Where on earth did you come up with that? Where did *all custodial paents* come into this? |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] It is a parenting group (Group Name Parenting Parenting), I'm certainly not posting to that group--your posts are coming to the group I am posting to. Well I am sorry about that, but I am not the one who is in charge of the web domain, and I don’t have control as to where the thread will be posted. It’s nice to know that at least one person with opposite views on child support did not find a need to be blatantly nasty, and bossy. Why would the Gini identity tell me I had to leave, and she was here first? Is she like some type of psycho that thinks she is the only person with the right to post an opposite view? -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Child-Support from the NCPs Perspective
Gini wrote:
"Paula" wrote "Gini" wrote: On Oct 12, 9:47 am, "Gini" wrote: This group is for NCPs who have [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] That's what Google provides as the description of the group. == Heh, I know. I was just entertaining you. Google did not create alt.child-support (which has been around since at least 1990--long before Actually, that description has been around for years as well and its been incorrect for years (which is very common for unchartered newsgroups such as acs). Maybe someday someone will figure out how to get it corrected. I am not a "founding member." I've only been here since 1997, but I am one of the longest surviving members. FYI, here's a link to the first postings to alt.child-support, "certifying" that it *is* and always has been pertaining to child support issues from the perspective of noncustodial parents: http://tinyurl.com/2xp4lt Well, if that is the case, then you could have pointed that out in a mature manner, instead of going all psycho about it. Since you like to be bossy (about something you do not own), and feel you can express your views as you see fit, be a grown-up and extend that courtesy to others. -- Message posted via http://www.familykb.com |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] you have any advice on how to collect my child support? Do you know where the father is? Do you communicate with him? Does he see his child? Do you send pictures, ;etters, homemade cards from child to father? Very often a healthy relationship with his child is the best way to get a father to contribute to his child's support needs. I know where the father is, in fact, we are separated, but reside in the same home. He doesn't want to work, or pay his share of the rent. I felt child support was the only way to get him motivated(which it hasn't) to find a job. I am not a complete bitch, but I am tired of supporting him, and I don't have the heart to throw him out. As for him being able to see his child, as I said he lives in our home, but he doesn't show much of an interest in being a father. He has access to my son just as much as I do, so I don't think I need to announce when our child does something creative. All he needs to do is come up out of the basement and involve himself. -- Message posted via http://www.familykb.com |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] to bash custodial parents, child support orders, or the government. I didn't bash anybody. I am simply stating the truth. Anyone who is to difficult to track down and/or to poor to provide support is basically ignored by the system. That is absolute fact. Years ago, NCPs were ordered to send their payments directly to the CP. Wage garnishment was saved for those recalcitrant few who refused to pay. Now every court order (at least in my state) is done by wage garnishment. And the system claims to have collected from all the deadbeats to the tune of however much they collect through garnishment--even if the person would have paid anyway. I kid you not. My sister has a stepson who has fathered at leat 5 children--he has never had a CS judgement against him, becuase he does not work--the women he sleeps with support him. The system doesn't bother with him because it would be a waste of time and money--a d*mn shame, because all the mothers live on public moneys. I am not trying to be negative, but the system is unfair to many NCPs, but it is also unfair to many CPs. That's just the way it is. I never stated that the system is fair. In the case of the stepson, would he not be the type of non custodial parent that the system was designed to enforce? If he is happy living on P.A and not taking care of his kids, is that any better? I see a few responders that think child support is welfare, but it is not. The step son you refer to, his kids, and mothers are on state aid, which is taking from all of us that work. If there was a child support order, true the mothers would still get state aid, but the CSE would try to collect the money from HIM instead of the taxpayers. Are men that father multiple children and not support them just as bad as women who refuse to work and collect welfare? It seems that the cause is the inability for both parents to take responsibility, and the result is welfare. -- Message posted via http://www.familykb.com |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
DB wrote:
"Paula" wrote in Show me one father that doesn't want involvement with their child? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] And the difference in your definitions are? A Father wantsto be with his children, he doesn't need laws to enforce this!!!!!! If that is the case, then why would it even be an issue to pay child-support. If the Non custodial parent (because there are some women that don’t support their children) is willing to support their children that is fine, but I think a lot of custodial parents want a court order for reassurance that that circumstance doesn’t change. When people get angry at each other, it is possible that a non custodial would withhold support for spite, just as a custodial parent may withhold access to the child. I personally think that when two people split up they should get an order of support and a court order for visitation right away, because you never know how another person may act in an attempt to get at another. -- Message posted via http://www.familykb.com |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message news:79aceaaabfc8c@uwe... teachrmama wrote: It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] It is a parenting group (Group Name Parenting Parenting), I'm certainly not posting to that group--your posts are coming to the group I am posting to. Well I am sorry about that, but I am not the one who is in charge of the web domain, and I don't have control as to where the thread will be posted. It's nice to know that at least one person with opposite views on child support did not find a need to be blatantly nasty, and bossy. Why would the Gini identity tell me I had to leave, and she was here first? Is she like some type of psycho that thinks she is the only person with the right to post an opposite view? People posting opposing views have been told to leave this thread or post only comments considered to be in line with the title of the thread. So if you have a thread entitled "Does anybody here have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt," and you are posting to people who have been unfairly damaged by excessive child support, do you really think they should be told that they can only respond if they can give advice on how to get other people damaged the same way they have been? Nobody here caused our posts to be sent to this other group--the one you are apparently posting from. And a lot of the regulars here have been blasted by people posting from your group, have been told that they are deadbeats for even questioning the amount of child support they are ordered to pay, and have been condescended to by other menbers of your group--told that unfair judgements are not made because the judge looks at all the fact--when some of us here know that to be untrue. And, the fact of the matter is, the vast majority of people here do and always have paid their child support. It really is no wonder that several people here have grown short with those who issue insults, then demand we stay on "their" subject on "their" terms. |
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