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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:51:11 -0000, Myrl
wrote: On Sep 2, 10:40 am, Peter Parry wrote: To a degree I can agree with that, Peter. My thinking is however, that "evidence" emanating from universities, and colleges, which are also in the business of creating the conventional medicine practioners have a conflict of interest. The University of Exeter has a Department of Complementary Medicine, and a Centre for Complementary Health Studies. It is headed by Professor Edzard Ernst the holder of the only UK Chair in Complementary Medicine. Professor Ernst qualified as a physician in Germany in 1978 where he also completed his MD and PhD theses. He has received training in acupuncture, autogenic training, herbalism, homoeopathy, massage therapy and spinal manipulation. He was Professor in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation (PMR) at Hannover Medical School and Head of the PMR Department at the University of Vienna. They are also snagging significant amounts of money for studies, to foist the drug agendas of pharmaseudical companies. Therefore it's possibly unlikely, these institutions will come up with reliable findings and evidence. The Exeter Department was initially funded by the Maurice Laing Foundation a private grant-making trust one of the aims of which is "the scientific research into efficacy of complementary health treatments and their integration into general medicine". It continues to be funded by the Rufford Maurice Laing Foundation which shares the same aims. To date it has not received funds, directly or indirectly, from drug companies. The establishment of the Department to scientifically study Complimentary Medicine was vigorously opposed not by pharmaceutical companies but by the proponents of homeopathy and similar "alternative" treatments who were, quite rightly, terrified of being exposed as charlatans. At the core of Ernsts approach is rigorous science. It was this objective rigour which caused dismay to many "practitioners". As he said:- "It sounded to me so inoffensive that it was a huge surprise that people were up in arms. Some claimed that their individualised and holistic methods defy testing by randomised clinical trial. When I'm being polite I say this is based on a misunderstanding of what science is about. When I'm being less polite I say these people are mad." "Virtually from the word go I've had problems with the complementary camp. Sometimes it subsides. But then as soon as we publish a negative result it flares up. We are champions so long as we produce positive results, but enemies when we produce negative ones." Most of the departments studies, specifically those for Homeopathy, have produced negative results. What they have shown is that therapies with the most promising evidence for efficacy are those with a psychological component. http://www.pms.ac.uk/compmed/ They publish the "The Desktop Guide to Complementary and Alternative Medicine: an Evidence-based Approach" ISBN 0-7234-3207-4 Some of it is available at http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=K_KEguo5BL4C&dq=&pg=PP1&ots=2RjrgKMYpJ&si g=iCaKAa012kXKQJK3Luu2Nty6bPQ&prev=http://www.google.co.uk/search%3Fq%3DDesktop%2BGuide%2BTo%2BComplementary% 2BAnd%2BAlternative%2BMedicine%253A%2BAn%2BEvidenc e%2BBased%2BApproach%2B%26sourceid%3Dnavclient-ff%26ie%3DUTF-8%26rlz%3D1B3GGGL_enGB177GB215&sa=X&oi=print&ct=ti tle#PPA75,M1 They are also involved with the Focus on Alternative and Complimentary Therapies http://www.medicinescomplete.com/journals/fact/current/ Time and time again homeopathy has proven to be ineffective, if people are daft enough to pay for it that is their choice. What they can't expect is for the state to pander to their irrationality by funding useless treatments. -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
"JOHN" wrote:
"Peter Parry" wrote in message .. . Wouldn't this be more correctly expressed as "The homeopathy industry is worried for its future as more and more evidence shows it is ineffective and based upon a fallacy" -- LOL. That's allopathy So you don't like chiropractic and naturopathy, John? They're both allopathy according to the person who invented the word. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
On Sep 2, 2:02 pm, Peter Parry wrote:
The establishment of the Department to scientifically study Complimentary Medicine was vigorously opposed not by pharmaceutical companies but by the proponents of homeopathy and similar "alternative" treatments who were, quite rightly, terrified of being exposed as charlatans. Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ If that is true - then that is frightening! And a total loss of excellent funding in an excellent institution. |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:05:21 +0100, "JOHN" wrote: http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2919644.ece (URL no longer works - imagine that!) Works perfectly, there goes another conspiracy theory. According to Dr Peter Fisher, clinical director of the Royal London Homoeopathic Hospital, there has been a 20 per cent reduction in referrals to the hospital in the past year, as new patients are refused funding by a growing number of primary care trusts. That's because homeopathy is ineffective. Dr Fisher, whose patients include the supermodel Claudia Schiffer, pointed to the fact that some six million people in the UK use complementary therapies each year. Advocates include David Beckham and Catherine Zeta-Jones. Three advocates with the brain of an Avocado between them? Is that the best you can come up with? How about some objective proof rather than brainless "celebs"? Dr Fisher said: "There are some patients with conditions that prescription drugs alone do not help. Indeed, and Homeopathy is a moderately useful form of psychotherapy, but it doesn't cure any physical illness. Sure it does: dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome. Just a few glasses and you are cured. Dr Fisher said. "The pharmaceutical industry is worried for its future, as public opinion is shifting towards complementary therapies." Wouldn't this be more correctly expressed as "The homeopathy industry is worried for its future as more and more evidence shows it is ineffective and based upon a fallacy" |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... The establishment of the Department to scientifically study Complimentary Medicine was vigorously opposed not by pharmaceutical companies but by the proponents of homeopathy and similar "alternative" treatments who were, quite rightly, terrified of being exposed as charlatans. At the core of Ernsts approach is rigorous science. It was this objective rigour which caused dismay to many "practitioners". LOL!!. Ernst is just pharma shill http://www.whale.to/a/ernst_h.html Complementary medicine: Allopathic approved term for alternative medicine that will work with Allopathy without rocking the Allopathic boat. http://www.whale.to/b/terminology_h.html |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
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JOHN wrote: "Peter Parry" wrote in message .. . The establishment of the Department to scientifically study Complimentary Medicine was vigorously opposed not by pharmaceutical companies but by the proponents of homeopathy and similar "alternative" treatments who were, quite rightly, terrified of being exposed as charlatans. At the core of Ernsts approach is rigorous science. It was this objective rigour which caused dismay to many "practitioners". LOL!!. Ernst is just pharma shill http://www.whale.to/a/ernst_h.html Pharma shill: anyone who says anything John doesn't want to hear. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "[Republicans] talk about Reagan the way gay guys talk about Barbra Streisand." -- Bill Maher |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
"JOHN" wrote in message
... http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2919644.ece (URL no longer works - imagine that!) Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis By Nina Lakhani Homeopathy (if that's what you are referring to) is useless quack "medicine". Or are you referring to something to do with homosexuality? |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
"King Bruno the Questionable" wrote in message ... "JOHN" wrote in message ... http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2919644.ece (URL no longer works - imagine that!) Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis By Nina Lakhani Homeopathy (if that's what you are referring to) is useless quack "medicine". Or are you referring to something to do with homosexuality? me1 is still full of crap I see. |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
"King Bruno the Questionable" wrote in message ... "JOHN" wrote in message ... http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2919644.ece (URL no longer works - imagine that!) Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis By Nina Lakhani Homeopathy (if that's what you are referring to) is useless quack "medicine". Or are you referring to something to do with homosexuality? wonder which pharma moron this is, any guess? Kinghoff? |
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Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis
On Sep 4, 6:29 am, "King Bruno the Questionable"
Queen's doctor warns of homoeopathy crisis By Nina Lakhani Homeopathy(if that's what you are referring to) is useless quack "medicine". Or are you referring to something to do with homosexuality? He was referring to the the NYC borough. The Brooklyn doctor warned of an allopathy crisis. |
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