Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon

In message IKOPj.5958$WU.4039@trndny08, Jeff wrote:

Really? Until the measles vaccine came out, most children got measles.
Now, in the US and other countries where the vast majority of kids do,
almost no kids get measles. Polio was wiped out of the western
hemisphere by vaccines.

He denies it -- everyone still gets measles, and since
it was never a serious disease nobody thinks twice about it.

Or so he says.

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In message , PeterB wrote:

Have you seen one of my Plutonian ferrets by chance?

No, at last word they'd caught a ride with Chuckles to
Uranus.

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In message , PeterB wrote:

Did you know that timeline data for all of these proves
conclusively that vaccine had nothing to do with those declines?

No, and you're going to avoid presenting anything resembling
real data to support your claim too. Instead, it will all be
insults directed at distracting from your total lack of facts.

(Measles, United States)
Year Cases Deaths
1950 319,124
1951 530,118
1952 683,077
1953 449,146
1954 682,720
1955 555,156
1956 611,936
1957 486,799
1958 763,094
1959 406,162

1960 441,703 380
1961 423,919 434
1962 481,530 408
1963 385,156 364
1964 458,083 421
1965 261,904 276
1966 204,136 261
1967 62,705 81
1968 22,231 24
1969 25,826 41
1970 47,351 89
1971 75,290 90
1972 32,275 24
1973 26,690 23
1974 22,094 20
1975 24,374 20
1976 41,126 12
1977 57,345 15
1978 26,871 11
1979 13,597 6

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In message , Kevysmom wrote:

Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.

Seizures from haemophilus influenzae are terrifying, and
indeed the neurological damage is crippling even when
the patient survives. The same, of course, is true of
meningococcal disease. Fortunately, neither is remotely
as common today as they were 15 years ago.

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In message , Kevysmom wrote:

Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY
explanation for their ignorance and anger.

Excellent. You truly believe this, eh? Really,
truly, sincerely believe this?

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Myrl,

I think this is your best post, Ever!

Obama doesnt plan on just leaving Iraqis to deal with the situation
that we caused. He is planning on leaving troops to help keep peace in
the region.

Hillary has always been for the Iraqi war, she changed her stance on
the war when she decided to run for the nomination. I also worry about
her stance regarding Iran.



I actually like McCain's wife. I think McCain is a real war hero and
has some good qualities in him, that I admire. But he would be another
puppet for the GOP. And thats the last thing our country needs.






On Apr 23, 8:52*pm, Myrl wrote:
On Apr 23, 5:24*pm, Kevysmom wrote:





However, I'll give Kevysmom this. . .It is true that some in this
administration, had a considerable amount of investment in the Anthrax
vaccine. *I think Rumsfeld especially did.

See, I didnt know Rummy had his greedy hands in the Anthrax vaccine!

Remember the Anthrax scare we had immediately following 9-11??? *It
turns out it was likely a domestic terrorist threat/attacks. *And the
strain of Anthrax used in those attacks, apparently came from a
military base right here in the USA. *What ever happened to that
"person of interest" (Stephen Hatfill) anyway???-

I sure hope everyone is smart enough to be voting for Obama.

On Apr 23, 7:51*pm, Myrl wrote:

On Apr 23, 4:16*pm, Jeff wrote:

Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!

Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.

We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By
the same people I might add.

Really? And what people are these?

On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.

On Apr 24, 7:11*am, Kevysmom wrote:
Myrl,

I think this is your best post, Ever!

Obama doesnt plan on just leaving Iraqis to deal with the situation
that we caused. He is planning on leaving troops to help keep peace in
the region.

Hillary has always been for the Iraqi war, she changed her stance on
the war when she decided to run for the nomination. I also worry about
her stance regarding Iran.

I actually like McCain's wife. *I think McCain is a real war hero and
has some good qualities in him, that I admire. But he would be another
puppet for the GOP. And thats the last thing our country needs.



There is an interesting documentary on the ramp up to the Iraq War.
It goes into depth about the politics and the business interests which
caused this administration to display so much exhuberance and glee at
the possibility of invading Iraq. And to find such a welcome friend in
Iraqi ex-patriout, Chalabi, who was whispering sweet nothings into
administration ears.

One of the men involved in writing the intelligence report ultimately
presented to Congress to extract their approval for the invasion was
continually met with interference from the Administration (mainly in
Cheney's realm), to black out or rewrite entire segments of the report
to provide a more agressive reasoning for our going to war. Afterall,
they were writing a marketing piece to sell this war to congress,
rather than providing real facts!

Once completed, it was enormous with many hundreds of pages. The
report was put on a conference room table in a Congressional meeting
room, shortly before Congress was to break for a long Thanksgiving
holiday.

So the question remains - How many Congressional members actually sat
at that table and read that report with any considered thought, or
depth???

In order for Obama to "keep the peace" in Iraq, we will first need to
first stabilize the country. Stabilizing the country will not allow
Obama to do what he has said - which is to immediately bring the
military home! What we may wish that he be able to do, morally isn't
an option! And that is not his fault!

I watch many documentaries. These were some of the more interesting
ones regarding the Iraq War. I'm certain there were others, but their
titles escape me right now.

If you belong to Netflix (like I do), you can obtain them that way.
But, I suspect Blockbuster may have some of them. Several were
produced by the History Channel, PBS, etc.

(1) WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception
(2) Uncovered: The War on Iraq
(3) The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
(4) The Iraq War: The War Profitteers

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:m9QPj.7361$XY1.5@trndny03...
Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.
Corporate America!

ROTFL!


And what do you find so humorous, Jeff?

Your paranoia about corporate America. And your poor ability to think.

Nice personal attack.

You dont think Corporate America had anything to do with Iraq?

You do realize its Corporate America that decides what vaccines to
inject into our babies.

Corporate America= GREED!



On Apr 23, 7:54 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate
America. How do they get that oil, They use our government.
Corporate America!

ROTFL!



On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!
Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my
concern.
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By
the same people I might add.
Really? And what people are these?
On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and
died.
How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib
meningitis
that the Hib vaccine is dangerous?
The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and
refusing to get vaccines is no different.
The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases
they
prevent.
Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents
not to
vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very
serious illnesses.
On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote:
"Myrl" wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not
likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so
completely
unncessary and without scientific basis.
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio?
Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not
anymore.
Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere,
nearly
completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside
the US),
decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related
birth
defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox,
decreased
the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis.
If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick
or
dying, then vaccines are necessary.
Jeff
Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen
from
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day
and
age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio,
Rubella,
Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to
remember it!
So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?-
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