Unusually Sleepy Baby

Anne Rogers wrote:
Jabs? No, I have no idea about that sort of thng! Maybe it is time to make
a doctor appointment for this... hmmmm

I've no idea about what the system is in other places, but we get automatic
notifications through the post, plus reminders if we don't go. As far as I
know the vaccination schedule is quite similar across the western world
beinging with a series of 3 jabs and 2,3,4 months protecting against
Diptheria, Tetanus, Pertusiss, Menigitis C and a few more...

Anne

Yes, it's the same here - actually, they get 4 shots at the 2 month
mark. I don't think anyone reminds you about it, though. It gets
mentioned at the first public health nurse visit, when they're first
home, and then at the 1 week well baby visit to the doctor's, and then
you're on your own to book an appointment.

Sometimes, whether they're fighting off a cold, or growing, or just
having an off day, my babies would sleep practically all day, and then
sleep well that night, too.

Right now, though, my baby has a bunch of short naps between 9 am and 9
pm, adding up to maybe 2 hrs total (little 10-15 minute stretches,
mostly), and then wakes 4 times in the night, and at least one of those
times is for 1-2 hours. Fun times!!

Melania

I think that it might be the tryptophan in the turkey that is causing the
sleepiness. I have noticed times when I had turkey that Rhiannon would have
a good sleep afterwards as well. (I should have turkey more often :-))
Tryptophan is an amino acid present in Turkey that makes us sleepy when we
eat it, I can't see any reason why it wouldn't pass through the breastmilk
and make the baby sleepy as well.


"Cuddlefish" wrote in message
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So as you know, it was Thanksgiving long weekend here in Canada. On
Sunday I had a turkey dinner, and yesterday I had two turkey buns from
the leftovers. I drank alcohol too, but no more than what I drink
typically with meals. DS [2 months] is exclusively breastfed.

Well he has been asleep since say 11am, and it is 6pm now! He sleeps
very well at nights but seldom has long stretches more than 3 hours
during the day. I've been feeding him while he has been sleeping, and
woke him up to change his very soiled diaper at 5pm.

Was it the turkey dinner? Do babies do this from time to time? Is there
a reason for long sleepy days like this?

Jacqueline
#1 DS born 10th August 2005

Sidheag McCormack wrote:
Cocoamum writes:

Cuddlefish wrote:
So as you know, it was Thanksgiving long weekend here in Canada. On
Sunday I had a turkey dinner, and yesterday I had two turkey buns from
the leftovers. I drank alcohol too, but no more than what I drink
typically with meals. DS [2 months] is exclusively breastfed.

"...no more than what I drink typically with meals"

We'll freze the picture a moment.....

Do you regularly drink with meals?

I know that the amount of alcohol the baby gets is very little, but
every day?

I must admit I'm shocked.

I'm surprised you're shocked! Don't know about Cocoamum, but I drink some
alcohol most days, in the sense that most evenings I have a glass of wine
with my evening meal. I stay within the normal recommendations that apply
to all adult women - for the avoidance of doubt about which guidelines, I
mean no more than 14 units per week, no more than 3 units on any one day,
at least 2 alcohol-free days per week - but I don't restrict alcohol any
more than that because I'm breastfeeding. There's neither any good
empirical evidence, nor any reasonable theoretical argument, that it's
beneficial to do so.

Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003

I am very much like you, Sidheag!

I probably have 7-9 alcohol units a week, it's very rare that I would
have 3 on a given day, but not unheard of, and I certainly enjoy a
glass of wine or a cocktail in the evening frequently.

I was surprised she was shocked, too!

Melania

Here it's needles at 2, 4 and 6 months as well as 12 and 18 but 12 and 18
are different vaccines. If your baby was born after 2005, then you also get
the Prevnar vaccine at 2, 4, 6, and 12 for free. If your baby was born
before 2005 and you want the Prevnar, you have to shell out about $90 per
dose, but it is covered under insurance if you have it.


"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
...
Jabs? No, I have no idea about that sort of thng! Maybe it is time to
make
a doctor appointment for this... hmmmm

I've no idea about what the system is in other places, but we get
automatic
notifications through the post, plus reminders if we don't go. As far as I
know the vaccination schedule is quite similar across the western world
beinging with a series of 3 jabs and 2,3,4 months protecting against
Diptheria, Tetanus, Pertusiss, Menigitis C and a few more...

Anne

Anne Rogers writes:

true, I'd forgotten it wouldn't be the alcohol in the beer that causes
that, but it does give pause for thought, without knowing the exact
biochemistry of how alchohol affects the body over time it would be
difficult to say for sure, is the hour per unit a half life, or to
completely clear?

To clear to undetectable levels, I believe. It's only a rough guideline of
course, and will vary with lots of factors. However, it's safe to assume
that if you drink a glass of wine at 7pm, there is no detectable level of
alcohol in your blood or your milk at 7am the next day.

I think it's fair to say that the biochemistry of how alcohol affects the
body over time is *very* well understood, compared to the state of
knowledge for almost any other substance - lots of people are interested in
it! That's not the same as saying that it's very well understood by me of
course...

Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003

I think it's fair to say that the biochemistry of how alcohol affects the
body over time is *very* well understood, compared to the state of
knowledge for almost any other substance - lots of people are interested
in
it! That's not the same as saying that it's very well understood by me of
course...

LOL that was what I meant, not understood by me, if I get a moment I will
find the stuff about inhibiting let down, I've always been baffelled by your
not letting down at all for the pump, many people struggle, but you are the
worse I've come across.

Anne

Anne Rogers writes:

LOL that was what I meant, not understood by me, if I get a moment I
will find the stuff about inhibiting let down, I've always been
baffelled by your not letting down at all for the pump, many people
struggle, but you are the worse I've come across.

:-) gee, thanks :-) (Actually, I've heard about several people who are as
bad as me, though I don't remember names. Of course most people who are as
bad as me give up sooner, and then everyone just gets to say "oh well, if
you'd kept trying..." :-))

Seriously, if you find anything solid about what inhibits letdown and why,
please let me know just for interest - I don't think I've ever seen any
more than assertions. I don't think alcohol can be relevant, given the
timings, but I'd be interested in what *else* can inhibit letdown. I have a
theory that it has a common mechanism with other oxytocin-involving things,
like labour and er um :-) Remember I had this really weird labour, which
seemed to be very strongly affected by not being very happy with the
midwife, and with contractions never closer than 5 minutes? I um, also
don't function ideally in the other well-known oxytocin situation unless
circumstances are just right (and if they are, I'm fine - just as if Colin
is nursing, I have no trouble letting down). I think maybe my body's
oxytocin-whatever just doesn't work properly unless the circumstances are
just so.

Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003

In article ,
Sidheag McCormack wrote:

Anne Rogers writes:

LOL that was what I meant, not understood by me, if I get a moment I
will find the stuff about inhibiting let down, I've always been
baffelled by your not letting down at all for the pump, many people
struggle, but you are the worse I've come across.

:-) gee, thanks :-) (Actually, I've heard about several people who are as
bad as me, though I don't remember names.

(waving)
--
Sara
accompanied by TK, number two, due in April of 2006

"Anonymama" wrote

:-) gee, thanks :-) (Actually, I've heard about several people who are
as
bad as me, though I don't remember names.

(waving)

I have a friend who's bf six babies, has tandemed at least three times and
swears that she's never managed to express as much as a spoonful.

Jean

--
DD - June '02
DS - May '05

:-) gee, thanks :-) (Actually, I've heard about several people who are as
bad as me, though I don't remember names. Of course most people who are as
bad as me give up sooner, and then everyone just gets to say "oh well, if
you'd kept trying..." :-))

well seems I am proved wrong, but you having a baby at a similar time,
living in the same country and iirc working in the same industry probably
made me remember you more clearly

Seriously, if you find anything solid about what inhibits letdown and why,
please let me know just for interest - I don't think I've ever seen any
more than assertions. I don't think alcohol can be relevant, given the
timings, but I'd be interested in what *else* can inhibit letdown. I have
a
theory that it has a common mechanism with other oxytocin-involving
things,
like labour and er um :-) Remember I had this really weird labour, which
seemed to be very strongly affected by not being very happy with the
midwife, and with contractions never closer than 5 minutes? I um, also
don't function ideally in the other well-known oxytocin situation unless
circumstances are just right (and if they are, I'm fine - just as if Colin
is nursing, I have no trouble letting down). I think maybe my body's
oxytocin-whatever just doesn't work properly unless the circumstances are
just so.

yes I do remember, in fact I looked it up for someone not long ago, I'm
trying to make myself very aware of how different things affect different
people, having had 2 precipitate labours it's very difficult for me to
imagine not reacting well to oxytocin, I was very much not in the right
frame of mind or happy with the situation when Ada was born, but like it or
lump it I was in transition with no prior warning, so the idea of
contractions stopping when a particular midwife comes into the room is very
very difficult to imagine and if it had happened would have been a welcome
break rather than a frustrating stall.

Anne