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When do solids become necessary?
Clisby wrote:
If you want anecdotal evidence: my daughter was formula-fed, and didn't show a lot of interest in solids until she was past a year. She was a picky eater - not in the sense that I couldn't get her to eat a balanced diet, but she liked only certain foods and always wanted them plain. To this day, she would be happy if I served some variation on plain roast chicken; plain rice/potatoes/pasta; plain green vegetable 5 nights a week. However, she has vastly improved over the past year. My son is BF. He started on solids at 5 months and never looked back. He still nurses at 19 months, but the vast majority of his food is solids. I am constantly amazed at how much such a little kid can eat - he's in the 5th percentile for weight and height, and most nights he eats more than I do for dinner. I love anecdotal evidence, not because I think it means much but because I find it interesting so I'm going to throw mine into the pot :-) First, I'd say dh were 'moderates' on the scale of pickiness. We are not adventurous. I was *terribly* picky as a child though. Hunter was exclusively bf for 10 months at his choice. When he started solids he had a very small appetite but ate pretty much anything we served except fruit. He still has a small appetite but he is 4 and so has gotten into a picky phase where how things look or are mixed together matters. Luke was exclusively bf for 6 months. When he started solids he had a very large appetite but would not eat certain things so he was pickier. If he ate a bite of casserole with a pea in it he'd swallow all the rice and manage to spit the one pea back out. He still has a good appetite but is adding a new food now and again. So I vote for personality :-) -- Nikki Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2) |
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When do solids become necessary?
Alphawave wrote in message ...
I've heard plenty of times not to start solids until 6 mos., but something I've wondered about: until roughly what age can a baby continue to grow and thrive on breastmilk alone? After 6 months the chances of a purely BFed baby getting anemia goes up steadily. It is about 10% at 6 months[*], about 25% at 9 months, about 30% at 12 months, and so on... Babies who are purely breast fed without any other food source run a risk of vitamin D problems, as well. The AAP is in the process of updating their guidelines to recommend vitamin D drops for purely BFed babies for this reason. There is also some research about Zinc problem in such kids, but I'm not up on the details. [*] This is why many people start solids at 4 months. Iron fortified cerial starting at 4 months can lower/prevent this 10% anemia rate at 6 months. Anemia is a major reason why fortified cerials are such a popular (and important!) first food. Low iron (anemia) means less oxygen for your baby's growing brain. Joshua Levy |
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"Circe" wrote in message news:kjr9b.36484$n94.572@fed1read04... But beyond that, I'd sure like to know where you got your statistics regarding the pervasiveness of iron-deficiency anemia. Don't do it, Barbara! Nooooooo... don't go there! You'll never win in a debate with Mr. Levy about studies because he misinterprets them and then argues his point based on what he misinterpreted in the first place. You'll spend hours reading links to the studies he has that support his perspective... only to wonder if you both read the same study. Don't do it! You'll be sucked into the J. Levy vortex of study DOOOOOOOOOOOOM. Charlotte, vortex survivor |
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When do solids become necessary?
Alphawave wrote
After 6 months the chances of a purely BFed baby getting anemia goes up steadily. It is about 10% at 6 months[*], about 25% at 9 months, about 30% at 12 months, and so on... Babies who are purely breast fed without any other food source run a risk of vitamin D problems, as well. The AAP is in the process of updating their guidelines to recommend vitamin D drops for purely BFed babies for this reason. However, Vitamin D is based on sunlight (as well as food). If, for example, you live in sunny Southern California, by the time you've walked with your baby from wherever to the car, she's absorbed enough sunlight to get her daily requirement of Vitamin D. If, however, you live somewhere where you don't have constant sunlight (like Toronto on some of its grayer winters), supplementing might be necessary. My ped and I discussed iron yesterday but, since it's almost never not sunny here, Vitamin D isn't a problem. -- Melissa (in Los Angeles) Mum to Elizabeth 4/13/03 |
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When do solids become necessary?
Melissa writes:
: it's almost never not sunny here : -- : Melissa (in Los Angeles) That's right. Rub it in! Larry in Nor Cal. |
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When do solids become necessary?
Oops. Sorry. DD hasn't been sleeping enough (until last night, thank
goodness) so please chalk it up to sleep deprivation. -- Melissa (in Los Angeles) Mum to Elizabeth 4/13/03 "Circe" wrote in message news:%d3ab.40039$n94.32711@fed1read04... "Melissa" wrote in message news:1k2ab.491195$uu5.84262@sccrnsc04... Alphawave wrote After 6 months the chances of a purely BFed baby getting anemia goes up steadily. It is about 10% at 6 months[*], about 25% at 9 months, about 30% at 12 months, and so on... Babies who are purely breast fed without any other food source run a risk of vitamin D problems, as well. The AAP is in the process of updating their guidelines to recommend vitamin D drops for purely BFed babies for this reason. Oooh, careful with your attributes. Mr. Levy wrote that, not Alpha... -- Be well, Barbara (Julian [6], Aurora [4], and Vernon's [18mo] mom) See us at http://photos.yahoo.com/guavaln This week's special at the English Language Butcher Shop: "No parking passed this sign" -- hotel parking lot sign All opinions expressed in this post are well-reasoned and insightful. Needless to say, they are not those of my Internet Service Provider, its other subscribers or lackeys. Anyone who says otherwise is itchin' for a fight. -- with apologies to Michael Feldman |
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Chookie wrote in message ...
In article , (Joshua Levy) wrote: A second, much more recent study, with similar results is this one: DOES FULL BREASTFEEDING FOR SIX MONTHS PLACE U.S. INFANTS AT RISK FOR ANEMIA? Caroline J Chantry, Cynthia R Howard and Peggy Auinger snip On the other hand, I know of four studies done at nine months, and they all show higher anemia rates for purely BF babies: rest snipped And you can all google for my response last time Joshie posted these studies. I am not sure if he has shares in a vitamin pill factory or if this is his preferred method of seeking attention. I stand by my observation that at this stage, there is no unequivocal evidence that exclusive bfing for 6 months is risky for anaemia. I think this interchange shows what happens when you emotionally want to believe on thing, but the data shows something else. The data showing that BFing for 6 months causes a 4x increase (thats 400%) in anemia was in the Chantry study that I posted, and you snipped out! Do you think that because you snipped it out of my posting, it suddenly doesn't exist? If there were, wouldn't the WHO (and recently, Australia and the UK) be a little less pushy about exclusive bfing for the first 6 months? The WHO recommendation is modivated by concern for third-world babies. (Where the chance of death from diarrea dwarfs all other issues.) For them, 6 months is a good minimum. But if you like the WHO recommendation so much, here are some quotes from it. All taken from the summary at the end of the iron section: Human milk is a poor source of iron and cannot be altered by maternal iron supplementation. It is clear that the estimated iron requirements of infants cannot be met by human milk alone at any stage of infancy. The estimated iron intakes of exclusively breastfed infants are insufficient to meet their iron requirements. [both quotes are from page 35 of NUTRIENT ADEQUACY OF EXCLUSIVE BREASTFEEDING FOR THE TERM INFANT DURING THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF LIFE report by the WHO] I should point out that this report is very politically correct, and includes no data on anemia rates. (I guess that would be a little too much information! :-) Joshua Levy |
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