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Murray Straus, GURU of the anti-spanking zealots!
Carlson LaVonne wrote:
Kane, The closest things to gurus I've had would have to be my sixth grade teacher and one of my Ph.D. advisors. Both believed in me, listened to me, and encouraged me to pursue my goals. They were Caucasian, so I suppose they could be considered "lily white" -- if that's what Greegor means. But since they were human beings, they were far from perfect. I've met Murray Straus on several occassions. He's a kind and gentle man with a brilliant mind, but I doubt he's perfect. I'm sure he would agree with me. Your post regarding Murray Straus' birthday certainly did set off a nerve for Greegor, didn't it? The normal state for bigots. Frankly I consider them very dangerous and foolish people, but what are yah gonna do...free speech and all. 0:- LaVonne 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: Kane wrote Neither are politically inclined. Both are long time academics with respectable and reputable methods and professional recognition. All of your GURUs are lily white I don't have any Gurus. The closest I can think of was an Okinawan man that kind of took me under his wing when I was a teen. Boxer, jockey, race horse trainer, and a man of considerable character. Spent his teens in the WWII internment camps (Okinawans are 'Japanese'). I learned, among other things, fine gardening from him. And an esoteric form of Martial Arts then, that became quite popular world wide later. He was not, as I recall, lily white. and perfect of course! No one I've ever met is perfect. Are you assuming I think someone is? Let nothing cramp that cultic mindset. I'm sorry you have the needs that you do, and that they are apparently unmet. But, that's how life goes. Be good. -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
LaVonne wrote
You have an extremely poor understanding of research, Greegor. LaVonne Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne? I've got a hypothesis. |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
Greegor wrote:
LaVonne wrote You have an extremely poor understanding of research, Greegor. LaVonne Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne? I've got a hypothesis. You have a research modality you'd like to share with us? And of course you are aware of the ethical constraints on research wherein you cannot do it on those who do not volunteer to be subject? You may observe of course, and develop a hypothesis thereby. Have you one? Can you support it logically and with corroborating research that agrees with your hypothesis? Let us know the result. I'm very curious if you can do this. It might change my opinion of you. Not that that matters. In the spirit of academic brotherhood I cannot fail to now offer my own supporting evidence for my hypothesis: http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz...y/paranoia.jsp Definition Paranoia is an unfounded or exaggerated distrust of others, sometimes reaching delusional proportions. Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are "out to get them." Description Paranoid perceptions and behavior may appear as features of a number of mental illnesses, including depression and dementia, but are most prominent in three types of psychological disorders: paranoid schizophrenia, delusional disorder (persecutory type), and paranoid personality disorder (PPD). Individuals with paranoid schizophrenia and persecutory delusional disorder experience what is known as persecutory delusions: an irrational, yet unshakable, belief that someone is plotting against them. Persecutory delusions in paranoid schizophrenia are bizarre, sometimes grandiose, and often accompanied by auditory hallucinations. Delusions experienced by individuals with delusional disorder are more plausible than those experienced by paranoid schizophrenics; not bizarre, though still unjustified. Individuals with delusional disorder may seem offbeat or quirky rather than mentally ill, and, as such, may never seek treatment. Persons with paranoid personality disorder tend to be self-centered, self-important, defensive, and emotionally distant. Their paranoia manifests itself in constant suspicions rather than full-blown delusions. The disorder often impedes social and personal relationships and career advancement. Some individuals with PPD are described as "litigious," as they are constantly initiating frivolous law suits. PPD is more common in men than in women, and typically begins in early adulthood. Causes and symptoms The exact cause of paranoia is unknown. Potential causal factors may be genetics, neurological abnormalities, changes in brain chemistry, and stress. Paranoia is also a possible side effect of drug use and abuse (for example, alcohol, marijuana, amphetamines, cocaine, PCP). Acute, or short term, paranoia may occur in some individuals overwhelmed by stress. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM-IV), the diagnostic standard for mental health professionals in the United States, lists the following symptoms for paranoid personality disorder: * suspicious; unfounded suspicions; believes others are plotting against him/her * preoccupied with unsupported doubts about friends or associates * reluctant to confide in others due to a fear that information may be used against him/her * reads negative meanings into innocuous remarks * bears grudges * perceives attacks on his/her reputation that are not clear to others, and is quick to counterattack * maintains unfounded suspicions regarding the fidelity of a spouse or significant other Diagnosis Patients with paranoid symptoms should undergo a thorough physical examination and patient history to rule out possible organic causes (such as dementia) or environmental causes (such as extreme stress). If a psychological cause is suspected, a psychologist will conduct an interview with the patient and may administer one of several clinical inventories, or tests, to evaluate mental status. Treatment Paranoia that is symptomatic of paranoid schizophrenia, delusional disorder, or paranoid personality disorder should be treated by a psychologist and/or psychiatrist. Antipsychotic medication such as thioridazine (Mellaril), haloperidol (Haldol), chlorpromazine (Thorazine), clozapine (Clozaril), or risperidone (Risperdal) may be prescribed, and cognitive therapy or psychotherapy may be employed to help the patient cope with their paranoia and/or persecutory delusions. Antipsychotic medication, however, is of uncertain benefit to individuals with paranoid personality disorder and may pose long-term risks. If an underlying condition, such as depression or drug abuse, is found to be triggering the paranoia, an appropriate course of medication and/or psychosocial therapy is employed to treat the primary disorder. Prognosis Because of the inherent mistrust felt by paranoid individuals, they often must be coerced into entering treatment. As unwilling participants, their recovery may be hampered by efforts to sabotage treatment (for example, not taking medication or not being forthcoming with a therapist), a lack of insight into their condition, or the belief that the therapist is plotting against them. Albeit with restricted lifestyles, some patients with PPD or persecutory delusional disorder continue to function in society without treatment. Key Terms Persecutory delusion A fixed, false, and inflexible belief that others are engaging in a plot or plan to harm an individual. For Your Information Books * American Psychiatric Association. Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. 4th ed. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, Inc., 1994. * Maxmen, Jerrold S., and Nicholas G. Ward. "Personality Disorders." In Essential Psychopathology and Its Treatment. 2nd ed. New York: W. W. Norton, 1995. * Siegel, Ronald K. Whispers: The Voices of Paranoia. New York: Crown, 1994. * Maxmen, Jerrold S., and Nicholas G. Ward. "Schizophrenia and Related Disorders." In Essential Psychopathology and Its Treatment. 2nd ed. New York: W. W. Norton, 1995. Periodicals * Manschreck, Theo C. "Delusional Disorder: The Recognition and Management of Paranoia." Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 57, supplement 3 (1996): 32-38. Organizations * American Psychiatric Association. 1400 K Street NW, Washington DC 20005. (888) 357-7924. http://www.psych.org * American Psychological Association (APA). 750 First St. NE, Washington, DC 20002-4242. (202) 336-5700. ttp://www.apa.org * National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI). Colonial Place Three, 2107 Wilson Blvd., Ste. 300, Arlington, VA 22201-3042. (800) 950-6264. http://www.nami.org * National Institute of Mental Health. Mental Health Public Inquiries, 5600 Fishers Lane, Room 15C-05, Rockville, MD 20857. (888) 826-9438. http://www.nimh.nih.gov Source: Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine, Published December, 2002 by the Gale Group The Essay Author is Paula Anne Ford-Martin. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
Greegor wrote:
LaVonne wrote You have an extremely poor understanding of research, Greegor. LaVonne Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne? I've got a hypothesis. Well, enjoy it while you can. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
Kane wrote
You have a research modality you'd like to share with us? And of course you are aware of the ethical constraints on research wherein you cannot do it on those who do not volunteer to be subject? Did that apply to the child victims of the infamous University of Iowa stuttering experiments in the 1950's? |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
Greegor wrote:
Kane wrote You have a research modality you'd like to share with us? And of course you are aware of the ethical constraints on research wherein you cannot do it on those who do not volunteer to be subject? Did that apply to the child victims of the infamous University of Iowa stuttering experiments in the 1950's? I'm presuming that would apply to the very thing I just pointed out. If their parents were not volunteering them then yes, ethical constraints were violated. Though at that time no such limit existed. However, the current ethical limits on research are fairly new, by historical standards. I won't use their behaviors from the 50's to try and judge today's standards. Nor would that excuse you using one of us for an actual experiment (you did say you had a hypothesis and a question presumably in pursuit of research) without our volunteering. Is your question in the nature of research then? We've come a long way. And things are different now. So then, I notice you were so busy creatively, and likely too with your 'research' that you forget to answer my question. It was, "... you have a research modality you'd like to share with us? 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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Greegor has no understanding of research! was Murray Straus,GURU of the anti-spanking zealots!
It truly is ironic that many individuals who later criticized Straus'
work had a clear political agenda....to attempt by any means to discredit his research because they didn't like the results! Regarding Diana Baumrind, like you I was absolutely astounded by her political shift regarding corporal punishment based on such an incredibly poorly designed study that was sharply criticized by researchers and academics, including those individuals that may have personally agreed with her position. To my knowledge, this study never passed peer review for publication in a major research journal. The research designs in her earlier work were extremely sound methodologically. I know she is getting older, and perhaps this contributed to the ridiculously poor study and the sharp contrast between this study and her previous work. LaVonne 0:- wrote: Carlson LaVonne wrote: Greegor wrote: If this guy is so very experienced then why did he screw up the research? He didn't. Researchers should not start with a political agenda. He started, like all researchers, with a research hypothesis for each study he conducted. He then performed a literature review, designed the study, including sample and research methodology, conducted the study, analyzed the data, and discussed the results. Before publication, his research, just like all research, was subjected to a thorough peer review process. What you are considering a political agenda is actually a hypothesis that was tested through design and statistical analysis. The analysis either supports, does not support, or partially supports any hypothesis. In Straus's case, his research either supported or partially supported his hypothesis Finkelhor also. You have an extremely poor understanding of research, Greegor. LaVonne More amazing is that those that later criticized his work DID come with a political agenda.... a very clear one. And NO research to back their claim his was flawed. I saw his response as quietly and politely dismissive of gnat-like buzzing by little agenda pressing political hacks. What has truly shocked me is the professional career shift of Ms Baumrind and what appears to me to be a serious loss of objectivity she once seemed so very much in command of in her work. Best, Kane Lest they end up like Herr Doktor Professor Sir Roy Meadows... and his sicofant. 0:- wrote: This page has been printed from the following URL: http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/0...or-murray.html 7-27-2006 PHOTO Surrounded by family and friends, Murray Straus, founder of the University of New Hampshire Family Research Lab, makes his way to the Sheraton Harborside ballroom to celebrate his 80th birthday on Monday evening in Portsmouth. Photo by Jamie Cohen A real family man By Emily Aronson PORTSMOUTH -- He changed the way people think about family violence, influenced generations of sociologists all over the world and has authored more than 200 articles. And at 80 years old, Murray Straus -- founder of the University of New Hampshire's Family Research Laboratory -- has no plans to slow down. In fact, it's his work that Straus said has kept him young at heart. "I just love discovering new things, love to do research, love to teach my classes. It's not work; it's what I love to do," Straus said Monday, at his birthday party during a family violence research conference at the Sheraton Harborside Hotel. Wearing a white suit, a red rose in his lapel and a warm smile, Straus greeted colleagues, former students, friends and family -- some of whom traveled from as far as the Netherlands and Australia to attend the event. Many remarked how good Straus looks for his age. David Finkelhor, co-director of the Family Research Laboratory, showed a picture of Murray's passport during a slideshow to prove that he was born in 1926. Straus arrived at UNH in 1968 and dedicated his research to family violence and its relationship to violence in the larger society, a cornerstone of a new field of sociology. He co-authored numerous publications about spousal and child abuse -- once thought of as private matters -- including a book about the harmful effects of spanking children. His complete resumé posted online takes up a whopping 24 pages. "It's not true that Murray is married to his job," Finkelhor told guests. "We've never seen him kiss his computer. His appointment book, maybe, but it was just paternal." Kathy Kendall-Tackett, an associate professor of psychology at UNH, called Straus a wonderful scholar and mentor. "His attitude for his work and his passion is just contagious," she said. "He's always so generous with his time and his praise with students." Kersti Yllo, a former student and sociology professor at Wheaton College, thanked Straus as a feminist for his research in the 1970s about sexual inequality and its impact on domestic violence. She also thanked him as a mother for his work against corporal punishment. "My children's SAT scores are apparently higher because I held back," she said as the room broke out in laughter. Straus' wife, Dorothy, said it was great to see how many people came to honor her husband, but assured that the decades of accomplishments and accolades haven't gone to his head. "My grandchildren say things like "he's just Murray to us,'" Dorothy said. This page has been printed from the following URL: http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/0...or-murray.html Copyright 1999 - 2004 Seacoast Newspapers, a division of Ottaway Newspapers Inc., all rights reserved. |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
Greegor wrote: LaVonne wrote You have an extremely poor understanding of research, Greegor. LaVonne Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne? I've got a hypothesis. Then by all means, post the hypotheses. Be sure to include both the research hypothesis and the null hypothesis. Identify how your sample will be selected, (how the sample is selected and the appropriate sample size is very important to the generalizability and integrity of your results.) Describe the methodology you will use, including the statistical analysis and why this is appropriate for the particular research study you are proposing. I'll keep and eye on the thread so I don't miss your research design when you have it worked up and time to respond. LaVonne |
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Do YOU believe you were abused as a child, LaVonne?
0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: Kane wrote You have a research modality you'd like to share with us? And of course you are aware of the ethical constraints on research wherein you cannot do it on those who do not volunteer to be subject? Did that apply to the child victims of the infamous University of Iowa stuttering experiments in the 1950's? I'm presuming that would apply to the very thing I just pointed out. If their parents were not volunteering them then yes, ethical constraints were violated. Though at that time no such limit existed. However, the current ethical limits on research are fairly new, by historical standards. You are correct, Kane. Ethical limits have come a long way since the 1950's, in part due to past nonconsensual and exploitive research using human subjects. All proposal research from Universities involving human subjects must be approved by a Human Subjects Committee, which is not an easy process if any part of the research looks even slightly questionable. Parents may give consent for minor children to participate in approved research. I won't use their behaviors from the 50's to try and judge today's standards. Nor would that excuse you using one of us for an actual experiment (you did say you had a hypothesis and a question presumably in pursuit of research) without our volunteering. Is your question in the nature of research then? Not only would using one nonconsensual person in pursuit of research be illegal and unethical, but a sample size of one or two is not a research study. A sample size of one or two would be a case study, and the parameters would be completely different. I'm anxious to see Greegor's reseaarch design. LaVonne We've come a long way. And things are different now. So then, I notice you were so busy creatively, and likely too with your 'research' that you forget to answer my question. It was, "... you have a research modality you'd like to share with us? 0:- |
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Murray Straus, GURU of the anti-spanking zealots!
0:- wrote: Carlson LaVonne wrote: Kane, The closest things to gurus I've had would have to be my sixth grade teacher and one of my Ph.D. advisors. Both believed in me, listened to me, and encouraged me to pursue my goals. They were Caucasian, so I suppose they could be considered "lily white" -- if that's what Greegor means. But since they were human beings, they were far from perfect. I've met Murray Straus on several occassions. He's a kind and gentle man with a brilliant mind, but I doubt he's perfect. I'm sure he would agree with me. Your post regarding Murray Straus' birthday certainly did set off a nerve for Greegor, didn't it? The normal state for bigots. Frankly I consider them very dangerous and foolish people, but what are yah gonna do...free speech and all. 0:- I suppose they are dangerous. I know they engage in foolish behavior. But hey, I'm all for free speech. Based on several of my recent posts, I received an email, the first in a long time, from an individual who never felt right about spanking, has lurked on this ng for apparently a couple of years, and asked me for more information on child development and how to parent without spanking. This is called "remembering the goal." Sometimes, good things happen. LaVonne LaVonne 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: Kane wrote Neither are politically inclined. Both are long time academics with respectable and reputable methods and professional recognition. All of your GURUs are lily white I don't have any Gurus. The closest I can think of was an Okinawan man that kind of took me under his wing when I was a teen. Boxer, jockey, race horse trainer, and a man of considerable character. Spent his teens in the WWII internment camps (Okinawans are 'Japanese'). I learned, among other things, fine gardening from him. And an esoteric form of Martial Arts then, that became quite popular world wide later. He was not, as I recall, lily white. and perfect of course! No one I've ever met is perfect. Are you assuming I think someone is? Let nothing cramp that cultic mindset. I'm sorry you have the needs that you do, and that they are apparently unmet. But, that's how life goes. Be good. |
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