A Parenting & kids forum. ParentingBanter.com

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » ParentingBanter.com forum » misc.kids » General
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Would you shoot to protect your family?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old December 14th 03, 05:39 AM
Chris Duvall
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

Situation-Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two
small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams
obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a
Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds
before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Liberal Answer:

"Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!"

"Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done
anything to him that would inspire him to attack?"

"Could we run away? What does my wife think?"

"Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the
knife out of his hand?"

"What does the law say about this situation?"

"Does the Glock have an appropriate safety built into it?"

"Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does
this send to society and my child!"

"Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?"

"Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he just be
content to wound me?"

"If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get
away while he was stabbing me?"

"This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some
friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion."

Conservative Answer:
BANG!

Texan's Answer:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click...
(sounds of reloading).

Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do
you kids think?"

Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."

BANG! BANG! BANG! ! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.
Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy! Were those the Winchester
Silver Tips?"
  #2  
Old December 14th 03, 08:16 AM
R. Steve Walz
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

Chris Duvall wrote:

Situation-Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two
small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams
obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a
Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds
before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Liberal Answer:

"Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!"

-------------
Lie.


[]
Conservative Answer:
BANG!

--------------
Everyone's answer.
The only differencce is whether they'd shoot him if he surrendered.
Steve
  #3  
Old December 14th 03, 04:44 PM
BTR1701
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

In article , "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Chris Duvall wrote:

Situation-Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two
small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams
obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a
Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds
before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Liberal Answer:

"Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!"

-------------
Lie.


[]
Conservative Answer:
BANG!

--------------
Everyone's answer.
The only differencce is whether they'd shoot him if he surrendered.
Steve


Humor just goes right over your head, doesn't it?
  #4  
Old December 14th 03, 09:32 PM
Ivan Gowch
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:39:10 -0500, Chris Duvall
wrote:

==Situation-Question:
==
==You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two
==small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
==knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams
==obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a
==Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds
==before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?
==
==Liberal Answer:
==
=="Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!"
==
=="Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done
==anything to him that would inspire him to attack?"
==
=="Could we run away? What does my wife think?"
==
=="Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the
==knife out of his hand?"
==
=="What does the law say about this situation?"
==
=="Does the Glock have an appropriate safety built into it?"
==
=="Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does
==this send to society and my child!"
==
=="Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?"
==
=="Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he just be
==content to wound me?"
==
=="If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get
==away while he was stabbing me?"
==
=="This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some
==friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion."
==
==Conservative Answer:
==BANG!
==
==Texan's Answer:
==BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click...
==(sounds of reloading).
==
==Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do
==you kids think?"
==
==Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."
==
==BANG! BANG! BANG! ! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.
==Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy! Were those the Winchester
==Silver Tips?"

It's telling that what you are fantasizing about here
is not self-defence, but murder.

If the person under attack is, as you say, an "expert
shot," then he ought to be able to disable the
assailant with one, or perhaps two, well-placed
rounds, which might be survivable. Formal police
training, in fact, teaches that the proper procedure
is to discharge two quick rounds, aimed at the area
of largest body mass. With a Glock 40, that should be
sufficient. If not, then subsequent shots are, of
course, permissible.

Your little adolescent fantasy about firing
repeatedly, reloading if necessary, until the
assailant is dead, would generally be seen
as unacceptable to anyone but a member of
the New York City Police Department and would
probably get you charged with murder.



--
THE RULES
NEVER tell the police anything.
NEVER consent to a search.
NEVER confess.
NEVER discuss your case with others.
NEVER plea bargain.
ALWAYS demand a lawyer.
ALWAYS plead not guilty.
ALWAYS demand a full jury trial.
ALWAYS appeal, if you are convicted.
ALWAYS pass on these rules.
  #5  
Old December 15th 03, 01:07 AM
BTR1701
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

In article , Ivan Gowch
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:39:10 -0500, Chris Duvall
wrote:

==Situation-Question:
==
==You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two
==small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
==knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams
==obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a
==Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds
==before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?
==
==Liberal Answer:
==
=="Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!"
==
=="Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done
==anything to him that would inspire him to attack?"
==
=="Could we run away? What does my wife think?"
==
=="Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the
==knife out of his hand?"
==
=="What does the law say about this situation?"
==
=="Does the Glock have an appropriate safety built into it?"
==
=="Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does
==this send to society and my child!"
==
=="Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?"
==
=="Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he just be
==content to wound me?"
==
=="If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get
==away while he was stabbing me?"
==
=="This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some
==friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion."
==
==Conservative Answer:
==BANG!
==
==Texan's Answer:
==BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click...
==(sounds of reloading).
==
==Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do
==you kids think?"
==
==Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."
==
==BANG! BANG! BANG! ! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.
==Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy! Were those the Winchester
==Silver Tips?"

It's telling that what you are fantasizing about here
is not self-defence, but murder.


Who said it's a fantasy?

It's just a joke.

Goddamn, some people have no sense of humor. Lighten up.
  #6  
Old December 15th 03, 02:11 AM
_ G O D _
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?


"BTR1701" wrote in message
...


It's telling that what you are fantasizing about here
is not self-defence, but murder.


Who said it's a fantasy?

It's just a joke.

Goddamn, some people have no sense of humor. Lighten up.


No, it's not a joke, stupid. If you think it's a joke, then it's an obvious
indication of how badly you have been ****ed up and your mind is totally
warped. In fact, its far beyond the borders of perversion.

Your capitalist police state have created those who'd offer a dick to other
people's child by calling an "orphan". An if he'd say "I'm not an orphan",
the man will pull out a gun and make him an orphan by shooting his parents.
Than, after adopting him as own child, he'd pull out a dick and say "hey,
son, take my dick"...

That was an old, anti-capitalist-ameri**** joke... Do you see the
difference now?


  #7  
Old December 15th 03, 02:15 AM
swatcop
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

(snip)
It's telling that what you are fantasizing about here
is not self-defence, but murder.

If the person under attack is, as you say, an "expert
shot," then he ought to be able to disable the
assailant with one, or perhaps two, well-placed
rounds, which might be survivable. Formal police
training, in fact, teaches that the proper procedure
is to discharge two quick rounds, aimed at the area
of largest body mass. With a Glock 40, that should be
sufficient. If not, then subsequent shots are, of
course, permissible.

Your little adolescent fantasy about firing
repeatedly, reloading if necessary, until the
assailant is dead, would generally be seen
as unacceptable to anyone but a member of
the New York City Police Department and would
probably get you charged with murder.

First of all, I believe the message was a JOKE. That's HUMOR or FUNNY if you
don't comprende. Talk about ANAL.

Second of all, since you want to make it serious, you're dead wrong about
shooting to "disable" someone. If you are in fear for your life or the life
of another, then deadly force is justified. Being an "expert shot" is great,
but not necessary, to land a couple of slugs in the assailant's center mass
(middle of his chest). If you're really in FEAR, then you're not going to
take the time to line up the sights and try to hit his moving leg which is
running at you (and you probably won't hit anyway). You're much better off
to use (for example) the Israeli technique, wherin you basically point and
shoot without utilizing the sights. If you practice with this technique
you'd be amazed how accurate you can be without even looking at your sights.
As far as you little "dig" about the NYPD being murderers, well, you can
stick it up your ass. Pin on a shield and do what we (cops) do for a day and
then get back to me about shooting to disable people and other related
subjects. Until you KNOW what you are talking about, don't make statements -
ask questions - you'll look like less of an assclown.
--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."

--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."


  #8  
Old December 15th 03, 03:09 AM
Chris
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?


"_ G O D _" wrote in message
news:JL8Db.704257$6C4.331515@pd7tw1no...

To protect my family, I'd rip a man to pieces with my bare hands, feed the
remains to wild dogs, and watch as they nourish themselves with the marrow.

What do you think about that?


  #9  
Old December 15th 03, 03:44 AM
BTR1701
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?

In article JL8Db.704257$6C4.331515@pd7tw1no, "_ G O D _"
wrote:

"BTR1701" wrote in message
...


It's telling that what you are fantasizing about here
is not self-defence, but murder.


Who said it's a fantasy?

It's just a joke.

Goddamn, some people have no sense of humor. Lighten up.


No, it's not a joke, stupid. If you think it's a joke, then it's an
obvious indication of how badly you have been ****ed up and your mind is totally
warped. In fact, its far beyond the borders of perversion.


Well, we've already established that you're insane so no big surprise
that you can't take a joke.

Your capitalist police state have created those who'd offer a dick to
other people's child by calling an "orphan". An if he'd say "I'm not an
orphan", the man will pull out a gun and make him an orphan by shooting his
parents. Than, after adopting him as own child, he'd pull out a dick and say "hey,
son, take my dick"...


See what I mean? You're just a loon.
  #10  
Old December 15th 03, 04:41 AM
Just an Observer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Would you shoot to protect your family?


"_ G O D _" wrote in message
news:JL8Db.704257$6C4.331515@pd7tw1no...

"BTR1701" wrote in message
...


It's telling that what you are fantasizing about here
is not self-defence, but murder.


Who said it's a fantasy?

It's just a joke.

Goddamn, some people have no sense of humor. Lighten up.


No, it's not a joke, stupid. If you think it's a joke, then it's an

obvious
indication of how badly you have been ****ed up and your mind is totally
warped. In fact, its far beyond the borders of perversion.

Your capitalist police state have created those who'd offer a dick to

other
people's child by calling an "orphan". An if he'd say "I'm not an

orphan",
the man will pull out a gun and make him an orphan by shooting his

parents.
Than, after adopting him as own child, he'd pull out a dick and say "hey,
son, take my dick"...

That was an old, anti-capitalist-ameri**** joke... Do you see the
difference now?

Gee Vadiot, another who disagrees with you?


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NO state PASSES CPS Federal audit-no family does, either Fern5827 General 0 September 26th 03 01:27 AM
| Law Firm joins pro bono effort to reform foster care Kane General 0 September 25th 03 04:04 PM
CO, Colorado DHS tries to label homeschool family neglectful Fern5827 General 0 August 22nd 03 08:18 AM
easy part songs for family singing? H Schinske General 4 July 25th 03 09:44 PM
Nanny needs a wonderful family in MA. It's always something General 0 July 9th 03 03:58 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 ParentingBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.