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"Jeff" wrote in message news:M6uSh.3582$SK3.529@trnddc03... Wrong. Chickpox killed a lot of kids. Chicken pox attacks the brain in about 1 in 1000 cases. And a lot of kids get infected from scratching at their lesions. Lies http://www.whale.to/v/chicken1.html Yes, they are for natural herbs and nutrients, but yours kill 120,000 every year in the USA alone If that's what you think. Know http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html In fact I don't know of any herb or nutrient deaths under professional herbal or nutritional MD supervision Of course you don't. These people just blame the disease or real doctors for the deaths. Like, it was the chemotherapy that killed them, even though the patient didn't have chemo for 12 months. There aren't any, you allopaths would have found them if there were Chemo kills about 300,000 every year give or take a few hundred thousand |
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"JOHN" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message news:%SqSh.477$Z66.291@trnddc06... You have yet to show that the tiny amount of thimerosal in vaccines has any negative effects. "I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasn't most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html You can repeat Haley's crap until you are blue in the face, but that doesn't make it true. Have a lovely day. I am, but the 500,000 vaccine autism victims and their families may not be having such a great one Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That number is in the millions. JEff cheers "Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side."----Goethe |
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"JOHN" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message news:M6uSh.3582$SK3.529@trnddc03... Wrong. Chickpox killed a lot of kids. Chicken pox attacks the brain in about 1 in 1000 cases. And a lot of kids get infected from scratching at their lesions. Lies http://www.whale.to/v/chicken1.html You can paste your lies as much as you want to, but the reality of the matter is that chicken pox was taking lives for years and years. As long as chicken pox has been around. And this pages confirms that. Jeff Yes, they are for natural herbs and nutrients, but yours kill 120,000 every year in the USA alone If that's what you think. Know http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html In fact I don't know of any herb or nutrient deaths under professional herbal or nutritional MD supervision Of course you don't. These people just blame the disease or real doctors for the deaths. Like, it was the chemotherapy that killed them, even though the patient didn't have chemo for 12 months. There aren't any, you allopaths would have found them if there were Chemo kills about 300,000 every year give or take a few hundred thousand |
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"JOHN" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ******** deleted "Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side."----Goethe http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html I thought you said "******** deleted." With the above site, you put it back in. There is no evidence that vaccines cause autism and much to suggest that it does. Get a clue. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles.html More lies. Last year, a 13-year old boy died form measles. Most of the decline in deaths was due to better living conditions, but measles still kills about 1 in 2000 victims, even with the best of treatment. Jeff |
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"Penny Gaines" wrote in message ... One of my kids had it at pre-school, and passed it on to their sibling: there were several other cases within that pre-school. I think my last son had it. I got it when I was 8 or so. Tilden was the father of natural healing http://www.whale.to/a/tilden2.html and natural healers like him never lost a patient to measles, so chickenpox wouldn't be a problem "I have myself, through Natural Hygiene, over 16 years, treated all forms and hundreds of cases of typhus and typhoid fevers, pneumonia's, measles and dysentery's, and have not lost a single patient. The same is true of scarlet and other fevers. No medicine whatever was given."----Dr Trall, 1862. http://www.whale.to/v/trall2.html and the drug system is killing more now than it ever did in the hayday of compulsory smallpox vaccination, although it was mostly kids then, 25,000 a year in the UK. "The Drug Medical System cannot bear examination. To explain it would be to destroy it, and to defend it even is to damage it."---R.T. Trall M.D. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message news:rluSh.10552$AS6.5153@trnddc04... Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That number is in the millions. Millions? Complete ******** 90 (NINETY) kids dying before measles vax came in and took all the credit http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html and then started its own killing! AT LEAST 26 families claim their children died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella jab, the Sunday Express can reveal. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.html and measles deaths are just BAD medicine "Under normal conditions, healthy children do not die from or become disabled from the complications of measles and if they do, questions should be asked about their management." ---Jayne Donegan MB and the billion or so paid out to vaccine victims is just the VERY TIP of the iceberg http://www.whale.to/a/deathssmallpox.html [1880] That since Vaccination has been rendered obligatory, infantile syphilis (under one year old) has been increased in England, according to a Parliamentary return, dated February 25th, 1880, from 472 per million of births in 1847, to 1,736 per million in 1877, or fourfold; and that other inoculable diseases, such as pyaemia, scrofula, erysipelas, and bronchitis, were also augmented in infants. In England, the increase of inoculable diseases was 20 per cent., notwithstanding an expenditure of 200 millions sterling since 1850 in sanitary works. Another Parliamentary return (No. 443, Session 1877) demonstrates that 25,000 babies are yearly sacrificed by diseases excited by Vaccination. International Anti-Vaccination League points against vaccination 1880 [1921] There are no adequate statistics showing these fatalities, but it may be estimated that in England and Wales no fewer than 6,000 Infants are Killed every Year by Vaccination. This is perhaps the least part of the damage. The Great Damage is that caused to Teeth, Eyesight and Constitution, by the illness of vaccinia forced upon the infant at the most critical and delicate period of its life. [1921] Vaccination and the State By Arnold Lupton MP. |
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"JOHN" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message news:rluSh.10552$AS6.5153@trnddc04... Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That number is in the millions. Millions? Complete ******** 90 (NINETY) kids dying before measles vax came in and took all the credit http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html There are vaccines that prevent more than measles. Vaccines prevent illness and death from measles, chicken-pox, polio, mumps, rubella, diptheria, tetanus, purtussis, hib pneumonia and menigitis, smallpox and other illnesses. and then started its own killing! AT LEAST 26 families claim their children died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella jab, the Sunday Express can reveal. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.html Although I am sorry that these kids died, their is nothing on this page that indicates that the deaths were really caused by vaccines. and measles deaths are just BAD medicine "Under normal conditions, healthy children do not die from or become disabled from the complications of measles and if they do, questions should be asked about their management." ---Jayne Donegan MB Some do, about 1 in 2000. The virus spreads to the brain. Measles also causes deafness. and the billion or so paid out to vaccine victims is just the VERY TIP of the iceberg http://www.whale.to/a/deathssmallpox.html [1880] That since Vaccination has been rendered obligatory, infantile syphilis (under one year old) has been increased in England, according to a Parliamentary return, dated February 25th, 1880, from 472 per million of births in 1847, to 1,736 per million in 1877, or fourfold; and that other inoculable diseases, such as pyaemia, scrofula, erysipelas, and bronchitis, were also augmented in infants. In England, the increase of inoculable diseases was 20 per cent., notwithstanding an expenditure of 200 millions sterling since 1850 in sanitary works. Another Parliamentary return (No. 443, Session 1877) demonstrates that 25,000 babies are yearly sacrificed by diseases excited by Vaccination. International Anti-Vaccination League points against vaccination 1880 [1921] There are no adequate statistics showing these fatalities, but it may be estimated that in England and Wales no fewer than 6,000 Infants are Killed every Year by Vaccination. This is perhaps the least part of the damage. The Great Damage is that caused to Teeth, Eyesight and Constitution, by the illness of vaccinia forced upon the infant at the most critical and delicate period of its life. [1921] Vaccination and the State By Arnold Lupton MP. These quotes are before today's vaccines. That is like saying that cars from the 1920s are involved in car crashes because their brakes failed, therefore, we shouldn't use modern cars. Get a clue. Jeff |
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"Jeff" wrote in message news:1yvSh.11581$op4.6920@trnddc08... "JOHN" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message news:rluSh.10552$AS6.5153@trnddc04... Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That number is in the millions. Millions? Complete ******** 90 (NINETY) kids dying before measles vax came in and took all the credit http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html There are vaccines that prevent more than measles. Vaccines prevent illness and death from measles, chicken-pox, polio, mumps, rubella, diptheria, tetanus, purtussis, hib pneumonia and menigitis, smallpox and other illnesses. and then started its own killing! AT LEAST 26 families claim their children died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella jab, the Sunday Express can reveal. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.html Although I am sorry that these kids died, their is nothing on this page that indicates that the deaths were really caused by vaccines. and measles deaths are just BAD medicine "Under normal conditions, healthy children do not die from or become disabled from the complications of measles and if they do, questions should be asked about their management." ---Jayne Donegan MB Some do, about 1 in 2000. The virus spreads to the brain. Measles also causes deafness. And congenital rubella syndrome, a huge tragedy, has become almost unheard of, thanks to vaccination: The number of reported cases of CRS in the United States has declined 96% from 77 cases in 1970 to 3 cases in 2001.1-3 Two of the three infants with CRS reported in 2001 had foreign-born mothers. Between 1990 and 2001, 121 cases of confirmed CRS were reported to the National Congenital Rubella Syndrome Registry. Of the 118 cases with known import status between 1990 and 2001, 33 (28%) were imported. Despite routine rubella vaccination among children, some rubella outbreaks continue in the U.S. These outbreaks are primarily confined to groups who traditionally refuse vaccinations and to adults from countries without a history of or with recently established routine rubella vaccination programs. Throughout the 1990s, the majority of infants with CRS were infants of mothers who fall into these categories. Though rubella cases are at record-low levels in the United States, rubella and CRS continue to be global burdens. It is estimated that there are more than 110,000 cases of CRS annually throughout the world. With the increased use of rubella vaccine; however, the burden of rubella infection should decrease in the future. As of April, 2000, 52% of countries use rubella vaccine in their national programs. http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/...12_rub_crs.pdf |
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"JOHN" wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message news:%SqSh.477$Z66.291@trnddc06... You have yet to show that the tiny amount of thimerosal in vaccines has any negative effects. "I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasn't most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html So we can expect Boyd Haley to come out and say that Andrew Wakefield is "a very foolish or a very dishonest person" any day now. Have a lovely day. I am, but the 500,000 vaccine autism victims and their families may not be having such a great one cheers "Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side."----Goethe -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:06:59 GMT, Peter Bowditch
wrote: So we can expect Boyd Haley to come out and say that Andrew Wakefield is "a very foolish or a very dishonest person" any day now. Maybe he won't, but the Brits already discredited Wakefield's research. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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