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  #51  
Old May 19th 04, 11:48 PM
Gini52
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In article , The DaveŠ says...

P.Fritz wrote:
It can be modified, but at least not retroactively. In theory, of
course.


Of course they can raise it retroactrively, just never decrease it
:-)


Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is done,
it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively. For
example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo, the CP
can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002, but the
judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional money prior to
the modification request, prior to July 2002. In general
circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by judge's
decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.
=====
=====

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  #52  
Old May 19th 04, 11:48 PM
Gini52
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In article , The DaveŠ says...

P.Fritz wrote:
It can be modified, but at least not retroactively. In theory, of
course.


Of course they can raise it retroactrively, just never decrease it
:-)


Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is done,
it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively. For
example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo, the CP
can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002, but the
judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional money prior to
the modification request, prior to July 2002. In general
circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by judge's
decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.
=====
=====

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown


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  #53  
Old May 19th 04, 11:48 PM
Gini52
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Default What do think????

In article , The DaveŠ says...

P.Fritz wrote:
It can be modified, but at least not retroactively. In theory, of
course.


Of course they can raise it retroactrively, just never decrease it
:-)


Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is done,
it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively. For
example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo, the CP
can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002, but the
judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional money prior to
the modification request, prior to July 2002. In general
circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by judge's
decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.
=====
=====

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown


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  #54  
Old May 20th 04, 12:08 AM
The DaveŠ
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Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown
  #55  
Old May 20th 04, 12:08 AM
The DaveŠ
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Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown
  #56  
Old May 20th 04, 12:08 AM
The DaveŠ
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Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown
  #57  
Old May 20th 04, 12:08 AM
The DaveŠ
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Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown
  #58  
Old May 20th 04, 12:26 AM
Gini52
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Default What do think????

In article , The DaveŠ says...

Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

====
And I can't remember how many times I've told NCPs that "notorized" does not a
formal agreement make. The judge can take it or leave it, usually depending on
the mood he/she is in. A lot of NCPs have fallen into this trap so it bears
mentioning again. So we did :-)
====

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown


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  #59  
Old May 20th 04, 12:26 AM
Gini52
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Default What do think????

In article , The DaveŠ says...

Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

====
And I can't remember how many times I've told NCPs that "notorized" does not a
formal agreement make. The judge can take it or leave it, usually depending on
the mood he/she is in. A lot of NCPs have fallen into this trap so it bears
mentioning again. So we did :-)
====

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown


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  #60  
Old May 20th 04, 12:26 AM
Gini52
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Default What do think????

In article , The DaveŠ says...

Gini52 wrote:
Ok, now wait. I was under the impression that once an order is
done, it can be modified later, but not increased retroactively.
For example, if an order is established in June 1995 for $200/mo,
the CP can go back and ask for an increase to $350/mo in July 2002,
but the judge cannot order a retroactive increase for additional
money prior to the modification request, prior to July 2002. In
general circumstances, not instances of fraud, or withholding income
information, etc.

=====
Generally true--However, the key is that the "first" order is by
judge's decree--not an agreement between parents, even if notorized.


Right. That's what I was trying to get at. It need's to be "judge
approved", not 'informal' between the two parties.

====
And I can't remember how many times I've told NCPs that "notorized" does not a
formal agreement make. The judge can take it or leave it, usually depending on
the mood he/she is in. A lot of NCPs have fallen into this trap so it bears
mentioning again. So we did :-)
====

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown


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