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Are your children behaving badly?
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Why, we have the largest genitals for our size in the animal kingdom obviously because we DEMANDED them by doing better with than without them! We quite literally went on strike against the world for larger genitals because that is how we succeed, we bond sexually and form cooeprative tribes. Now that's just plain bullcrap. Anyone with an ounce of brainpower knows we didn't demand larger genitals; they were sold to us by spammers on the Internet. Rabbit -------------------- Amusing, but that very existence of spammers who might sell them to us illustrates our ongoing speciel desire for the same!!! We could have had ONLY a very simple TINY sperm packet deposition system that only needed to be activated once per lifetime, like spiders, and it could have passed the packet to the female with as little apparent awareness of it as spiders manifest, namely none at all. But it was obviously quite important to our inherent speciel dynamic to have large and highly sensory genitals for the purpose of bonding sexually in a pleasurable manner, and not merely once monogamously with one other member of the opposite sex, but even to both sexes, potentially, and to a number of other sex partners as well, and on an everyday ongoing basis merely FOR ENJOYMENT, since that is the vastly majority purpose of our sexual experiences!! Why, we would have needed such a pleasure system even if we had a simple spern- packet system for reproduction located on other parts of our bodies! We have large sensitive penises and vaginas because those earlier humans who had smaller ones were not as happy surviving as we were, and failed to thrive and breed and succeed as well as we did!! This can be construed specielly as "going on strike for better ****ing conditions"!!! Steve |
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Are your children behaving badly?
R. Steve Walz wrote:
Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Kane wrote: On May 8, 9:30 am, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: h wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in news:463E7860.15B5 @armory.com: Any animal which kills defenseless humans in the open should be eradicated from the earth and otherwise survive only in zoos. The animal was already in captivity, and the "defenseless" human children invaded its enclosure and were tormenting it. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and foreseeable outcome. -------------- Oh, I don't give a **** about the croc and the kids, but you don't kill kids for torturing animals, and you kill animals who attempt to kill kids. People are simply more valuable than animals. And if you actually read the whole thread you'd grasp how we got here from there. Steve Don't you support the concept of evolution according to Darwin, Steve? Looks like a Darwin Award incident to me. Sure, the kids were stupid, that's what kids are, stupid It doesn't mean we shouldn't make OUR world safe for kids! Does that mean we should make the world safe for the stupid? Face it, both kids and the stupid have almost infinite cunning when it comes to Darwinizing themselves and trying to protect them from the world is an exercise in frustration and futility. This sort of misunderstanding of Darwin is the root of your kind of social "Darwinism", and actually it's unrelated to anything he wrote. {snippage} Think of it as evolution in action. Every incidence of self-Darwinization removes a little more stupidity from the gene pool. That's just it, that's not the way that Evolution works! {more snippage} To the extent that there's a genetic component of intelligence, someone stupidly removing themselves from the gene pool increases the average intelligence. But now, unfortunately for your argument, Evolutionary survival has a lot more to do with group cooperative functional facility, and not at all with intelligence or anything any individual does {snippage} Yeah, it's not a competition among the members of the population, but Darwinizing oneself shows a marked unfitness for the ecological niche. No, in fact, such sacrificial outliers which mortalize can strongly benefit a socially mnemonic group by their contribution to group knowledge, effectively INCREASING group survivability! {snippage} "Socially mnemonic group?" What the hell is that? I think you're saying that the survival prospects of the group are enhanced by the negative examples of the stupid removing themselves from the gene pool for the edification and amusement of the rest. This is true, as is the fact that the stupid or unthinking don't pay attention to the negative examples and go on to Darwinize themselves in the same way. -- -- Marten Kemp (Fix name and ISP to reply) -=-=- .... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann I can't do that, Peter. I have several old texts in my office (bound with animal skin, and inked with blood), and every time I attempt to chant any sort of Latin[0] the walls begin to bleed, and my Arrowhead Mountain Spring Water bottle tells me it's going to kill me with my flathead screwdriver. -- Stephen S. Edwards II (from http://home.xnet.com/~raven/Sysadmin/ASR.Quotes.html) * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org |
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Are your children behaving badly?
We have large sensitive penises and vaginas because those earlier humans who had smaller ones were not as happy surviving as we were, and failed to thrive and breed and succeed as well as we did!! This can be construed specielly as "going on strike for better ****ing conditions"!!! Steve Ummm ... yeah, okay. You have a degree in anthropology, I'll bet. Rabbit |
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Are your children behaving badly?
Marten Kemp wrote:
R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Kane wrote: On May 8, 9:30 am, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: h wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in news:463E7860.15B5 @armory.com: Any animal which kills defenseless humans in the open should be eradicated from the earth and otherwise survive only in zoos. The animal was already in captivity, and the "defenseless" human children invaded its enclosure and were tormenting it. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and foreseeable outcome. -------------- Oh, I don't give a **** about the croc and the kids, but you don't kill kids for torturing animals, and you kill animals who attempt to kill kids. People are simply more valuable than animals. And if you actually read the whole thread you'd grasp how we got here from there. Steve Don't you support the concept of evolution according to Darwin, Steve? Looks like a Darwin Award incident to me. Sure, the kids were stupid, that's what kids are, stupid It doesn't mean we shouldn't make OUR world safe for kids! Does that mean we should make the world safe for the stupid? Face it, both kids and the stupid have almost infinite cunning when it comes to Darwinizing themselves and trying to protect them from the world is an exercise in frustration and futility. This sort of misunderstanding of Darwin is the root of your kind of social "Darwinism", and actually it's unrelated to anything he wrote. {snippage} Think of it as evolution in action. Every incidence of self-Darwinization removes a little more stupidity from the gene pool. That's just it, that's not the way that Evolution works! {more snippage} To the extent that there's a genetic component of intelligence, someone stupidly removing themselves from the gene pool increases the average intelligence. But now, unfortunately for your argument, Evolutionary survival has a lot more to do with group cooperative functional facility, and not at all with intelligence or anything any individual does {snippage} Yeah, it's not a competition among the members of the population, but Darwinizing oneself shows a marked unfitness for the ecological niche. No, in fact, such sacrificial outliers which mortalize can strongly benefit a socially mnemonic group by their contribution to group knowledge, effectively INCREASING group survivability! {snippage} "Socially mnemonic group?" What the hell is that? ---------------------------- A group that communicates and remembers socially. I think you're saying that the survival prospects of the group are enhanced by the negative examples of the stupid removing themselves from the gene pool for the edification and amusement of the rest. -------------------- That may be a feature, or a bug. But it is important not to denigrate those whose curiosity gets them to do self-destructive things, because their sacrifice increases speciel survivability NOT merely by negative xample, but POSITIVELY by the information they retrieve in such an activity, that could NOT be gleaned any other way! In other words, a species can be MORE survivable if they utlize sacrifice players! This is true, as is the fact that the stupid or unthinking don't pay attention to the negative examples and go on to Darwinize themselves in the same way. -- Marten Kemp ------------------------------ You're with great misunderstanding mis-using the term "Darwin"-ize and failing to grasp that a species may STRONGLY increase its survivability precisely by the use of sacrifice players. This can be the MAJOR advantage of our group sociality. -=-=- ... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann --------------------------- This was what the nut-fringe group of monks were chanting in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as they walked by in line beating themselves in the head with stone tablets! It means, in Latin, Sweet Lord Jesus, Give Them Peace! (BAng two tablets on your head and call me in the morning!) Steve |
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Are your children behaving badly?
Rabbit wrote:
We have large sensitive penises and vaginas because those earlier humans who had smaller ones were not as happy surviving as we were, and failed to thrive and breed and succeed as well as we did!! This can be construed specielly as "going on strike for better ****ing conditions"!!! Steve Ummm ... yeah, okay. You have a degree in anthropology, I'll bet. Rabbit ------------ Nope, Physics. Steve |
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R. Steve Walz wrote:
Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Kane wrote: On May 8, 9:30 am, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: h wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in news:463E7860.15B5 @armory.com: Any animal which kills defenseless humans in the open should be eradicated from the earth and otherwise survive only in zoos. The animal was already in captivity, and the "defenseless" human children invaded its enclosure and were tormenting it. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and foreseeable outcome. -------------- Oh, I don't give a **** about the croc and the kids, but you don't kill kids for torturing animals, and you kill animals who attempt to kill kids. People are simply more valuable than animals. And if you actually read the whole thread you'd grasp how we got here from there. Steve Don't you support the concept of evolution according to Darwin, Steve? Looks like a Darwin Award incident to me. Sure, the kids were stupid, that's what kids are, stupid It doesn't mean we shouldn't make OUR world safe for kids! Does that mean we should make the world safe for the stupid? Face it, both kids and the stupid have almost infinite cunning when it comes to Darwinizing themselves and trying to protect them from the world is an exercise in frustration and futility. This sort of misunderstanding of Darwin is the root of your kind of social "Darwinism", and actually it's unrelated to anything he wrote. Think of it as evolution in action. Every incidence of self-Darwinization removes a little more stupidity from the gene pool. That's just it, that's not the way that Evolution works! To the extent that there's a genetic component of intelligence, someone stupidly removing themselves from the gene pool increases the average intelligence. But now, unfortunately for your argument, Evolutionary survival has a lot more to do with group cooperative functional facility, and not at all with intelligence or anything any individual does Yeah, it's not a competition among the members of the population, but Darwinizing oneself shows a marked unfitness for the ecological niche. No, in fact, such sacrificial outliers which mortalize can strongly benefit a socially mnemonic group by their contribution to group knowledge, effectively INCREASING group survivability! "Socially mnemonic group?" What the hell is that? A group that communicates and remembers socially. Oh, okay. I think you're saying that the survival prospects of the group are enhanced by the negative examples of the stupid removing themselves from the gene pool for the edification and amusement of the rest. That may be a feature, or a bug. But it is important not to denigrate those whose curiosity gets them to do self-destructive things, because their sacrifice increases speciel survivability NOT merely by negative xample, but POSITIVELY by the information they retrieve in such an activity, that could NOT be gleaned any other way! In other words, a species can be MORE survivable if they utlize sacrifice players! This is true, as is the fact that the stupid or unthinking don't pay attention to the negative examples and go on to Darwinize themselves in the same way. You're with great misunderstanding mis-using the term "Darwin"-ize and failing to grasp that a species may STRONGLY increase its survivability precisely by the use of sacrifice players. This can be the MAJOR advantage of our group sociality. Only if the rest of the group pays attention. The stupid or unthinking don't, and pay the price for it. Which improves the group's intelligence. -=-=- ... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann --------------------------- This was what the nut-fringe group of monks were chanting in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as they walked by in line beating themselves in the head with stone tablets! It means, in Latin, Sweet Lord Jesus, Give Them Peace! (BAng two tablets on your head and call me in the morning!) Yeah, and did you read the rest of the .sig? -- -- Marten Kemp (Fix name and ISP to reply) -=-=- .... There are some that only employ words for the purpose of disguising their thoughts. -Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778) * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org |
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Are your children behaving badly?
Marten Kemp wrote:
R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Kane wrote: On May 8, 9:30 am, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: h wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in news:463E7860.15B5 @armory.com: Any animal which kills defenseless humans in the open should be eradicated from the earth and otherwise survive only in zoos. The animal was already in captivity, and the "defenseless" human children invaded its enclosure and were tormenting it. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and foreseeable outcome. -------------- Oh, I don't give a **** about the croc and the kids, but you don't kill kids for torturing animals, and you kill animals who attempt to kill kids. People are simply more valuable than animals. And if you actually read the whole thread you'd grasp how we got here from there. Steve Don't you support the concept of evolution according to Darwin, Steve? Looks like a Darwin Award incident to me. Sure, the kids were stupid, that's what kids are, stupid It doesn't mean we shouldn't make OUR world safe for kids! Does that mean we should make the world safe for the stupid? Face it, both kids and the stupid have almost infinite cunning when it comes to Darwinizing themselves and trying to protect them from the world is an exercise in frustration and futility. This sort of misunderstanding of Darwin is the root of your kind of social "Darwinism", and actually it's unrelated to anything he wrote. Think of it as evolution in action. Every incidence of self-Darwinization removes a little more stupidity from the gene pool. That's just it, that's not the way that Evolution works! To the extent that there's a genetic component of intelligence, someone stupidly removing themselves from the gene pool increases the average intelligence. But now, unfortunately for your argument, Evolutionary survival has a lot more to do with group cooperative functional facility, and not at all with intelligence or anything any individual does Yeah, it's not a competition among the members of the population, but Darwinizing oneself shows a marked unfitness for the ecological niche. No, in fact, such sacrificial outliers which mortalize can strongly benefit a socially mnemonic group by their contribution to group knowledge, effectively INCREASING group survivability! "Socially mnemonic group?" What the hell is that? A group that communicates and remembers socially. Oh, okay. ------------- Uh. Alright. I think you're saying that the survival prospects of the group are enhanced by the negative examples of the stupid removing themselves from the gene pool for the edification and amusement of the rest. That may be a feature, or a bug. But it is important not to denigrate those whose curiosity gets them to do self-destructive things, because their sacrifice increases speciel survivability NOT merely by negative xample, but POSITIVELY by the information they retrieve in such an activity, that could NOT be gleaned any other way! In other words, a species can be MORE survivable if they utlize sacrifice players! This is true, as is the fact that the stupid or unthinking don't pay attention to the negative examples and go on to Darwinize themselves in the same way. You're with great misunderstanding mis-using the term "Darwin"-ize and failing to grasp that a species may STRONGLY increase its survivability precisely by the use of sacrifice players. This can be the MAJOR advantage of our group sociality. Only if the rest of the group pays attention. ------------------- Fait acompli, you sure did. The stupid or unthinking don't, and pay the price for it. Which improves the group's intelligence. ----------------------- There are no "unthinking". And sacrifice players are ALWAYS useful, so even the "less-thinking" are useful to those remaining. ... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann --------------------------- This was what the nut-fringe group of monks were chanting in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as they walked by in line beating themselves in the head with stone tablets! It means, in Latin, Sweet Lord Jesus, Give Them Peace! (BAng two tablets on your head and call me in the morning!) Yeah, and did you read the rest of the .sig? -- Marten Kemp --------------------- Yeah, it was not appropros. Steve |
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Are your children behaving badly?
R. Steve Walz wrote:
Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Kane wrote: On May 8, 9:30 am, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: h wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in news:463E7860.15B5 @armory.com: Any animal which kills defenseless humans in the open should be eradicated from the earth and otherwise survive only in zoos. The animal was already in captivity, and the "defenseless" human children invaded its enclosure and were tormenting it. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable and foreseeable outcome. -------------- Oh, I don't give a **** about the croc and the kids, but you don't kill kids for torturing animals, and you kill animals who attempt to kill kids. People are simply more valuable than animals. And if you actually read the whole thread you'd grasp how we got here from there. Steve Don't you support the concept of evolution according to Darwin, Steve? Looks like a Darwin Award incident to me. Sure, the kids were stupid, that's what kids are, stupid It doesn't mean we shouldn't make OUR world safe for kids! Does that mean we should make the world safe for the stupid? Face it, both kids and the stupid have almost infinite cunning when it comes to Darwinizing themselves and trying to protect them from the world is an exercise in frustration and futility. This sort of misunderstanding of Darwin is the root of your kind of social "Darwinism", and actually it's unrelated to anything he wrote. Think of it as evolution in action. Every incidence of self-Darwinization removes a little more stupidity from the gene pool. That's just it, that's not the way that Evolution works! To the extent that there's a genetic component of intelligence, someone stupidly removing themselves from the gene pool increases the average intelligence. But now, unfortunately for your argument, Evolutionary survival has a lot more to do with group cooperative functional facility, and not at all with intelligence or anything any individual does Yeah, it's not a competition among the members of the population, but Darwinizing oneself shows a marked unfitness for the ecological niche. No, in fact, such sacrificial outliers which mortalize can strongly benefit a socially mnemonic group by their contribution to group knowledge, effectively INCREASING group survivability! "Socially mnemonic group?" What the hell is that? A group that communicates and remembers socially. Oh, okay. ------------- Uh. Alright. I think you're saying that the survival prospects of the group are enhanced by the negative examples of the stupid removing themselves from the gene pool for the edification and amusement of the rest. That may be a feature, or a bug. But it is important not to denigrate those whose curiosity gets them to do self-destructive things, because their sacrifice increases speciel survivability NOT merely by negative xample, but POSITIVELY by the information they retrieve in such an activity, that could NOT be gleaned any other way! In other words, a species can be MORE survivable if they utlize sacrifice players! This is true, as is the fact that the stupid or unthinking don't pay attention to the negative examples and go on to Darwinize themselves in the same way. You're with great misunderstanding mis-using the term "Darwin"-ize and failing to grasp that a species may STRONGLY increase its survivability precisely by the use of sacrifice players. This can be the MAJOR advantage of our group sociality. Only if the rest of the group pays attention. ------------------- Fait acompli, you sure did. The stupid or unthinking don't, and pay the price for it. Which improves the group's intelligence. There are no "unthinking". And sacrifice players are ALWAYS useful, so even the "less-thinking" are useful to those remaining. In the way that the unwary are useful to the remainder while crossing a minefield? ... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann --------------------------- This was what the nut-fringe group of monks were chanting in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as they walked by in line beating themselves in the head with stone tablets! It means, in Latin, Sweet Lord Jesus, Give Them Peace! (BAng two tablets on your head and call me in the morning!) Yeah, and did you read the rest of the .sig? Yeah, it was not appropros. It was in connection with the cabling of SCSI devices, which is one of those Black Arts of the Computer Realm. Never mind, I didn't expect you to get it. -- -- Marten Kemp (Fix name and ISP to reply) -=-=- .... When you go home to your shining galaxy, say that what you learned from this dead and barren place is to beware the righteous ones. --Philip Appleman "Last-Minute Message for a Time Capsule" * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org |
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Are your children behaving badly?
Marten Kemp wrote:
R. Steve Walz wrote: The stupid or unthinking don't, and pay the price for it. Which improves the group's intelligence. There are no "unthinking". And sacrifice players are ALWAYS useful, so even the "less-thinking" are useful to those remaining. In the way that the unwary are useful to the remainder while crossing a minefield? ------------------------- And not JUST that, the simple fact that they reduced the mines out there by one, but that they established a known good path where a mine is no longer! ... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann --------------------------- This was what the nut-fringe group of monks were chanting in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as they walked by in line beating themselves in the head with stone tablets! It means, in Latin, Sweet Lord Jesus, Give Them Peace! (BAng two tablets on your head and call me in the morning!) Yeah, and did you read the rest of the .sig? Yeah, it was not appropros. It was in connection with the cabling of SCSI devices, which is one of those Black Arts of the Computer Realm. Never mind, I didn't expect you to get it. --------------------------- Nawh, I know that, it just didn't seem relevant. Anyway, the only problem with ribbon cabling SCSI is getting the ground lines tied on only one end so that they don't cause ground-loops. Oldschool. Steve |
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Are your children behaving badly?
R. Steve Walz wrote:
Marten Kemp wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: The stupid or unthinking don't, and pay the price for it. Which improves the group's intelligence. There are no "unthinking". And sacrifice players are ALWAYS useful, so even the "less-thinking" are useful to those remaining. In the way that the unwary are useful to the remainder while crossing a minefield? ------------------------- And not JUST that, the simple fact that they reduced the mines out there by one, but that they established a known good path where a mine is no longer! Yeah, useful. ... Remember to chant "Pie Jesu domine, dona eis requiem" whenever you do that. -- Peter Gutmann --------------------------- This was what the nut-fringe group of monks were chanting in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as they walked by in line beating themselves in the head with stone tablets! It means, in Latin, Sweet Lord Jesus, Give Them Peace! (BAng two tablets on your head and call me in the morning!) Yeah, and did you read the rest of the .sig? Yeah, it was not appropros. It was in connection with the cabling of SCSI devices, which is one of those Black Arts of the Computer Realm. Never mind, I didn't expect you to get it. --------------------------- Nawh, I know that, it just didn't seem relevant. Anyway, the only problem with ribbon cabling SCSI is getting the ground lines tied on only one end so that they don't cause ground-loops. Oldschool. And jumpering a heterogenous collection of drives for termpower, spinup, and separate addressing. Oh, and the occasional "force SE mode." Bonus points for archived dox on the manufacturers' sites and those tiny little jumpers (I always seem to be manipulating jumpers in inadequate lighting). -- -- Marten Kemp (Fix name and ISP to reply) -=-=- .... cat Dimensions | /dev/blackhole Dimensions.bz -- Robert Blake Wow. Rootkit for Universes. -- Peter da Silva Yes, but Ghod help you if you ctrl-alt-del while using it. -- Keith A. Glass (from http://home.xnet.com/~raven/Sysadmin/ASR.Quotes.html) * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org |
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