Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

PeterB wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not
likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is
so completely unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying
home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella?
Not anymore.

Timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had
nothing to do with them. Look it up.

Really? Until the measles vaccine came out, most children got measles.
Now, in the US and other countries where the vast majority of kids do,
almost no kids get measles. Polio was wiped out of the western
hemisphere by vaccines.

Get a clue, man.

When a child contracts a case
of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported
due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, but the best
vaccine does is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection
(and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.)

Bull. Already this year, cases of measles have been reported in
California and the New York City Area. These cases were from people
outside the country.

Measles is reported.

Since parents nowadays don't suspect a communicable disease, a child
is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out
of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is
presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again,
that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles
mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even
introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be
declining, as well.

Will you please provide evidence to back your claims?

You seem to be totally ignorant.

Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere,
nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources
outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated
rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity
of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and
purtussis.

One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her
pertussis vaccine. This was before I was born and people rarely
sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days. Both her
mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of her own)were
devastated by this loss. It's true that such diseases today are not
the problem they once were, but vaccine was far too late in the game
to explain those declines. Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery"
bugs up to that "weird flu" going around, but you don't really know.

Get a clue man. The vaccines wiped out the diseases.

If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick
or dying, then vaccines are necessary.

Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from a
published source?


I suggest you look at the evidence at www.cdc.gov.

Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.


Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.

How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.


On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message

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On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:





PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.

People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!

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On Apr 23, 3:55*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Coleah & Myrl ...

Mention my name and I'll be there.....
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

On Apr 23, 3:57*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Coleah & Myrl ...

Mention my name and I'll be there.....
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

On Apr 23, 4:09*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY
explanation for their ignorance and anger.


Mention my name and I'll be there.....
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

Myrl wrote:

On Apr 23, 12:14*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
LOL ... Myrl ... you are projecting again ... it is you who dressed up
calling yourself "Will Ketcher" and got busted ...


More importantly - Who was it that labeled Mark as Will Ketcher for
over 4 years, while projecting it all over newsgroups, and on your non-
profit webpages.

Yes, Will kaught you with your pants around your ankles,

And that's not a pretty sight, let me tell you.

lying through
your teeth, and the Google archives of this newsgroup proves it.

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

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To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.




On Apr 23, 6:32*pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.

Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.

How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.



On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message

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On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:

PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.

People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!

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Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?

On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.



On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?


Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.




On Apr 23, 7:16*pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?



On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.

On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
....
On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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On Apr 23, 4:11*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.


No Dear - It wasn't the "same" people who told us there were WMDs in
Iraq, and presenting scientific proof that vaccines work! I know you
may wish to see conspiracies everywhere!

As an aside, on Monday in Phoenix, UFO(s) were sited. Pictures were
taken and they hit the media. Then the next day, a guy comes forward
and states that he strung a bunch of balloons together, with flares
attached to them, which provided the "UFO" effect.

However, there are those that now say it's the "official" explanation
- and extrateresterials are out there!

The people seeing that report will fall into 3 categories: (1) People
who will believe the guy's story. (2) People who will believe his
story is an official coverup story. (3) But, the third group of
people, will say maybe it is, maybe it's not - and either continue
exploring for the truth, or go on to other things in their lives.