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Old May 20th 07, 07:10 AM posted to misc.kids
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I did a quick search here and didn't see anything about how children
can deal with adult bullies. By that, I mean familiar adults who
engage in emotional cruelty, humiliation, or even subtler tactics,
such as manipulation, of kids. Nothing physical or illegal. Of course,
kids can threaten to tell the parents, but adults may have ways around
that. Not to mention that kids may not always know when they're being
manipulated. Any stories to tell? (There's amazingly little to be
found in Google under several different searches I tried, aside from
the debate over corporal punishment in schools.) Just wondering,
especially since Dr. Rosemond, especially, never seems to discuss
this!

Lenona.

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Old May 21st 07, 09:51 PM posted to misc.kids
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On May 20, 5:44 pm, Banty wrote:
In article says...



I did a quick search here and didn't see anything about how children
can deal with adult bullies. By that, I mean familiar adults who
engage in emotional cruelty, humiliation, or even subtler tactics,
such as manipulation, of kids. Nothing physical or illegal. Of course,
kids can threaten to tell the parents, but adults may have ways around
that. Not to mention that kids may not always know when they're being
manipulated. Any stories to tell? (There's amazingly little to be
found in Google under several different searches I tried, aside from
the debate over corporal punishment in schools.) Just wondering,
especially since Dr. Rosemond, especially, never seems to discuss
this!


Lenona.


Why would I want to discuss that with a childfree regular?

Banty



So, don't. Just get the subject started, in another thread if you
will. Seems to me it's pretty important.

SOMEONE had to bring up the subject first. I remember when Cathy Young
wrote the book "Ceasefire!" (about the battle of the sexes) and some
men complained angrily in "Reason" magazine (which she writes for)
that a woman shouldn't be the one picked to write about men's rights
in that magazine, even favorably. She responded that no man had
volunteered. (Of course, aside from the magazine, there are plenty of
recent BOOKS on the subject.)

Anyway, as I said, Rosemond is more than a bit chicken on this
subject. While I don't remember his ever saying "the adult is always
right," it's very seldom he even says things like the following: "I
will not take my child's side in a dispute with the teacher, even if I
think the teacher's being slightly unfair. If I think she's being very
unfair, I'll ask someone else's opinion before talking with her."
Since this is so rare for him to say, it leads to grim
misunderstandings like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~frenetic/...4.01_arch.html

(Scroll to April 23.)

Finally, it's not my fault I don't want kids; my little brother
screamed so much as a baby, I KNEW I could never tolerate them. (I
read once that for that reason, it's the youngest child in a family
who is most likely to have children too soon, never having lived with
a baby.)

Lenona.

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Old May 22nd 07, 03:10 AM posted to misc.kids
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Default Adults who bully children?

In article .com,
wrote:

Anyway, as I said, Rosemond is more than a bit chicken on this
subject. While I don't remember his ever saying "the adult is always
right," it's very seldom he even says things like the following: "I
will not take my child's side in a dispute with the teacher, even if I
think the teacher's being slightly unfair. If I think she's being very
unfair, I'll ask someone else's opinion before talking with her."
Since this is so rare for him to say, it leads to grim
misunderstandings like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~frenetic/...4.01_arch.html

Well, it looks like some blogger doesn't like John Rosemond, who I presume is
some kind of op-ed guy. Blogs are *opinion* pieces too. Why do you describe
this one as "grim misunderstandings"? Why should I care about the blogger or
Rosemond?

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Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
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Old May 22nd 07, 03:37 AM posted to misc.kids
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Default Adults who bully children?

In article .com,
says...

On May 20, 5:44 pm, Banty wrote:
In article

says...



I did a quick search here and didn't see anything about how children
can deal with adult bullies. By that, I mean familiar adults who
engage in emotional cruelty, humiliation, or even subtler tactics,
such as manipulation, of kids. Nothing physical or illegal. Of course,
kids can threaten to tell the parents, but adults may have ways around
that. Not to mention that kids may not always know when they're being
manipulated. Any stories to tell? (There's amazingly little to be
found in Google under several different searches I tried, aside from
the debate over corporal punishment in schools.) Just wondering,
especially since Dr. Rosemond, especially, never seems to discuss
this!


Lenona.


Why would I want to discuss that with a childfree regular?

Banty



So, don't. Just get the subject started, in another thread if you
will. Seems to me it's pretty important.

SOMEONE had to bring up the subject first. I remember when Cathy Young
wrote the book "Ceasefire!" (about the battle of the sexes) and some
men complained angrily in "Reason" magazine (which she writes for)
that a woman shouldn't be the one picked to write about men's rights
in that magazine, even favorably. She responded that no man had
volunteered. (Of course, aside from the magazine, there are plenty of
recent BOOKS on the subject.)


Oh phooey - how disingenous of you to bring up that as an example.

We have had perfectly good, constructive contributors here who don't have kids -
it's not at all about that. You're not someone who just appeared out of the
woodwork to take up some cause. You have a posting history on Usenet. It's not
one that's in any way sympathetic to kids or parents.


Anyway, as I said, Rosemond is more than a bit chicken on this
subject. While I don't remember his ever saying "the adult is always
right," it's very seldom he even says things like the following: "I
will not take my child's side in a dispute with the teacher, even if I
think the teacher's being slightly unfair. If I think she's being very
unfair, I'll ask someone else's opinion before talking with her."
Since this is so rare for him to say, it leads to grim
misunderstandings like this:


Rosemond, Schmosemond. You consistently bring up the name of your favorite
child rearing expert - the one that comes closest to a seen-but-not-heard
philosophy, at any opportunity you can find. In this particular case, given no
recent real fodder, you bring up some subject he *hasn't* talked about, just to
drop that name again.

Your schtick is pretty obvious and transparent.

Banty

 




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