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A call for help! (co-sleeping research needed)
Hope these help if not exactly what you need:
http://www.mothering.com/editorials/editorial113.shtml Also some info on this page http://www.mothering.com/action-alerts/index.shtml I think there is a more in depth Mothering article but I can't find it. -- Dagny |
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A call for help! (co-sleeping research needed)
HollyLewis wrote: So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS risk? You want the research of James McKenna, which is written about extensively by Meredith Small in the book _Our Babies, Ourselves_ (there is a chapter specifically about sleep). Unfortunately, I have no idea how to go about finding actual abstracts or the like on the 'net, but perhaps someone here does. But go get the Small book and use her annotations. Em- Per Holly's suggestion, I looked up McKenna on pubmed and have a word document with his abstracts. Haven't gone through it all, but if you want the abstracts, let me know and I can email it to you. I can get some of the articles in pdf format (especially in the last 6-7 years). Mary |
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A call for help! (co-sleeping research needed)
OMG! I have no idea how to help you there. I can't imagine it would be
possible to have that come through. What, are they going around to every country in the world where this is the norm and taking all those babies away? Where do you live? What a shock! Marie I don't know what the consequences are, but lately I've noticed at the hospital where I work, that the social worker will be called in to "warn" parents of the "dangers" of co-sleeping. However, nothing seems to be done in the case of the parents who are there with their sick children and *never* pick them up or interact with them. Maryilee Maggie's Christmas page http://www.angelfire.com/vi/maggie/c...spictures.html Info on hereditary spherocytosis http://www.angelfire.com/vi/maggie/spherocytosis.html |
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A call for help! (co-sleeping research needed)
"Em" wrote in message news:l1gZb.362162$na.548892@attbi_s04...
So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS risk? From the perspective of a co-sleeping mama who loves it, unfortunately I can't. You can quote James McKenna, who shows that co-sleeping babies' breathing is more in sync with their moms and attempt to extrapolate that therefore SIDS rates will be lower. You can quote Dr. Sears, whose research standards are, shall we say, very much his own. But you can't find hard data that supports the idea that co-sleeping is protective against SIDS. So far all the hard data shows the opposite. Though moms and babies probably are evolved to sleep together, this evolution didn't take place in the context of foam or innerspring mattresses and pillows and blankets for warmth. Probably the safest sleeping arrangement is mom and baby on a straw mat in a tropical climate where no more than a light blanket is needed. At the same time, making it a hotlineable offense is plain silly. Either those proposing it are doing so as a publicity stunt or they're not too bright. Kate and the Bug, 8 months |
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Em wrote:
(crossposted to MKB & MKP) I found out at my LLL meeting tonight that the SIDS taskforce in town is mounting an effort to have co-sleeping deemed a hotlineable offense (i.e. you can be reported to the Division of Family Services *Child Abuse* hotline for co-sleeping with your baby!). Forget the research issue - what about invasion of one's privacy? Like another poster suggested, then people should be reported for smoking in the house of an infant. Contact the ACLU Jeanne |
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"Marie" skrev i en meddelelse ... On 20 Feb 2004 17:49:59 GMT, ojunk (Maryilee) wrote: I don't know what the consequences are, but lately I've noticed at the hospital where I work, that the social worker will be called in to "warn" parents of the "dangers" of co-sleeping. When I had my babies, nothing was ever said to me about keeping them in bed with me in the hospital, and I noticed the nurses would make a note on the chart that the baby was in bed with me. A couple of times I've been told by a nurse that I can put the baby in the bassinet provided. At my hospital - 6 years ago - I was told: Put the baby next to you. You'll both sleep better. You don't need the bassinet. Tine, Denmark |
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A call for help! (co-sleeping research needed)
"Em" wrote in message news:l1gZb.362162$na.548892@attbi_s04...
(crossposted to MKB & MKP) I found out at my LLL meeting tonight that the SIDS taskforce in town is mounting an effort to have co-sleeping deemed a hotlineable offense (i.e. you can be reported to the Division of Family Services *Child Abuse* hotline for co-sleeping with your baby!). Sounds like a urban legend to me. Anyway, as a Breastfeeding Coalition member in my town I have been invited to attend a meeting of the SIDS taskforce (along with the LLL leaders). I don't even know where to begin addressing this proposed co-sleeping issue. So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS risk? I know there are articles out there as well about how breastfeeding can help reduce the risk of SIDS and I would appreciate direction to those as well. I asked this question months ago. At the time no one could find a recent peer reviewed study which compared night time death rates in co-sleepers vs. crib sleepers, and found lower rates for the co-sleepers. One woman claimed she would find the studies, but that was three months ago, and she has never posted any. On the other hand, finding studies showing that co-sleeping is MORE dangerous is easy. There are lots: | Co-Sleeping Safety Data (Update 3: Jan 22, 2004) This is a annotated bibliography covering the safety of co-sleeping with infants. I have included EVERY study, which I can find an on-line abstract (or the entire paper is on line) in English, which meets the following criteria: 1. The research was published in 2000 or later. 2. The research was peer reviewed. 3. The research focused on actual death rates (not suspected causes or mechanisms). 4. The research compared death rates for co-sleepers vs. non-co-sleepers. 5. The research was done in developed (not third world) countries. This bibliography does NOT include editorials, opinion pieces, or letters to the editor. The main sources for these abstracts are PubMed, SCIRUS, and web archives of medical journals. If you find any other studies, please tell me, so I can add them. Summary: of the nine studies found, seven found co-sleeping to be more dangerous than cot sleeping, and two studies found no added danger from co-sleeping. No study found co-sleeping safer than cot sleeping. Not one. Some of the studies focused on SIDS, some focused on suffocation, some covered both. Quotes from the Research: "The most conservative estimate showed that the risk of suffocation increased by 20-fold when infants were placed to sleep in adult beds rather than in cribs. The public should be clearly informed of the attendant risks." [SCHE03] "Almost all SIDS deaths in Alaska occurred in association with prone sleeping, bed sharing, or sleeping outside a crib." [GESS01] "bed sharing showed an increased risk of dying accidentally, when compared with infants sleeping in designated infant containers" [BEAL00] "Bed-sharing appears to increase the proportion of unexplained deaths, regardless of the position of the infant." [THOG00] The Papers: [BEAL00] Sudden infant death syndrome in South Australia 1968-97. Part 3: is bed sharing safe for infants? Beal SM, Byard RW J Paediatr Child Health 2000 Dec 36:552-4 http://reviews.bmn.com/medline/searc...9&refer=scirus "bed sharing showed an increased risk of dying accidentally, when compared with infants sleeping in designated infant containers" [CARP04] Sudden unexplained infant death in 20 regions in Europe: case control study R G Carpenter, L M Irgens, P S Blair, P D England, P Fleming, J Huber, G Jorch, P Schreuder Lancet 2004; 363: 185-91 http://www.thelancet.com "For mothers who did not smoke during pregnancy, OR for bed-sharing was very small (at 2 weeks 2·4 [1·2-4·6]) and only significant during the first 8 weeks of life." One way to phrase this in a one sentence headline is: Co-sleeping with children under 2 months old was a significant risk factor for SIDS. [CARR01] Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Bedsharing, Parental Weight, and Age at Death Cindie Carroll-Pankhurst and Edward A. Mortimer Jr PEDIATRICS Vol. 107 No. 3 March 2001, pp. 530-536 http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...ode=pediatrics "By demonstrating that among an urban population at high risk for SIDS, bedsharing is strongly associated with a younger age at death, independent of any other factors, this study provides evidence of a relationship between some SIDS-like deaths and parent-infant bedsharing, particularly if the parent is large." [FERN03] Sleep Environment and the Risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome in an Urban Population: The Chicago Infant Mortality Study Fern R. Hauck, Stanislaw M. Herman, Mark Donovan, Solomon Iyasu, Cathryn Merrick Moore, Edmund Donoghue, Robert H. Kirschner, and Marian Willinger Pediatrics 2003; 111: 1207-1214 http://pediatrics.aappublications.or.../111/5/S1/1207 "Several factors related to the sleep environment during last sleep were associated with higher risk of SIDS: ... bed sharing overall (OR: 2.7; 95% CI: 1.8–4.2), bed sharing with parent(s) alone (OR: 1.9; 95% CI: 1.2–3.1), and bed sharing in other combinations (OR: 5.4; 95% CI: 2.8–10.2)" [GESS01] Association between sudden infant death syndrome and prone sleep position, bed sharing, and sleeping outside an infant crib in Alaska. Gessner BD, Ives GC, Perham-Hester KA. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract "Almost all SIDS deaths in Alaska occurred in association with prone sleeping, bed sharing, or sleeping outside a crib." [IYAS03] Risk factors for sudden infant death syndrome among northern plains Indians. Iyasu S, Randall LL, Welty TK, Hsia J, Kinney HC, Mandell F, McClain M, Randall B, Habbe D, Wilson H, Willinger M. JAMA. 2002 Dec 4;288(21):2717-23. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract Found that infants who died were more likely to co-sleep (59.4% vs. 55.4%), but this relation was not statistically significant. [SCHE03] Where Should Infants Sleep? A Comparison of Risk for Suffocation of Infants Sleeping in Cribs, Adult Beds, and Other Sleeping Locations N. J. Scheers, PhD, George W. Rutherford, MS and James S. Kemp, MD PEDIATRICS Vol. 112 No. 4 October 2003, pp. 883-889 http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...ode=pediatrics "Reported deaths of infants who suffocated on sleep surfaces other than those designed for infants are increasing. The most conservative estimate showed that the risk of suffocation increased by 20-fold when infants were placed to sleep in adult beds rather than in cribs. The public should be clearly informed of the attendant risks." [THOG00] Sleep position and bed-sharing in sudden infant deaths: An examination of autopsy findings Jon R. Thogmartin MD, Charles F. Siebert, Jr MD and William A. Pellan AS From Palm Beach County Medical Examiner Office, West Palm Beach, Florida. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...f85336bdc6f88d The Journal of Pediatrics Volume 138, Issue 2 , February 2001, Pages 212-217 "Bed-sharing appears to increase the proportion of unexplained deaths, regardless of the position of the infant." [WILL03] Are risk factors for sudden infant death syndrome different at night? Williams SM, Mitchell EA, Taylor BJ. Department of Preventive and Social Medicine, Dunedin School of Medicine, University of Otago, New Zealand. Arch Dis Child. 2002 Oct;87(4):274-8. "The interactions between time of death and bed sharing, not sleeping in a cot or bassinet, ... [several other factors] were also significant, or almost so." Papers Not Listed [ARNE01] Changes in the epidemiological pattern of sudden infant death syndrome in southeast Norway, 1984-1998: implications for future prevention and research. Arnestad M, Andersen M, Vege A , Rognum TO Arch Dis Child 2001 Aug 85:108-15 "For SIDS victims, an increase in the number of infants found dead while co-sleeping is seen" This paper was not included above because it was unclear if the quote was due to the popularity of co-sleeping, or if the rate of death was increasing. [WILL01] Scott Med J. 2001 Apr;46(2):43-7. Sudden unexpected infant deaths in Dundee, 1882-1891: overlying or SIDS? Williams FL, Lang GA, Mage DT. "It might be prudent to inform parents that co-sleeping is a risk factor for SIDS and that it should therefore be avoided." Although this study technically fulfills all the requirements, it's focus on deaths over 100 years ago caused me not to list it above. [MUKA99] Leg Med (Tokyo). 1999 Sep;1(1):18-24. Sleeping environments as risk factors of sudden infant death syndrome in Japan. Mukai T, Tamaki N, Sato Y, Ohno Y, Miyazaki T, Nagamori H, Hara S, Endo T. Department of Forensic Medicine, Tokyo Medical University, 160-8402, Tokyo, Japan "In addition, the co-sleeping habit, which was not uncommon in Japan, seems to contribute to certain deaths of infants whose causes of death were controversial. In the investigation of SIDS, therefore, the sleeping environments, such as bedclothes and the co-sleeping habit, as well as the sleeping position should be taken into consideration as risk factors." This study was published one year before my cut-off, so it is not included above. However because many people claim data from Japan shows the safety of co-sleeping, including it here. Some Famous Papers That Didn't Make It (and Why) The McKenna papers are very popular on AP and co-sleeping web sites, but none are included for two reasons: they are all way too old, and none of them measured actualy death rates in children. Really! These papers which supposedly justify co-sleeping as an anti-SIDS method NEVER studied babies who died of SIDS! A more serious problem with McKenna's work is that it was based on a discredited theory of SIDS. The modern view of McKenna work is that is shows a serious problem with co-sleeping. That co-sleeping infants are under stress. For example: [HUNS02] The sleep of co-sleeping infants when they are not co-sleeping: evidence that co-sleeping is stressful Hunsley M, Thoman EB Dev Psychobiol. 2002 Jan;40(1):14-22. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract "Each of these differences indicates a markedly lower arousal level in the long-term co-sleeping infants. This sleep pattern has been repeatedly found to be an indicator of stress. We infer that a major source of stress for these infants is the experience of sleep disturbance documented for infants when they were co-sleeping. Based on extensive evidence for long-term effects of early stress, we conclude that co-sleeping should have significant implications for infants' neurobehavioral development." The famous 1999 study by the Consumer Product Safty Commission (a US government department responsible for regulating cribs and beds) is not included here because it was published one year before the cut off. It found serious risk associated with co-sleeping, just as all the studies here did. Many people ask about Dr. Sears's research, but I can not find a single peer-reviewed paper every published by Dr. Sears. I have looked at some of his web pages, and although they often state that co-sleeping is protective of SIDS, the papers he cites are typically very hold (mid 1980s to 1990s). He cites papers my McKenna and others in the same lab: Moska, and Richard, which did not study infants with SIDS at all. Other web pages I've seen have vague references to "New Zealand studies" or "British studies", which are not specific enough to track down. I suspect they refer to very old research, but it is impossible to tell. General Background Information Odds ratios (OR) are a way of measuring extra risk. An equally risky activity would have an OR of 1.0 Something three times as dangerous would have an OR of 3.0. For various reasons, odds ratios of less than 2.0 are not usually considered significant. For comparison, the OR for getting lung cancer if you smoke is 20.0. Joshua Levy |
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"Mary W." wrote in message
HollyLewis wrote: So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS risk? You want the research of James McKenna, which is written about extensively by Meredith Small in the book _Our Babies, Ourselves_ (there is a chapter specifically about sleep). Unfortunately, I have no idea how to go about finding actual abstracts or the like on the 'net, but perhaps someone here does. But go get the Small book and use her annotations. Em- Per Holly's suggestion, I looked up McKenna on pubmed and have a word document with his abstracts. Haven't gone through it all, but if you want the abstracts, let me know and I can email it to you. I can get some of the articles in pdf format (especially in the last 6-7 years). Thanks, Mary. I would like the info. The address in the header works if you take out the spam block. Thanks to all who are posting info. I don't have much time to respond, but I'm reading all posts and appreciate it so much! -- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months |
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