Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

On Apr 23, 4:16*pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?



On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.

On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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Yep, Iraqi expatriot, Chalabi, who sold the whole WMD scheme to the
current administration, has controlling interest in the companies that
make vaccines. . .LOL!

However, I'll give Kevysmom this. . .It is true that some in this
administration, had a considerable amount of investment in the Anthrax
vaccine. I think Rumsfeld especially did.

Remember the Anthrax scare we had immediately following 9-11??? It
turns out it was likely a domestic terrorist threat/attacks. And the
strain of Anthrax used in those attacks, apparently came from a
military base right here in the USA. What ever happened to that
"person of interest" (Stephen Hatfill) anyway???

Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?


Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.

Corporate America!

ROTFL!



On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!
Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?



On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?
The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.
The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.
Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.
On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?

Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.

Corporate America!

ROTFL!


And what do you find so humorous, Jeff?

You dont think Corporate America had anything to do with Iraq?

You do realize its Corporate America that decides what vaccines to
inject into our babies.

Corporate America= GREED!



On Apr 23, 7:54*pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?

Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.

Corporate America!

ROTFL!



On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!
Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?

On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?
The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.
The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.
Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.
On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
...
On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.
Corporate America!

ROTFL!


And what do you find so humorous, Jeff?

Your paranoia about corporate America. And your poor ability to think.

You dont think Corporate America had anything to do with Iraq?

You do realize its Corporate America that decides what vaccines to
inject into our babies.

Corporate America= GREED!



On Apr 23, 7:54 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.
Corporate America!

ROTFL!



On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!
Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?
The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.
The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.
Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.
On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
...
On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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And what do you find so humorous, Jeff?

Your paranoia about corporate America. And your poor ability to think.


Fine, Now its my turn......ROTFL @ Jeffy! )


On Apr 23, 8:05*pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.
Corporate America!

ROTFL!

And what do you find so humorous, Jeff?

Your paranoia about corporate America. And your poor ability to think.



You dont think Corporate America had anything to do with Iraq?

You do realize its Corporate America that decides what vaccines to
inject into our babies.

Corporate America= GREED!

On Apr 23, 7:54 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.
Corporate America!

ROTFL!

On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!
Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?
The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.
The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.
Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.
On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
...
On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present..
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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On Apr 23, 6:28*pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not
likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine
is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis.

Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio?
Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects
from rubella? Not anymore.

Timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine
had nothing to do with such declines. * Look it up.

Really? Until the measles vaccine came out, most children got
measles. Now, in the US and other countries where the vast
majority of kids do, almost no kids get measles. Polio was wiped
out of the western hemisphere by vaccines.

And I colonized Pluto once with a brew of ferrets. You can't see them
from here, but I promise, it's true. Here's the kicker. Despite
ferrets now living on Pluto, I can't prove that I put them there
myself. Remind you of anything?

Get a clue, man.

We don't need "clues," dude, we need facts. Got any?

When a child contracts a case
of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be
reported due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status,
but the best vaccine does is to limit or reduce the severity of
a viral infection (and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike
the disease itself.)

Bull. Already this year, cases of measles have been reported in
California and the New York City Area. These cases were from people
outside the country.

You aren't paying attention. I said children *already* vaccinated
would be unlikely to receive virus-specific IgM evaluation because of
their vaccination status. No one said measles no longer exists, and
no one said it can't be detected.

Measles is reported.

Since parents nowadays don't suspect a communicable disease, a
child is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. * He or
she stays out of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." *Even
if the child is presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders
blood work. *Again, that is based on vaccine bias. *You probably
don't know that measles mortality had already declined by 95%
before the vaccine was even introduced, and for that to happen,
severe morbidity had to be declining, as well.

Will you please provide evidence to back your claims?

Refer to the chart in Myrl's post about measles earlier. You can also
find scientific reviews of these data in many published books on the
subject. If you need some relevant titles, I'll be happy to supply
them.

You seem to be totally ignorant.

I will ignore your ad hominems for now.

Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere,
nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources
outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly
eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the
incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of
diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.

One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her
pertussis vaccine. *This was before I was born and people rarely
sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days.
Both her mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of
her own)were devastated by this loss. *It's true that such
diseases today are not the problem they once were, but vaccine
was far too late in the game to explain those declines. *
Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery" bugs up to that "weird
flu" going around, but you don't really know.

Get a clue man. The vaccines wiped out the diseases.

Have you seen one of my Plutonian ferrets by chance?

If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting
sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary.

Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from
a published source?

I suggest you look at the evidence at www.cdc.gov.

Gee, that's a problem. CDC's governance is largely comprised of
former pharmaceutical executives, and for my money, that's not an
unbiased source or information. Got anybody remotely independent?

However, I'll give Kevysmom this. . .It is true that some in this
administration, had a considerable amount of investment in the Anthrax
vaccine. I think Rumsfeld especially did.


See, I didnt know Rummy had his greedy hands in the Anthrax vaccine!



Remember the Anthrax scare we had immediately following 9-11??? It
turns out it was likely a domestic terrorist threat/attacks. And the
strain of Anthrax used in those attacks, apparently came from a
military base right here in the USA. What ever happened to that
"person of interest" (Stephen Hatfill) anyway???-


I sure hope everyone is smart enough to be voting for Obama.


On Apr 23, 7:51*pm, Myrl wrote:
On Apr 23, 4:16*pm, Jeff wrote:





Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?

On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.

On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
...
On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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Yep, Iraqi expatriot, Chalabi, who sold the whole WMD scheme to the
current administration, has controlling interest in the companies that
make vaccines. . .LOL!

However, I'll give Kevysmom this. . .It is true that some in this
administration, had a considerable amount of investment in the Anthrax
vaccine. *I think Rumsfeld especially did.

Remember the Anthrax scare we had immediately following 9-11??? *It
turns out it was likely a domestic terrorist threat/attacks. *And the
strain of Anthrax used in those attacks, apparently came from a
military base right here in the USA. *What ever happened to that
"person of interest" (Stephen Hatfill) anyway???- Hide quoted text -

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No Dear - It wasn't the "same" people who told us there were WMDs in
Iraq, and presenting scientific proof that vaccines work! I know you
may wish to see conspiracies everywhere!


Corporate America is just that Corporate America. It doesnt matter if
its Oil or Pharma, they are all the same. The "Proof" that vaccines
work is bought and paid for by Pharma.


On Apr 23, 7:41*pm, Myrl wrote:
On Apr 23, 4:11*pm, Kevysmom wrote:

Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.

No Dear - It wasn't the "same" people who told us there were WMDs in
Iraq, and presenting scientific proof that vaccines work! *I know you
may wish to see conspiracies everywhere!

As an aside, on Monday in Phoenix, UFO(s) were sited. *Pictures were
taken and they hit the media. *Then the next day, a guy comes forward
and states that he strung a bunch of balloons together, with flares
attached to them, which provided the "UFO" effect.

However, there are those that now say it's the "official" explanation
- and extrateresterials are out there!

The people seeing that report will fall into 3 categories: *(1) People
who will believe the guy's story. (2) People who will believe his
story is an official coverup story. (3) But, the third group of
people, will say maybe it is, maybe it's not - and either continue
exploring for the truth, or go on to other things in their lives.

On Apr 23, 5:24*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
However, I'll give Kevysmom this. . .It is true that some in this
administration, had a considerable amount of investment in the Anthrax
vaccine. *I think Rumsfeld especially did.

See, I didnt know Rummy had his greedy hands in the Anthrax vaccine!



Remember the Anthrax scare we had immediately following 9-11??? *It
turns out it was likely a domestic terrorist threat/attacks. *And the
strain of Anthrax used in those attacks, apparently came from a
military base right here in the USA. *What ever happened to that
"person of interest" (Stephen Hatfill) anyway???-

I sure hope everyone is smart enough to be voting for Obama.

On Apr 23, 7:51*pm, Myrl wrote:



On Apr 23, 4:16*pm, Jeff wrote:

Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?

On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?

The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.

The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they
prevent.

Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.

On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
...
On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present..
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
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Yep, Iraqi expatriot, Chalabi, who sold the whole WMD scheme to the
current administration, has controlling interest in the companies that
make vaccines. . .LOL!

However, I'll give Kevysmom this. . .It is true that some in this
administration, had a considerable amount of investment in the Anthrax
vaccine. *I think Rumsfeld especially did.

Remember the Anthrax scare we had immediately following 9-11??? *It
turns out it was likely a domestic terrorist threat/attacks. *And the
strain of Anthrax used in those attacks, apparently came from a
military base right here in the USA. *What ever happened to that
"person of interest" (Stephen Hatfill) anyway???- Hide quoted text -

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I think most anyone would be better running the White House than what
we have! At one point I had more hope for McCain, but he doesn't seem
to have a plan for the ailing economy. His stance is leave it alone!
I think 8 years of the existing policies would all but ruin us. . .and
that's what I see McCain as perpetuating.

Like Obama, I was totally against going into Iraq from the very
beginning. The archives of this newsgroup will prove that. But, I
disagree with him now. We have totally broke it over there, and we
should not just get up and leave. I think we have a moral obligation
to stabilize the situation that we created by unilaterally impossing
pre-emptive action on a country, which had absolutely nothing to do
with 9-11. The terrorists flying the planes that day were from Saudi
Arabia and Pakistan - Not Iraq, or Iran!

I like what Hillary says about Health care, I also agree, that there
should be benchmarks for leaving Iraq - and those benchmarks should
not be publicized!

In message , PeterB wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:09*pm, Jeff wrote:

Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying
home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella?
Not anymore.

Timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had
nothing to do with them. Look it up. When a child contracts a case
of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported
due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, but the best
vaccine does is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection
(and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.)

And as for the patients with polio-induced respiratory paralysis,
well, we just pretend that they don't exist and call it a car
wreck or something. The Neuralizer does wonders for the family
and friends who don't remember them getting sick.

Measles? Indeed -- the memory of parents and doctors in the
1960s was amazingly short. Within three years they completely
forgot what that rash reminded them of. Without all the
anxiety, kids didn't go blind, deaf, or have other neurological
impairment either. All that, and it was just their imaginations.

The rubella birth defects, of course, never happened. Pay no
attention to the cripples behind the curtain.

Since parents nowadays don't suspect a communicable disease, a child
is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out
of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is
presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again,
that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles
mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even
introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be
declining, as well.

Since this was all just a coincidence, you won't have any
trouble at all finding just ONE example from hundreds of
combinations where mass vaccination didn't immediately
precede a three-sigma drop in the disease it targeted
for one of:

* polio
* diphtheria
* pertussis
* tetanus
* measles
* mumps
* rubella
* Hib
* HepB
* Meningococcal disease

In a country where they've kept reasonably complete records
for at least the ten years before and afterward.

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