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Old August 10th 08, 10:19 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
JOHN
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth


[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


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Old August 11th 08, 02:12 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Jan Drew
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth


"JOHN" wrote in message
...

[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
we know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95%
range we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country
of measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still
endemic. So its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr.
David Tayloe, President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/ne...ew=yes&id=2439

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Old August 11th 08, 04:42 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
David Wright
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth

In article ,
JOHN wrote:

[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan



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Old August 11th 08, 05:02 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Jan Drew
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth


"David Wright" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
JOHN wrote:

[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic.
So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David
Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


Try "big whopping truth."


you


Are not the subject.

-- David Wright


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Old August 11th 08, 09:14 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
JOHN
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth


"David Wright" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
JOHN wrote:

[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic.
So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David
Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.


try reading before you shout your mouth off

you got out of my killfile to tell me that?

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nes/ploy5.html

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Old August 12th 08, 03:34 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Mike[_6_]
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth

David Wright wrote:
In article ,
JOHN wrote:
[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.


The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
safe.

The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
packages, like these:
************************************************** ************
ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
potential, or for impairment of fertility."
************************************************** ************
Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
************************************************** ************


It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
"... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".
So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
But this is not what he said.
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Old August 12th 08, 04:33 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Andrew Heenan[_2_]
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth


"Mike" wrote in message news:GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03...
David Wright wrote:
In article ,
JOHN wrote:
[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show
any relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this
and we know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to
95% range we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this
country of measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are
still endemic. So its very important that we vaccinate all our
children."----Dr. David Tayloe, President Elect of the American Academy
of Pediatrics
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html


Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.


The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
safe.

The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
packages, like these:
************************************************** ************
ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
potential, or for impairment of fertility."
************************************************** ************
Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
************************************************** ************


It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
"... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".
So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
But this is not what he said.


Does that justify you boring untold thousands of people half to death?
--
Andrew

The trick when dealing with cross-posting idiots is to reply to every group
*except your own* - So while I apologise for this cross post, you now know
what to do.
http://www.flayme.com/


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Old August 12th 08, 05:17 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
David Wright
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth

In article GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03, Mike wrote:
David Wright wrote:
In article ,
JOHN wrote:
[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html

Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.


The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
safe.


If your seat belt happened to slide in just the wrong way during a
crash, it could probably break your neck. Therefore, seat belts
aren't safe. Be sure not to wear yours whenever you drive.


The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
packages, like these:
************************************************* *************
ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
potential, or for impairment of fertility."
************************************************* *************
Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
************************************************* *************

It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
"... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".


Oh, are you expecting anything in your life to be 100% safe? In that
case, you might as well kill yourself now and avoid all the
disappointment.

So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
But this is not what he said.


"Safe" is obviously shorthand for your much longer version in the
preceding paragraph; it doesn't mean "100% safe," as should be obvious
to anyone with an IQ over 90. Some people just have to have
everything spelled out for them.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan

  #9  
Old August 13th 08, 04:26 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Mike[_6_]
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth

David Wright wrote:
In article GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03, Mike wrote:
David Wright wrote:
In article ,
JOHN wrote:
[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...nt-easily.html
Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.

The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
safe.


If your seat belt happened to slide in just the wrong way during a
crash, it could probably break your neck. Therefore, seat belts
aren't safe. Be sure not to wear yours whenever you drive.


If I do not use it correctly it does not make it unsafe.
But the vaccines were administered correctly.


The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
packages, like these:
************************************************** ************
ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
potential, or for impairment of fertility."
************************************************** ************
Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
************************************************** ************

It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
"... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".


Oh, are you expecting anything in your life to be 100% safe? In that
case, you might as well kill yourself now and avoid all the
disappointment.

So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
But this is not what he said.


"Safe" is obviously shorthand for your much longer version in the
preceding paragraph; it doesn't mean "100% safe," as should be obvious
to anyone with an IQ over 90. Some people just have to have
everything spelled out for them.


Would you use seat belts that are just "mostly safe for most people"?
Or you would prefer "100% safe" seat belts? How about letting
your child use "mostly safe" seat belts that are being recalled
even before any incidents? Such seat belts are called, you know,
defective, not safe.


-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan

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Old August 13th 08, 11:39 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Andrew Heenan[_2_]
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Default AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth

"Mike" :
Would you use seat belts that are just "mostly safe for most people"?
Or you would prefer "100% safe" seat belts? How about letting
your child use "mostly safe" seat belts that are being recalled
even before any incidents? Such seat belts are called, you know,
defective, not safe.


Pedants rule, at least in their heads.
--
Andrew

The trick when dealing with cross-posting idiots is to reply to every group
*except your own*, and kill file the idiot. So while I apologise for this
cross post, you now know what to do.
http://www.flayme.com/


 




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