mental health worker in this newsgroup is trying to screw with your head

the dirty secret is mental cases get into psychology to figure out why
they're so ****ed up...........then some of them then think they're
cured enough to straighten out everyone else's
problems...........what's wrong with you becomes more important than
how to help you...........the best advice is to talk to a trusted
friend..............the advantage is they will listen without trying to
analyze what's wrong with YOU and label you.............bureaucracies
try to make you helpless...........you aren't smart enough to get an
education or solve your own problems...........convincing you of that
fact justifies their otherwise worthless existence.............

It appears you've had some personal problems. Often the people who
believe what you state are the people that have had emotional problems.
And often individuals with emotional problems don't have a "trusted
friend" due to the issues many emotional problems create.

So, now could we get back to the topic of this ng?

LaVonne

wrote:

the dirty secret is mental cases get into psychology to figure out why
they're so ****ed up...........then some of them then think they're
cured enough to straighten out everyone else's
problems...........what's wrong with you becomes more important than
how to help you...........the best advice is to talk to a trusted
friend..............the advantage is they will listen without trying to
analyze what's wrong with YOU and label you.............bureaucracies
try to make you helpless...........you aren't smart enough to get an
education or solve your own problems...........convincing you of that
fact justifies their otherwise worthless existence.............

ooooooooooooh, now this is precious..............what do you suppose my
"personal problems" might be...............your proof is
___________.................is english a first language with
you..............anyone who would write, "often individuals with
emotional problems don't have a 'trusted friend' due to the issues many
emotional problems create," is better in talking in circles than in
lucidity.............oh, and this is the topic of this
newsgroup...........a small group of imbecilic nitwits has adopted an
air of superiority the befits a little clique in a small town high
school..............you don't like those who think differently than
you...........they pose a threat.............in your mind, they must be
done away with even if they are the majority because you have to be
right..........you always have to be right............so, forgive my
asking such a self-important person as yourself, but just where is it
that i have said parents must spank their children.............

whenever you get someone saying things like, "i've worked in prisons
and mental health settings"............"the mental health treatment
facility were i worked many years ago"............"i had to figure out
ways to quite myself and gentle my expressions and body language to do
mental health work. someone with my background tends to be too macho
appearing"...........you are dealing with someone who has been paid to
find out what is wrong with whoever comes through the
door............they don't listen...........they label.............the
problem is always on the other side of the table.............that
really is the story of this newsgroup..............the problem is
always with whomever shows up to post a different point of
view..............the fact remains that most people who become heavily
involved with psychology do so because they have had
problems..............while there is nothing wrong with that, it helps
to know where these individuals are coming from before they suck you
into their mind games...........

wrote:
whenever you get someone saying things like, "i've worked in prisons
and mental health settings"............"the mental health treatment
facility were i worked many years ago"............"i had to figure out
ways to quite myself and gentle my expressions and body language to do
mental health work. someone with my background tends to be too macho
appearing"...........you are dealing with someone who has been paid to
find out what is wrong with whoever comes through the
door............they don't listen...........they label.............the
problem is always on the other side of the table.............that
really is the story of this newsgroup..............the problem is
always with whomever shows up to post a different point of
view..............the fact remains that most people who become heavily
involved with psychology do so because they have had
problems..............while there is nothing wrong with that, it helps
to know where these individuals are coming from before they suck you
into their mind games...........

Feeling better yet, lil 'o'?

0:-




--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

Now there is an educated opinion. not.

I am a mental health worker by profession, and I'm no more ****ed up
than the average citizen. I have no wish to "save" children,
straighten out other people's problems, or analyze anyone. I allow
them to deal with their own issues and give them the tools to do a
better job of dealing with those problems. They choose to deal with
them or not, and them they can deal with the consequences of their
decision. Either way its not my problem, I am doing my job by giving
them the tools necessary to deal with things, what they do or dont do
with those tools is up to them.

Its called Personal Responsibility, not something one finds very often
anymore.

Ron

Ron wrote:
Now there is an educated opinion. not.

I am a mental health worker by profession, and I'm no more ****ed up
than the average citizen. I have no wish to "save" children,
straighten out other people's problems, or analyze anyone. I allow
them to deal with their own issues and give them the tools to do a
better job of dealing with those problems. They choose to deal with
them or not, and them they can deal with the consequences of their
decision. Either way its not my problem, I am doing my job by giving
them the tools necessary to deal with things, what they do or dont do
with those tools is up to them.

Its called Personal Responsibility, not something one finds very often
anymore.

Ron


Most haven't the least idea what "mental health" work consists of. The
entire field is colored by old b-movies.

The corner was turned many decades ago on the "analysis couch" approach
to exactly what you point out. As early as 1980 I was giving the same
information to clients..."whatever has happened to you is not an excuse
to stay in helplessness, and the way out is to work, and to take
personal responsibility for your work on the problems."

And this was with adolescents from 11 to 17.

What we are addressing in the newsgroup is often those that do not get
the message of personal responsibility and never have, apparently.

They will say or do anything without understanding their personal
responsibility for their views, blaming everyone else for 'the problem.'

Never acting, as you and I and others have, but happy to whine, sidewalk
superintendents with the vote...which I doubt they have even bothered to
exercise.

Kane

--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

Ronald Van Dyne, Nebraska Foster contractor is a Mental Health worker?

The same computer game player with the military and Police background?

Kane also claimed to have worked in mental health but
he posted profanity for over a YEAR in
alt.support.child-protective-services

Should a person with that sort of impulse control
be advising others about their mental ecology?

Got a Nebraska state license, Ron?

I never claimed you said "parents must spank their children." Please
get a dictionary and read the definition of "must."

You support the practice of spanking children if parents so choose to do
so. Very, very different statements, Maggie.

LaVonne

wrote:

ooooooooooooh, now this is precious..............what do you suppose my
"personal problems" might be...............your proof is
___________.................is english a first language with
you..............anyone who would write, "often individuals with
emotional problems don't have a 'trusted friend' due to the issues many
emotional problems create," is better in talking in circles than in
lucidity.............oh, and this is the topic of this
newsgroup...........a small group of imbecilic nitwits has adopted an
air of superiority the befits a little clique in a small town high
school..............you don't like those who think differently than
you...........they pose a threat.............in your mind, they must be
done away with even if they are the majority because you have to be
right..........you always have to be right............so, forgive my
asking such a self-important person as yourself, but just where is it
that i have said parents must spank their children.............

You've had a lot of mental health problems, and run-ins with
psychologists, I suspect. People who have issues such as these and have
received no help are the ones to express the opinions you have expressed
below.

Funny thing is, no one posting on this ng is a licensed psychologist (at
least to my knowledge). So why the continual need to bring up
psychologists, unless it is stemming from your own personal issues.

LaVonne



wrote:

whenever you get someone saying things like, "i've worked in prisons
and mental health settings"............"the mental health treatment
facility were i worked many years ago"............"i had to figure out
ways to quite myself and gentle my expressions and body language to do
mental health work. someone with my background tends to be too macho
appearing"...........you are dealing with someone who has been paid to
find out what is wrong with whoever comes through the
door............they don't listen...........they label.............the
problem is always on the other side of the table.............that
really is the story of this newsgroup..............the problem is
always with whomever shows up to post a different point of
view..............the fact remains that most people who become heavily
involved with psychology do so because they have had
problems..............while there is nothing wrong with that, it helps
to know where these individuals are coming from before they suck you
into their mind games...........