Man shoots at noisy teenagers, killing one

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Doan wrote:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, R. Steve Walz wrote:

jaybird wrote:

I remember getting paddled by the gym teacher for fighting in 5th grade. I
didn't fight anymore.

jaybird
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I told my gym teacher in 9th grade that I had defended myself, and
that if he touched me that I'd kill him then, on the spot, if I could,
or later, by surprise from behind, and without any question. I was
reknown for being a VERY serious character, and I said it in a manner
that erased any doubt on his part. He didn't touch me.

So much for the theory that spanking teaches violence. Remember, Steve
Walz were "never spanked"!

Doan
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The defense of one's freedom and right to not be bullied is justice,
it is not illicit coercion by violence.

Violence in this thread must be understood to mean illicit violence.
Steve

Violence is violence! ;-)

Doan

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, toto wrote:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 06:53:06 -0800, Doan wrote:

So much for the theory that spanking teaches violence. Remember, Steve
Walz were "never spanked"!

Note that Jaybird is a cop. Cops are violent much of the time. It's
just sanctioned by society because it is against violent criminals.

Spanking did teach him that violence is ok as long as it comes from
an authority, so he became an authority and can now indulge in
justified violence against criminals.

And you are telling me that cops in non-spanking countries don't use
violence??? Logic and the anti-spanking zealotS, are they mutually
exclusive? ;-)

Doan

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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You're the authoritarian bigot, that fits with Nazi, not my defense
of Equality and the People's Majority Democracy.

You defend it until it gets to a point that it includes something that you
don't like - then you just threaten (to kill, not just get even) and cuss
like a $10 whore.

Steve

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

I remember getting paddled by the gym teacher for fighting
in
5th
grade.
I
didn't fight anymore.

jaybird
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I told my gym teacher in 9th grade that I had defended myself,
and
that if he touched me that I'd kill him then, on the spot, if
I
could,
or later, by surprise from behind, and without any question. I
was
reknown for being a VERY serious character, and I said it in a
manner
that erased any doubt on his part. He didn't touch me.

Why were you such a ****ing squeaking sniveling little **** of
a
coward? Were you beaten as a young child?

I knew I had done wrong and I accepted responsibility for it. I
never
did
it again.
jaybird
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Then you were an abusive little ****. But violence against
children
instigates sufficient hatred to justify the victim's belief that
even
if they were wrong the punishment was unfair, making THEM the
victim,
and justifying their original violence. This is part of the reason
that you now wish to abuse children. You're a bully/victim.
Steve

No, I learned a lesson.
jaybird
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No, you wussed out and decided to beat up smaller targets for your
PAY BACK!! That's ALL!
Steve

I've never beaten up a smaller target...

jaybird
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You cop-**** beat up on 120 pound winos. Get ****ing real!

What? If you're going to post, even with profanity, at least speak English.

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jaybird
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I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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toto wrote:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 06:53:06 -0800, Doan wrote:

So much for the theory that spanking teaches violence. Remember,
Steve
Walz were "never spanked"!

Note that Jaybird is a cop. Cops are violent much of the time.
It's
just sanctioned by society because it is against violent criminals.

Spanking did teach him that violence is ok as long as it comes from
an authority, so he became an authority and can now indulge in
justified violence against criminals.

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Dorothy
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It made him seek redress of his abuse and humiliation as a child by
choosing weaker targets for his revenge. Typical of abused children
that they want to become pathological bullies as a vocation! It's
the insecure immature hall-monitor mentality.
Steve

If I bullied people for _no reason_ I'd be out of a job.

jaybird
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Get real, we see it constantly!

You only see the ones that make the headlines, but even those are for a
reason. We're talking about no reason here.

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jaybird
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I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"toto" wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 06:53:06 -0800, Doan wrote:

So much for the theory that spanking teaches violence. Remember,
Steve
Walz were "never spanked"!

Note that Jaybird is a cop. Cops are violent much of the time. It's
just sanctioned by society because it is against violent criminals.

You're kidding right? Cops are only violent about 2% of the time.


Spanking did teach him that violence is ok as long as it comes from
an authority, so he became an authority and can now indulge in
justified violence against criminals.

Well that's true, but only as authorized by law.

)

(I don't even have the slightest notion that you'd comprehend the use of
force levels that cops adhere to so I'm not even going to go there).

jaybird
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The rest of the time its donuts and sharing tricks on the best ways
to humiliate and intimidate others.

I prefer sprinkles although the chocolate covered ones are pretty good too
as long as you have a good cup of free coffee in the other hand.

What a jackass.

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jaybird
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I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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jaybird wrote:

I remember getting paddled by the gym teacher for fighting in
5th
grade.
I
didn't fight anymore.

jaybird
----------------
I told my gym teacher in 9th grade that I had defended myself, and
that if he touched me that I'd kill him then, on the spot, if I
could,
or later, by surprise from behind, and without any question. I was
reknown for being a VERY serious character, and I said it in a
manner
that erased any doubt on his part. He didn't touch me.

Hell yeah, I'd be scared of you too. Which ward was that in?

jaybird
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The 9th grade, public school, you ridiculous piece of ****.
Steve

Hehe... I expected that. Your profanity gives you _SO MUCH_
credibility.
jaybird
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Only isolated Xtian moron altar-boys think that profanity
condemns one's credibility! How stupid you are!
Steve

But mature adult conversation must only be for people who have no idea what
they're talking about. I see now, thanks.

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jaybird
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I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.

dragonlady wrote:

In article ,
"R. Steve Walz" wrote:

Fighting is not a good way to decide things, but it is the ONLY way
to defeat those who would use force against the rest of us.
Steve

Not according to Gandhi or King or Jesus or quite a number of other
leaders.
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Ghandi agreed that Nazi Germany could NOT have been defeated by his
methods, and Jesus is intentionally misinterpreted to the masses and
has been for thousands of years by the rich nobility who controlled
all the priests. As for King, his people are still in bondage, and
anyway, he was following what is likely an intentionally misinterpreted
examplar, (Jesus).


(Yes, I know, they all died in the end -- but their ideas did
not, nor did all of their followers.)

It may be the way YOU prefer. It is not the ONLY way.
meh
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Evil will prevail if you don't fight fire with justified fire.
The only thing martyrs do is make good propaganda, not victory.

They both have their place, but keep them both in their proper
place. Martyrdom doesn't make someone right, just dead.
Steve

Steve Furbish wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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You're the authoritarian bigot, that fits with Nazi, not my defense
of Equality and the People's Majority Democracy.

You defend it until it gets to a point that it includes something
that you don't like -
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Nonsense, you know what I defend, and why. Quit your desperate lies!!


then you just threaten (to kill, not just get even) and cuss
like a $10 whore.
Steve
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You mean your momma?
Steve

Doan wrote:

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Doan wrote:

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Doan wrote:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, toto wrote:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 06:53:06 -0800, Doan wrote:

So much for the theory that spanking teaches violence. Remember, Steve
Walz were "never spanked"!

Note that Jaybird is a cop. Cops are violent much of the time. It's
just sanctioned by society because it is against violent criminals.

LOL! Nope. It is NECESSARY!

Spanking did teach him that violence is ok as long as it comes from
an authority, so he became an authority and can now indulge in
justified violence against criminals.


So who taught Steve Walz?

Doan
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Violence against abusers is not illicit or reprehensible.
Violence BY abusers IS!
Steve

Non sequitor! The question is WHO TAUGHT YOU VIOLENCE, stupid?

Doan
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Nobody taught me to respond irrationally like you insecure immature
little **** who were beaten and bullied by your parents. The use of
violence like mine can be sensible and for Good causes, or it can be
nonsense and sick opportunism like you bullied little *******s, and
for Evil!
Steve

So it is in your nature! ;-) Oops more "****" spewing out of your mouth,
again. :-)
Doan
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You're looking in a mirror at yourself, you're the only ****-mouth,
and you're the only ****.
Steve