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Survey: best name for a newborn baby boy?
enigma wrote:
Jeff wrote in news:GuS9i.9633$fX4.2944@trndny03: It is also unkind to spam. That is what the OP is doing. He doesn't care about popular names. He cares about getting money. unless he's the owner of pollspace, which i sincerely doubt, he's not getting any money for people looking at or clicking on his poll. therefore, it is not spamming. The site has advertising from Google. So he may be getting royalties from that or a cut that the site gets. Plus, he is essentially advertising for the site. I have seen his spam on other newsgroups. i don't like spam any more than you do (& probably less, since i was a sys admin at an ISP), but you really need to get a grip sometimes Jeff why don't you get a real newsreader, with real filters, & save yourself some aggrivation? lee I worked for an ISP, too (I was a release engineer). The spam cut into the company's profits, because they need a few engineers to deal with the problem, more servers to handle the load, etc. That indirectly lowered the value of my options because the company had lower profits to report. As already pointed out, newsreaders only filter out things after you've seen similar things. But the way, I am not very aggravated at the spammers. They're mostly trying to make a living. But not at my expense. Jeff |
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Survey: best name for a newborn baby boy?
In article , toypup says...
On 7 Jun 2007 07:53:36 -0700, Banty wrote: In article , toypup says... On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:01:57 +0000 (UTC), enigma wrote: JohnZhang wrote in ups.com: What do you think among these 3 choices? thanks for any input! http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.ph...=75&category=0 did you mean to use Nicolas, Steven (Stephen) or Robert? i certainly hope so, because actually naming the poor child with a diminuative is unkind. it's hard enough to get along in the adult world without being saddled with a 'baby nickname' as your given name. Maybe the guy doesn't know English and those names sound fine in his language? And if we proposed Sasha or Dima for a boy child, and a Russian speaker object that those are diminuitives for real names, would you accept as a defense "oh well, we don't know Russian and those names sound fine in our language"? It's a perfectly valid objection. Banty Yes, in their own country. In our country, the child would not feel saddled with a diminuitive, because the majority of the people would not know it is a diminuitive. SIL has a foreign name which sounds fine here. When she went to the country from which it origniates, the natives were puzzled, because it would not be something anyone there would want to name their own child. IL's found it amusing, because they were trying to give her a name related to her roots. SIL has never felt saddled with that name, neither as an adult nor as a child. But it's a smaller and smaller world. I don't think it's a good idea to plead ignorance, even ignorance of most folks in one's locale, in using a name from a different culture. Even one's own ancestral culture. Although the case you mention sounds more like maybe it was a matter of using a rather old-fasioned or outmoded name or version of it... ?? If not, (or even if so) see, something was lost in her being able to connect to her country of ancestral origin because of this. Knowledge is a good thing, y'know. Banty |
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On 7 Jun 2007 10:15:57 -0700, Banty wrote:
In article , toypup says... SIL has a foreign name which sounds fine here. When she went to the country from which it origniates, the natives were puzzled, because it would not be something anyone there would want to name their own child. IL's found it amusing, because they were trying to give her a name related to her roots. SIL has never felt saddled with that name, neither as an adult nor as a child. But it's a smaller and smaller world. I don't think it's a good idea to plead ignorance, even ignorance of most folks in one's locale, in using a name from a different culture. Even one's own ancestral culture. Well, sometimes people know how it's supposed to be done in another locale but just don't care? Heck, they don't care when it's not done in their own locale. Just look at all those unique apellings. Eventually, it becomes more acceptable. Although the case you mention sounds more like maybe it was a matter of using a rather old-fasioned or outmoded name or version of it... ?? If not, (or even if so) see, something was lost in her being able to connect to her country of ancestral origin because of this. Knowledge is a good thing, y'know. Banty I think it was a name for a river or something and people there didn't name themselves after rivers. Actually, the name is very common here in America. You wouldn't think it's a foreign name. It just was strange in the country from which everyone "knows" it originates. So, Joe may one day become a commmon name in China and no one there will a rat's *ss there that it's not done that way here. And I don't think we'd care much if somemone from there came over here calling himself Joe, either. Do you? |
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Survey: best name for a newborn baby boy?
Lee wrote:
did you mean to use Nicolas, Steven (Stephen) or Robert? i certainly hope so, because actually naming the poor child with a diminuative is unkind. it's hard enough to get along in the adult world without being saddled with a 'baby nickname' as your given name. Mary laughs: WAAAAAAY true. In high school, my boyfriend sent a way to get a copy of his birth certificate - and was flat out horrified his parents had actually registered his name as "Ricky" instead of Richard. Probably seemed cute when he was a rolly polly bundle of joy, but not so cute when he was grown up. |
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On Jun 7, 11:26 am, toypup wrote:
On 7 Jun 2007 07:53:36 -0700, Banty wrote: In article , toypup says... On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:01:57 +0000 (UTC), enigma wrote: JohnZhang wrote in groups.com: What do you think among these 3 choices? thanks for any input! http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.ph...=75&category=0 did you mean to use Nicolas, Steven (Stephen) or Robert? i certainly hope so, because actually naming the poor child with a diminuative is unkind. it's hard enough to get along in the adult world without being saddled with a 'baby nickname' as your given name. Maybe the guy doesn't know English and those names sound fine in his language? And if we proposed Sasha or Dima for a boy child, and a Russian speaker object that those are diminuitives for real names, would you accept as a defense "oh well, we don't know Russian and those names sound fine in our language"? It's a perfectly valid objection. Banty Yes, in their own country. In our country, the child would not feel saddled with a diminuitive, because the majority of the people would not know it is a diminuitive. Call me a stickler but I think any name should be used properly. I'm not at all bothered by 'foreign' names, just use them (and spell them) correctly! |
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On 8 Jun 2007 05:16:16 -0700, Banty wrote:
He could legally change his name, too! He could take some street name. Sure, there's always some recourse. But usually, it just doesn't work the way you suggest. Names can stick early, and nicknames are used with some awareness that it's a nickname. Even if he could manage what you suggest, your "Richard" will need to step up to receive his high school diploma by the name "Ricky" nonetheless. Banty For many reasons (none illegal), I've managed to go through life with quite a few aliases. I've had my name legally changed and I have a number of nicknames. It isn't as difficult as you might imagine. Sure, my parents will call me by my given name, but they also use one of my nicknames and enough people use whatever name I give them that I can maintain all my aliases. It is expecially useful when someone calls me by name and I can't recall who it is. Depending on what they call me, I can at least place how I'm supposed to know them. Honestly, you may think it's a legal thing, but if "Ricky" wants to go down the aisle as "Richard," I honestly don't think the school would protest. The pronouncement of his name would be honored as much as someone preferring "Tom" over "Thomas." In fact, when I walked, I remember just having my name on a piece of paper and telling them how I want them to say my name, writing it out phonetically, because the names weren't written on the diplomas until after the ceremony. The only time I must use my legal name is on legal papers, like the mortgage. I just explain how my aliases work (they don't ever insist on a driver's license) and it's fine. Speaking from experience, changing your name or living with nicknames is very easy. |
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Survey: best name for a newborn baby boy?
toypup wrote:
On 8 Jun 2007 05:16:16 -0700, Banty wrote: He could legally change his name, too! He could take some street name. Sure, there's always some recourse. But usually, it just doesn't work the way you suggest. Names can stick early, and nicknames are used with some awareness that it's a nickname. Even if he could manage what you suggest, your "Richard" will need to step up to receive his high school diploma by the name "Ricky" nonetheless. Banty For many reasons (none illegal), I've managed to go through life with quite a few aliases. I've had my name legally changed and I have a number of nicknames. It isn't as difficult as you might imagine. Sure, my parents will call me by my given name, but they also use one of my nicknames and enough people use whatever name I give them that I can maintain all my aliases. It is expecially useful when someone calls me by name and I can't recall who it is. Depending on what they call me, I can at least place how I'm supposed to know them. Honestly, you may think it's a legal thing, but if "Ricky" wants to go down the aisle as "Richard," I honestly don't think the school would protest. The pronouncement of his name would be honored as much as someone preferring "Tom" over "Thomas." In fact, when I walked, I remember just having my name on a piece of paper and telling them how I want them to say my name, writing it out phonetically, because the names weren't written on the diplomas until after the ceremony. The only time I must use my legal name is on legal papers, like the mortgage. I just explain how my aliases work (they don't ever insist on a driver's license) and it's fine. Speaking from experience, changing your name or living with nicknames is very easy. Shep Nuland was born Sherwin Nudelman. Shep is a surgeon and medical historian at Yale the author of How We Die, Doctors and other very good books. He and his brother changed their last name in 1947. (Shep is his nickname.) In his book, Lost in America: A Journey with My Father, Shep described what it is like to legally change his family name. That is different from legally changing his first name. For him, it was a big step forward into a wider American life from his life with his immigrant father who did speak English well and who wet himself more or less continually (his dad had a bladder problem as a result of a bacterial infection that spread to his spinal cord and brain). I also knew another man who changed his last name so it wasn't so Jewish sounding (he was Catholic). We never discussed it, but I don't think it was a bid deal for him (it was a one letter change). Jeff |
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