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One-half reports made to AZ CPS fake-ex-spouse, GP's



 
 
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Old November 23rd 03, 09:01 PM
Kane
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Default One-half reports made to AZ CPS fake-ex-spouse, GP's

(Greg Hanson) wrote in message om...
grandparents unhappy about how
grandchildren are being raised.


Bobb wrote
Quite an admission by caseworkers. Could it be there
is a new breed or reformed thinking? For a while it
seemed social workers were only to gleeful to hear
from relatives.


I'm not surprised it is so, but I am surprised that
anybody in CPS would admit it and imply most are bogus.


I would be doubley suprized should they admit it to you. I, on the
other hand, behaving in a respectful manner, can easily - as I have
done since 1976 - sneedle all kinds of useful information from them.

Workers consistently since I have been ingaged with the system from
`76 have told me again and again what you no-nuttins try to force out
of them with your stupidity and your abusive mindsets toward children.

They know perfectly well anything they share with you you'll
immediately either fail to understand and misuse, or you'll twist it
to mean something it doesn't.

I suspect that pandering to grandparents is a big deal
in states with a larger senior population.


Awwww....that side of your head still throbbing, is it? Awwwwww.

Ask The Plant if the child should be, since you block it from being
with it's mother, placed with G'parents or stranger foster parents.
You people are soooo inconsistent. Bunch of dipwads that can't get out
of your own way...though in your case that is the point...to keep the
mother to yourself and screw over the child.

I don't know why, but Iowa has a high senior population.
Nothing like FL and AZ but important nonetheless.


Yep. ELDER'S RULE.....R R R R R R

Troxel v Granville shot down a big attempt to
establish the ability of grandparents to overrule
parental rights.


I dunno, I heard all it really resulted in was more G'p's joinin' up
and together workin' on shootin' down the various states. You need to
get out more.

You can bet that this has in itself resulted in
more false accusations by grandparents.


You'd be amazed at how many children's lives have been saved by their
grandparents from dip****s such as you.

If kids are in foster care, grandparents suddenly
get visitation rights.


It's not for the grandparents stupid. See what I mean about a little
information being misused and twisted.

Now quick...who would the visitation most likely benefit?

There now see. That was easy...or did you answer "Fluffy and Spot"?

Dumb ass child abusing nasty little twits, the lot of you.


Kane
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Old November 24th 03, 09:45 AM
Greg Hanson
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Default One-half reports made to AZ CPS fake-ex-spouse, GP's

Dumb ass child abusing nasty little twits, the lot of you.
Kane! Impulse control!
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Old November 24th 03, 08:50 PM
Kane
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On 24 Nov 2003 15:34:24 GMT, (Fern5827) wrote:

And yet we fully fund investigating such dreck? And OTOH, CPS, DES

is
continually crying poor mouth, while implementing NO STEPS TO

ELMINATE OR CURB
FALSE REPORTING of child abuse or neglect.


This is too funny. You refute what you claim by what you cut and paste
below. The only steps they can legally take, without wasting tons of
taxpayer money, is to report to the proper authorities who can.

Now tell us what YOU steps you think CPS could take to eliminate or
curb false reporting? I mean without an incursion on the civil rights
of the caller?

Weather getting cold there? Going Dormant are we then? RRRRR

Leaves all fallen? Sap collecting in your Roots?

Poison Ivy, you are toooooo...much.

See my comments below:




Subject: One-half reports made to AZ CPS fake-ex-spouse, GP's
From:
(Fern5827)
Date: 11/21/2003 11:45 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

http://www.azcentral.com

House panel OKs bill

on false reports to CPS


PHOENIX - A bill that would make it a crime to knowingly file a false

report to
Child Protective Services was approved Thursday by the House Human

Services
Committee.

Some caseworkers say as many as half of the reports made to CPS are

believed to
be fake, usually filed by vindictive spouses embroiled in child

custody cases
and grandparents unhappy about how grandchildren are being raised.

The Senate Appropriations Committee approved a similar provision,

also adding
language that would allow a judge to consider whether a parent made a

false
report to CPS when deciding custody.

The bills would carry a penalty of up to six months in jail and a

fine of up to
$2,500.

Filing a false child-abuse report to police already is a Class 1

misdemeanor,
according to state law. But the statute does not specifically include

false
reports made to CPS as being illegal.

DESCRIPTORS; DES, ARIZONA, FOSTER CARE, KINSHIP CARE, ASFA, CAPTA,

ACCOUNTANCY,
FAMILY LAW

Comment: about 6 years ago in CT, a Mom and her 4 children (mixed

race) were
the targets of numerous, false reports made to DCF about her family.

She was
pretty much aware of who had filed them, but since it was not a

misdemeanor to
do such, the reporter had NOTHING TO LOSE by making them.


Then the law needs to change. CPS is not authorized to pursue false
reporting abuses..it has NO mandate for that.

How about if CPS cries all the time about how overworked they are,


They are.

that they
put some muscle and teeth behind their complaining and put some

aversives

What aversives?

toward those folks who file false reports?


By what or on whose authority may they do that?

Really, when you think about it--they summon almost as much dollars

and money
as those who call in false bomb threats.


Please put your Twigs together and explain that statement. It looks
wonderfully inflammatory and emotionally jacked up, but seems to be
complete disconnect from end to end.

I would like to see CPS endorse such statutes in each state. Until

then, they
are just endeavoring to pad their own positions.


The instant they made a public announcement to that effect YOU and
your anti CPS cronies would, in predictable kneejerk twitches, come
back with accusations of wasting the taxpayers money and wanting yet
MORE.

CPS is not mandated, nor authorized, to charge and enforce fraud
charges. Never been, never will be.

On the other hand you are a giantic fraud yourself, now aren't you?

Tell us how much you get paid to post year after year of dribbling
Sap.

Kane
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Old November 25th 03, 01:55 PM
Greg Hanson
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Default One-half reports made to AZ CPS fake-ex-spouse, GP's

Kane wrote
Workers consistently since I have been ingaged with the system from
`76 have told me again and again what you no-nuttins try to force out
of them with your stupidity and your abusive mindsets toward children.

They know perfectly well anything they share with you you'll
immediately either fail to understand and misuse, or you'll twist it
to mean something it doesn't.


Kinda like how some states used to withhold the CPS
caseworker manual until the Feds forced them to make it available?

""Because bad parents could use it to ""get around"" the system.""

This demonstrates how terribly unconstitutional the twits
at CPS really are. They would use a system to grind up
families, presuming that of course that they never make
mistakes, and God Forbid the family might actually learn
how the very same system is supposed to work.

How to use a complicated confused system to screw families.
Just ensure that families can't figure out the rules.
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Old November 26th 03, 08:20 PM
Kane
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Default One-half reports made to AZ CPS fake-ex-spouse, GP's

(Greg Hanson) wrote in message . com...
Kane
two years or more to squeeze more of the
story out of him?


What "more" are you talking about?


You can't remember your own recent posts in response to questions by
other posters? That's odd.

Occurrances can't be reported before they take place.
Even some realizations didn't occur for some time.


You mean to say you are giving us a blow by blow of the progress of
the child and mother's case close to real time?

I have been very open, considering the situation.


Considering the situation that you have some concern about being
caught, and that even your buddies here might be having second
thoughts about you and know your "fiance" might just tip her off to
what is going on here and your complicity in the loss of her child?

On the other hand,
You admit to a "Whore of the court" status of
some kind, but you conceal just
how you get paid and for what exactly.


If I'm in opposition to some of the practicies of CPS that makes me a
"Whore of the court"? How does that work in your twisted mind,
Greegor?

Am I a "Whore of the court" because I won't jump aboard your little
scooter to hell you are tempting others to ride with you?

That I want families to get OFF the bull**** you and your cronies post
so the WON'T lose their children to those same courts?

That I want them to focus on what is proven to work, that Dan has
shared, that even one of the REAL whores of the court, an attorney,
made plain to you do work?

Is that what makes me a "Whore of the court," you ass sitting mother
suckin' child abusing little twit?

Kane
 




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