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Why my baby? Attorneys trolling bad births - GOOD...UBPN silence - BAD...



 
 
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Old March 15th 04, 12:13 AM
Todd Gastaldo
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Default Why my baby? Attorneys trolling bad births - GOOD...UBPN silence - BAD...

WHY MY BABY? See the very end of this post...


BAD BIRTHS... UBPN silence may be contributing... See below.


IT'S **GOOD** THAT BIRTH INJURY ATTORNEYS ARE TROLLING BAD BIRTHS...

BUT...WHY don't birth injury attorneys say to mothers of paralyzed children:

"If - like most women - you gave birth on your back or semisitting, your OB
closed your birth
canal up to 30%. OBs senselessly closing birth canals is obvious
demonstrable negligence - quite relevant to causation of brachial plexus
injury/BPI."

After all, the United Brachial Plexus Network (UBPN) says:

"Brachial plexus injuries most often occur during the birthing process...as
a result of excessive traction or force being applied to the infant's head
during delivery."
http://www.ubpn.org/ubpnweb.nsf/web/information.html

WHY are we letting obstetricians close birth canals?!



PREGNANT WOMEN: To allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%,
just roll onto your side as you push your baby out - but BEWARE - some OBs
and CNMwives will let you "try" "alternative" delivery positions like
side-lying - but they will move you back to dorsal or semisitting (close
your birth canal!) as you push your baby out. Talk to your OB or CNMwife
about this today!

See ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2300

Allison,

Thanks for writing again.

Your email enquiry was quite helpful in assisting me in addressing key
points...

My responses are interspersed ####

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison Steigerwalt"
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 6:13 PM
Subject: Mass child abuse by OBs: Dr. Nath, you there?


Todd,
My question is this, What accomplishments have you had in your quest
regarding OB's closing birth canals.


#### The authors of Williams Obstetrics published "my" biomechanics - that
was an accomplishment - but they left in their text (in the same
paragraph!) the "dorsal widens" bald lie that first called my attention to
their text!

#### I recently informed Attorney Anthony Mancini of this bizarre obstetric
behavior...

See Attorney looking for 'credible' OB/GYNs...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2360

Have you gotten any media coverage?


#### MAJOR MEDIA? Print media only - and only sporadic.

#### MIDWIFERY MEDIA

#### In addition to getting published (albeit without attribution) in
Williams Obstetrics (see above)...

#### In 1996, I brought the simple but grisly biomechanics to the attention
of
British-trained midwife Prof. Mary Anne Levine, CNM...

#### CNMwifery Prof. Levine subsequently wrote in the November 1996 issue of
RCM Midwives
Journal:

"Dr. Todd Gastaldo, a chiropractor in Oregon, USA...states that the
'semi-recumbent posture, and indeed any posture which places the labouring
client on her sacrum, denies mother and fetus the benefit of sacro-iliac
motion.' I welcome and solicit your comments on this statement, as well as
any referrals to relevant research findings." [Levine MA. Midwives' network.
Midwives (Nov)1996;109(109):295. Royal College of Midwives, 15 Mansfield
St., London W1M 0BE England. Prof. Mary Ann Levine, Department of Nursing,
Humboldt State University, Arcata, CA 95521; Phone: 707-826-5137 ; E-mail:
; Fax: 707-826-5137. ]

#### Three years later, CNMwifery Prof. Levine told me she had received NO
comments!

#### This did not surprise me as CNMwifery Prof Helen Varney *ignored* my
pleas and PROMOTED semisitting (closing the birth canal)!!

#### CNMwifery Prof. Varney is STILL (2004) promoting semisitting (closing
the birth canal) - and speaking for ALL midwives (not just CNMwives) in
doing so!

See Odent on forceps (also: midwives 'prisoners of protocol')?
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2341

#### BRACHIAL PLEXUS MEDIA

#### Former UBPN Outreach Editor Bridget McGinn was going to print an
article by me a few years back - but it never happened.

#### Subsequently, I emailed Bridget about bizarre silence of UBPN Outreach
benefactor and star attorney Les Weisbrod...

See Baby Attorney Les Weisbrod! (also: GASTALDO'S ABSTRACT edited/proofed)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/1526

#### Never got a response from her - or from Les.

Have you written to the AMA, or any political figures?


##### Yes and yes. For example, regarding AMA, search
http://groups.google.com for Gastaldo, JAMA, RAMA

##### Regarding political figures - I wrote to a powerful CALIFORNIA
(behind-the-scenes) political figure...

See Tain, BPI and the Schroeder/Rule 302 matter
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2365

What kind of
responses are getting about this issue?


##### Silence mostly - and some INDIGNATION - like for example
listowner Brenda Copeland-Moore's indignation (see below) at
my assertion that it's 1) CHILD ABUSE for OBs to knowingly close birth
canals
and that it's 2) FAILURE TO REPORT child abuse for BPI surgeons like Rahul
K. Nath, MD to fail to report it.

#### NOTE: Rahul K. Nath, MD does pediatric surgery so maybe that makes him
a pediatrician...

#### One pediatrician wrote in 1986:

"What a terrible indictment...guilty of failing those for whom we have
chosen to be advocates." [Finkel KC: The failure to report child abuse.
AJDC, 1986;140:329-330]

#### Rahul doesn't even say on his BPI web page that OBs are knowingly
closing birth canals - even as he blames "large size" BABIES for their own
birth injuries!
http://www.drnathbrachialplexus.com/injury/children.asp

##### Does indignant Brenda - who posted ad hominem instead of replying -
*really* think Rahul has reported the obvious obstetric crime as child
abuse!? (Or maybe she doesn't think obstetricians knowingly closing birth
canals should be reported as child abuse?)

A DROWNING METAPHOR...

At some point, parents loyal to fine surgeons have GOT to realize that
surgeons saving babies from drowning are PERFECTLY positioned to stop
obstetricians from pushing babies over the cliff upstream!

##### Brenda followed up her indignation with ad hominem attack which was
duplicated over
on UBPN...

See again: Tain, BPI and the Schroeder/Rule 302 matter
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2365

UBPN moderators/censors are STILL scrutinizing my "Tain, BPI/Schroeder/Rule
302" reply...

On the same thread a a UBPN moderator/censor is flip-flopping on checking
TRUTH...

First UBPN Pres. Nancy Birk says she "cannot check" - CANNOT KNOW whether or
not something said in a UBPN post is true (and therefore NOT defamation)...

But THEN she says (in effect) that she CAN know the truth - that something
*is* defamation - if she and her fellow moderators/censors think it is (!) -
as in,

"UBPN cannot check to determine if any statements made are true or untrue.
We define slander, therefore, broadly, to encompass any defamation of
character. Defamation as a legal term means statements that harm a person's
standing in the community, and that may expose him/her to public contempt,
hatred, ridicule or condemnation...Also our message board policy addresses
the issue of the 'tone' o[f] messages, the way someone writes something. It
should be done in a respecful manner and states that 'courteous and
respectful posts are expected from all participants'."
http://www.ubpn.org/messageboard/thr...17&thread=8700
http://lists.topica.com/lists/erbs/r...?mid=808783724

As noted above, I told UBPN YEARS ago that obstetricians are knowingly
closing birth canals...

Will someone please find a "respectful" way to say to UBPN (in an acceptable
"tone") that obstetricians are closing birth canals and *UBPN* is STILL
silent about this obvious obstetric crime!

Will someone ask UBPN to put this right up front on the UBPN web page where
OBs and parents (and attorneys) can see it?

I'll copy the UBPN moderator/censor at

Is anyone helping you?


##### Various people inquire - you for example - and that helps.

##### Also, some women report that they allowed their birth canals to open
maximally because of me. That too helps.

#### (One lady humorously said she "channeled" me during her delivery!)

Do you have
written documentation that would be valid in a [trial] for a bpi case?


##### Sorry to get E-motional here but - ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH - the written
documentation has been in the medical literature since
early last century!

##### OBs are KNOWINGLY closing birth canals!

##### I suggested in my Open Letter to Attorney Mancini that OBs HAVE to
close birth canals because stopping would be
tantamount to admitting a massive birth crime that sometimes kills or
paralyzes
babies.

See again: Attorney looking for 'credible' OB/GYNs...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2360

##### I was SO pleased when Attorney Mancini responded - but now he's gone
silent on the issue.

#### I'm wondering whether Anthony checked his own stable of "credible"
OB/GYNs (as I suggested he should) to see whether he had an OB/GYN brave
enough to speak out and tell a jury that OB/GYNs are knowingly closing birth
canals and KEEPING birth canals closed when shoulders get stuck. Anthony -
you reading?

##### Attorney Mancini hasn't remarked regarding my post suggesting that
MOTHERS could learn in 5 minutes how to show a jury how OBs are closing
birth canals.

See the end of: Tain, BPI and the Schroeder/Rule 302 matter
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2365

ATTORNEYS TROLLING BAD BIRTHS - GOOD!!!

##### I see Attorney Mancini and another BPI attorney (Ken Levine) are
trolling for business on ...
http://lists.topica.com/lists/erbs/r...?mid=808785409

NEGLIGENT DELIVERY TECHNIQUES?

##### Attorney Mancini just wrote to :

"Your child's Brachial Plexus Injury may likely be the result of negligent
delivery techniques employed by your doctor during your child's delivery..."

http://lists.topica.com/lists/erbs/r...?mid=808783724

##### OBs are ADMITTING (on video!) that they are closing birth canals up
to 30% - and that's the best Attorney Mancini can do?!!

#### Anthony, why not say:

"If - like most women - you gave birth on your back or semisitting, your OB
closed your birth
canal up to 30%. OBs senselessly closing birth canals is obvious
demonstrable negligence - quite relevant to causation of brachial plexus
injury/BPI."

#### Such a letter/email sent out by an ATTORNEY would be sure to get the
attention of OBs and possibly stop some OBs from closing birth canals.

##### REMEMBER: The United Brachial Plexus Network (UBPN) says:

"Brachial plexus injuries most often occur during the birthing process...as
a result of excessive traction or force being applied to the infant's head
during delivery."
http://www.ubpn.org/ubpnweb.nsf/web/information.html

##### Why is there NOTHING on the UBPN website about obstetricians knowingly
closing birth canals up to 30%?

##### Why is there nothing about obstetricians KEEPING the birth canal
closed when shoulders get stuck?

##### I SAY AGAIN: I told UBPN about obstetricians knowingly closing birth
canals YEARS ago.

##### UBPN's "Shared Vision" is to,

"[W]ork towards the PREVENTION of brachial plexus injuries."
http://www.ubpn.org/ubpnweb.nsf/web/ubpninfo.html

##### Babies are getting PARALYZED. Some are DYING. (Australian
obstetrician Norman Beischer, MD has guessed that 10 to 15% of stillbirths
were just fine right before delivery.)

##### If women don't hear my PREVENTION message BEFORE birth....

##### At the very least they should hear it/see it on the UBPN website when
they wind up with a paralyzed baby!

##### UBPN - with its stated Shared Vision of PREVENTION - should state
right up front on the UBPN website that OBs are knowingly closing birth
canals and KEEPING birth canals closed when shoulders get stuck...

See again: ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2300

##### BTW, *Brenda Copeland-Moore* - when she gets over her indignation -
could say the same thing right up front at:
http://lists.topica.com/lists/erbs

##### These are EASY things to do. Again, OBs are indirectly ADMITTING on
video that they are closing birth canals!

##### Here is the same admission in The Merck Manual:

"When shoulder dystocia occurs...the mother's thighs are hyperflexed to
increase the
diameter of the pelvic outlet..."
http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanu...er253/253g.jsp

Note: Merely hyperflexing the mother's thighs is BAD McRoberts and does NOT
increase the diameter of the pelvic outlet!

See again: ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2300

#### Here are the simple grisly biomechanics of semisitting (and dorsal)
delivery clearly stated more recently by Jason Gardosi, MD, director of the
British National Health
Service/NHS West Midlands Perinatal Institute/WMPI...

"...the weight of the mother is in part taken on the sacrum which is
therefore pushed upwards, thus decreasing the antero-posterior diameter of
the pelvic outlet..."
http://www.wmpi.net/reviews/oe/oe_shoulder_dystocia.htm

#### Jason Gardosi, MD also notes - same site - an alternative method of
GOOD McRoberts. Cool!

#### The strange thing is - Jason Gardosi, MD et al. also recommend
semisitting delivery (closing birth canal)!!!

#### Visitors to the just cited WMPI website read in WMPI's Pregnancy
Notes

"The second stage...You might want to remain in bed with your back propped
up with pillows...As you push, try to
let yourself 'open up' below..."
http://www.preg.info/book/chapter11.htm

##### Thanks for writing again, Allison...

#### Sincerely,

##### Todd

##### Dr. Gastaldo )

#### Copied to UBPN Pres. Nancy Birk and her fellow board members: Cathy
Kanter, Peggy Ferguson, Kim West, Sabrina Randolph, Jennifer Engelhardt,
Krista Heikkinen, Richard Looby, Kathleen M. Mallozzi, Karen McClune and
Tami Schenck

Thanks,
Allison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Gastaldo"
To:
Cc: ; ;
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:56 PM
Subject: Mass child abuse by OBs: Dr. Nath, you there?


DR. NATH, YOU THERE?

YOU MENTION "LARGE SIZE" BABIES AS BEING A RISK FOR DIFFICULT DELIVERY

AND
BPI...

YET THERE IS NOTHING ON YOUR WEB SITE ABOUT OBs KNOWINGLY CLOSING BIRTH
CANALS UP TO 30%!

THEY DON'T CALL IT cephaloPELVIC disproportion for nothing!

I wrote:

Silent Dr. Nath: BPI malpractice suits as prevention
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2357

Interspersions #####

#### Brenda Copeland-Moore ("Erbs List") replied:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erbs List"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:19 PM
Subject: Mr. Gastaldo


Dear Mr. Gastaldo,

##### Titular etiquette accident. Please see the postscript.

##### Brenda continued...

While I think your passion for preventing injuries to children is
commendable,

##### Ah, you are euphemizing Brenda... With MDs KNOWINGLY closing

birth
canals up to 30% these injuries to children constitute occasionally
paralyzing occasionally fatal CHILD ABUSE.

I think the way you go about asking for help is
fundamentally lacking.

##### What is "fundamentally lacking" is law enforcement/MD failure to
investigate/stop OBVIOUS mass child abuse. (I am again cc'ing my old
roommate at UCLA, now assistant DA Bill Hodgman; see below.)

I don't think you should attack or slander
people you are trying to get to assist in this endeavor.

##### I think if a slander is written it is called libel. Truth cannot

be
libel. Show me where I have libeled and I will retract immediately.

I don't think
you could possibly know what Dr. Nath, or any of the other people that
you wrote about in your last e-mail are doing regarding the prevention
of this injury.

##### MDs tell their lies quite publicly - i.e. - by their own admission
(indirectly) - they admit they are CAUSING the PELVIC part of the
cephalopelvic disproportion thought to contribute to brachial plexus

injury!

##### Rahul K. Nath, MD remains SILENT...

##### Rahul (Dr. Nath) writes about LARGE SIZE babies being a risk

factor:

"The majority of children with obstetric brachial plexus injuries have

risk
factors for a difficult delivery such as large size, use of forceps or
vacuum, and shoulder dystocia."
http://www.drnathbrachialplexus.com/injury/children.asp

##### But Rahul (Dr. Nath) says NOTHING about MDs making the pelvis

smaller!

##### NOTHING about MDs *keeping* the birth canal closed with the

shoulders
get stuck!

##### Why do you suppose he is SILENT on these very BPI-relevant

points,
Brenda?

I think calling anyone a child abuser would certainly
fall under these lines.

##### It is OBVIOUS child abuse for MDs to KNOWINGLY close birth canals

up
to 30%.

##### It is FAILURE TO REPORT child abuse for Rahul Nath MD to mention
LARGE BABIES and *fail* to mention to law enforcement that MDs are

knowingly
closing birth canals! (Or maybe Rahul has reported it as child abuse and
does not think parents need to know this fact?)

##### As I noted in my post...

LEGALLY, CLOSING THE BIRTH CANAL SHOULD BE REPORTED AS CHILD ABUSE

Since failure to report child abuse perpetuates child abuse....failure

to
report child abuse is also a crime.

Dr. Nath's silence constitutes child abuse.

Dr. Nath does pediatric surgery so maybe that makes him a

pediatrician...

One pediatrician wrote in 1986:

"What a terrible indictment...guilty of failing those for whom we have
chosen to be advocates." [Finkel KC: The failure to report child abuse.
AJDC, 1986;140:329-330]

Yes - a terrible indictment - no prosecution yet - so the mass
birth-canal-closing child abuse continues.

I'll again cc my old roommate from UCLA, assistant DA Bill Hodgman and

his
boss LA County DA Steve Cooley via

#### Brenda, I'll cc this post too to my old roommate from UCLA

assistant
DA Bill Hodgman via


##### Brenda continued...

I think you are undermining your efforts in
this end.

##### *Rahul* is undermining my efforts - by remaining silent! And YOU

are
undermining my efforts by suggesting that he isn't being silent!

##### As I noted in the post to which you object:

TO MOTHERS OF BRACHIAL PLEXUS INJURED BABIES...

Dr. Nath is a FINE BPI surgeon - probably the finest in America (see
below)...

...but Dr. Nath should be informing you of the following - especially if

you
are suing your OB...

If you gave birth on your back or on your butt (dorsal or
semisitting) the OB closed your birth canal up to 30%.

If your baby experienced shoulder dystocia, it is possible - even

probable -
that your OB KEPT your
birth canal closed up to 30% **with more force**. See "the kicker"

below...

FACT: Obstetricians are KNOWINGLY closing birth canals up to 30%.

The simple CLOSING ("decreasing diameter") biomechanics are openly

stated
by
British National Health
Service/NHS West Midlands Perinatal
Institute/WMPI/Jason Gardosi, MD, Director who writes of the

semirecumbent
delivery position (semisitting):

"...the weight of the mother is in part taken on the sacrum which is
therefore pushed upwards, thus decreasing the antero-posterior diameter

of
the pelvic outlet..."
http://www.wmpi.net/reviews/oe/oe_shoulder_dystocia.htm


In ACOG's Shoulder Dystocia Drill video, American MDs purport to tell

each
other how to allow birth canals to open maximally when shoulders get

stuck -
which means MDs know they are CLOSING birth canals most of the time.

THE KICKER...

ACOG's method of allowing the birth canal to open actually
keeps it closed!

See ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2300

#### END excerpt of Silent Dr. Nath: BPI malpractice suits as prevention
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2357

#### Rahul needs to TELL parents of paralyzed children that OBs are
knowingly closing birth canals - esp. if those parents are suing their

OBs!

#### For SOME odd reason Rahul is remaining SILENT - there is NOTHING

about
OBs knowingly closing birth canals on his site. (Again, maybe Rahul has
reported it as child abuse and does not think parents need to know this
fact?)

#### Brenda concluded...

[You are] creating a fear for those who would possibly
post to this listing, that they too would be attacked. Cordially,
Brenda Copeland-Moore

##### Brenda, *MDs* are attacking ME online - pretending that I'm not
telling the truth.

##### MDs are PHYSICALLY attacking BABIES - sometimes KILLING them.

##### REMEMBER: Even *necessary* medical care is a battery if informed
consent is not obtained. Parents are NOT being informed that MDs are
closing birth canals - not even after they wind up with a paralyzed

baby!

#### Rahul remains SILENT. WHY does he mention LARGE SIZE baby as being

a
risk factor without mentioning that MDs are knowingly closing birth

canals?

#### Have you asked him? That's what I'm doing here. Rahul remains
SILENT - babies be damned.

#### This is NOT to say Rahul isn't a fine surgeon who has greatly
benefitted many children. I am sure he has.

#### Rahul is remaining silent about obvious mass child abuse even as

he
profits from it.

#### It's patently illegal to remain silent about obvious mass child

abuse.
(Again, maybe Rahul has reported it as child abuse and does not think
parents need to know this fact?)

#### Thanks for reading.

#### Sincerely,

#### Todd

#### Dr. Gastaldo )

#### PS1 As I noted in my post:

Rahul K. Nath, MD was PEER-NOMINATED as America's Top Doctor in

Pediatric
Brachial Plexus Management^^^

^^^Crown Connelly Publishers survey
http://www.drnathbrachialplexus.com/surgeon/index.asp

Dr. Nath says on his website:

"25,000 lives per year are affected by Brachial Plexus [Injury]...Most

come
to us for help."
http://www.drnathbrachialplexus.com

Dr. Nath could inform MANY obstetricians and patients!

But Dr. Nath is silent.

WHY?

##### Brenda, I'll copy *this* email to Dr. Nath




#### PS2 TITULAR ETIQUETTE ACCIDENT

#### You referred to Rahul as "Dr." Nath and me as "Mr." Gastaldo.

#### If titular etiquette is to be observed - please know that I prefer

the
title I earned - Dr. Gastaldo.

#### I earned my doctorate in chiropractic by taking the anatomy and
physiology necessary to discover that MDs are *ignoring* anatomy and
physiology - babies be damned.

#### MDs are so brazen about ignoring anatomy and physiology that

America's
most frequent surgical behavior toward males INSTANTLY went from "no

medical
indication" to "effective public health measure" when in 1987 I pointed

out
that MDs were still using phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology!

See Sen. Frist, infant penis care, dead babies - and AHRQ 'in-hospital
safety events'
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2019

#### One last note Brenda: If titular etiquette is NOT to be

observed -
please know that I like the name my mom and dad gave me - Todd. : )

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WHY MY BABY?

I'll cc this to cathy pauley (cathyp777) the lady who posted the
Schroeder/Rule 302 article and said "very very interesting"...


Dear Cathy: The "very very interesting" article you posted (see below) was
about me allegedly slandering/libeling a LAWYER - yet your subject line was
"...Don't Slander Doctors." (!)

LOL!

Your email address asks: whymybaby (?)

You recently wrote: "mcroberts manuver. From what I read that is just
pushing the legs up to the chest...This is what was done to me and it is
listed on my hospital records as mcroberts."
http://www.ubpn.org/messageboard/thr...17&thread=8693

You may have been subjected both dorsal delivery and BAD McRoberts
maneuver - the former closes the birth canal and the latter KEEPS the birth
canal closed when the baby's shoulders get stuck.

See again: ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2300

NOTE #1: GOOD McRoberts allows the birth canal to OPEN maximally.

There are two forms of GOOD McRoberts - one of which was mentioned at the
website posted on thread where you mentioned McRoberts. See
http://www.wmpi.net/reviews/oe/oe_shoulder_dystocia.htm

NOTE #2: At the very top of this same site: TRUTH:

"[In] the prevailing delivery practice, with the mother in a semi-recumbent
position on the delivery bed...the weight of the mother is in part taken on
the sacrum which is therefore pushed upwards, thus decreasing the
antero-posterior diameter of the pelvic outlet. Many of these cases require
only a positional change, into left lateral, or kneeling, which frees the
sacrum and allows lateral flexion."
http://www.wmpi.net/reviews/oe/oe_shoulder_dystocia.htm

Karleen Gribble wrote: "But neither of these pages list the involvement of
interventions in labour or birth positions in shoulder dystocia both of
which women have a lot of control over!!"
http://www.ubpn.org/messageboard/thr...17&thread=8693

The wmpi page just cited seems to mention birth positions in shoulder
dystocia...

Thanks for reading everyone.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


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