Anything in FH make u afraid? Cw mandated to ask

On 11 Jul 2004 16:45:13 GMT, (Fern5827) wrote:

http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.co...l/807286.shtml

These and similar type questions are mandated by the Feds to be asked
of the
children in foster care at least every 90 days.

"Does anything in this home make you feel afraid"?

Yep, that's almost right.

Is anything BAD happening
to you, is the way I would phrase it.

Then YOU would be doing what you accuse CPS abuse investigators
of....leading the child. Children see many things they think are "bad"
like nasty old dead Plants rotting in the garden, or a Douggie
throwing up on the rug.

Asking if they are "afraid" is far more likely to produce a valid
answer, at least for an opener. If the answer is "yes" then it is easy
to ask the open question, "what is it that makes you feel afraid?"

If you use "bad" it is an open invitation to embellishment the child
may think you want. Just describing what makes them afraid has less
chance of doing that.


Does it take place?

Of course. And what if the child says "NO" as the perp has trained him
or her to say? Is CPS then to descern the lie by psychic intervention?

One of the biggest lies in the world is that one can tell when another
is lying, and especially a child.

Abused children are usually already, long before going into foster
care, accomplished liars....its' called, "survival" from mommy
druggest and daddy drunkest. As a foster parent.

Yer so desparate for your phony reform and pumping up your flaccid ego
that you'll say and claim anything without conscience or
thought...especially stupid about the issue of being caught, as you
ARE so often here.

Grow up, you old Birch, and get a conscience before it's too late.

You hold back true reform better than anyone on this ng. Eventually
people sicken of the continual stream of filth that poors from your
keyboard.

Which parent are you going to admire and support and defend for
killing their child or beating it, today?

Kane


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"Fern5827" wrote in message
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http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.co...l/807286.shtml

These and similar type questions are mandated by the Feds to be asked of
the
children in foster care at least every 90 days.

"Does anything in this home make you feel afraid"? Is anything BAD
happening
to you, is the way I would phrase it.

Wrong again. Where do you get this tripe? Nevermind. Senescence is like
that...

Sherman.

Vocabulary age appropriate to the child.

Conversely, you could ask about the good things happening.

"Fern5827" wrote in message
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Vocabulary age appropriate to the child.

Conversely, you could ask about the good things happening.

Even a child could figure out the phrase. You are wrong. This is NOT a
mandated question. Your statement is tripe - humus. Simple enough?

Conversely, you could DO something to make a difference, if you could
qualify.

Visitation with children by a caseworker consists of conversations about
what is GOOD happening in their lives. This might include appropriate age
appropriate questions regarding their safety and security. Not a single
properly trained social worker would ask leading questions such as what you
assert as a "good thing". Mostly, they observe the child in their
environment and the interaction between their caregivers, home and other
indicators. A really good caseworker uses this visitation time to inquire
of the caregivers what help they may need or what else the child may need.

Your verbiage regarding your own mental approach indicates a mindset of
hatred towards foster parents. Hatred is NOT a good thing. Neither is
bias.

A good thing would be to DO something for a child. Have you applied to
become a foster parent yet?

It's about the children.

Sherman.

Fern,
Kane and Sherman are absolutely right here. You can not ask a
leading question. Our caseworkers visit on a monthly basis. The
children are usually asked if there is anything they would like to talk
about. Also it has been phrased as "Tell me what you like about living
here, and what you don't like." In any investigation, even ones where
they are removing children from bio parents, , a leading question is
often not admissible in court. There is a reason why trained
professionals handle this. As a foster parent it is my job to make sure
I am listening to the child and not putting any cohersed thoughts in
their head about things they share with me. Gee, you would think you
would know this Fern, being an "expert" and all.

Guess NONE of you are familiar with the constant

GOOD TOUCH, BAD TOUCH

Scenarios which are endlessly paraded in front of Preschools and Elementary
schools throughout the US.

And the reason?

Fed funding for such programs.

So, kids are eminently FAMILIAR WITH bad TOUCHES.

The foster in Maine apparently had many BAD TOUCHES. DHS did NOT catch it for
years.

The families will SUE pants off of DHS and the errant man.

As well they should. 5 Year olds in this home.

When these plays and presentations are taken to young children, the children
ARE ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED TO report any Instances of BAD TOUCHING.

So you see young children *ages 2-3 onward are familiar with BAD TOUCHES.
HAVING HEARD THE PRESENTATION ENDLESSLY IN THEIR SCHOOLS.

Reason: One of few areas where GVT funds are expended---to root out those
exploiters of children.

Sorry your lame words show you are not familiar with the totality of childhood
experiences.

Tell me, Carmon, what are cohersed thoughts?

Is that your malapropism for coercive hearsay?


Carmon LISTENS IN:



From: (carmon c)
Date: 7/13/2004 2:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Fern,
Kane and Sherman are absolutely right here. You can not ask a
leading question. Our caseworkers visit on a monthly basis. The
children are usually asked if there is anything they would like to talk
about. Also it has been phrased as "Tell me what you like about living
here, and what you don't like." In any investigation, even ones where
they are removing children from bio parents, , a leading question is
often not admissible in court. There is a reason why trained
professionals handle this. As a foster parent it is my job to make sure
I am listening to the child and not putting any cohersed thoughts in
their head about things they share with me. Gee, you would think you
would know this Fern, being an "expert" and all.

Read the article captioned from the Maine, Newspaper, She man.

Not a single
properly trained social worker would ask leading questions such as what you
assert as a "good thing". Mostly, they

But you see they are NOT social workers.

Understand?

In some states, the workers do not even hold college degrees.

A really good caseworker uses this visitation time to inquire
of the caregivers what help they may need or what else the child may need.

Self-serving foster parent question, from a FOSTER PARENT.

indicates a mindset of
hatred towards foster parents. Hatred

Only in your mind. I am fair & balanced?

Your replies mostly consist of mindless ad homs. In fact, I have developed a
matrix which validates this, She man.

Have you applied to
become a foster parent yet?

Why would I? I do loads else. Guess you NEED THE MONEY.

That's what the perception of fosters is.

It's about the CONSTITUTION AND legality.

The essence of foster care is income transfers.

"Fern5827" wrote in message
...
Read the article captioned from the Maine, Newspaper, She man.

Not a single
properly trained social worker would ask leading questions such as what
you
assert as a "good thing". Mostly, they

But you see they are NOT social workers.

Understand?

In some states, the workers do not even hold college degrees.

A really good caseworker uses this visitation time to inquire
of the caregivers what help they may need or what else the child may
need.

Self-serving foster parent question, from a FOSTER PARENT.

indicates a mindset of
hatred towards foster parents. Hatred

Only in your mind. I am fair & balanced?

Your replies mostly consist of mindless ad homs. In fact, I have
developed a
matrix which validates this, She man.

Have you applied to
become a foster parent yet?

Why would I? I do loads else. Guess you NEED THE MONEY.

That's what the perception of fosters is.

It's about the CONSTITUTION AND legality.

The essence of foster care is income transfers.

Some caseworkers hold qualified social worker status, some do not. Most in
the States who pay equitably, do. Your statement is false. Wrong again.

What else do you do? Recycle your grey water? What else???

You don't know squat.

Sherman.

Unable to cut and paste, but to Ferns bs response of "I guess you NEED
THE MONEY". Damn straight I need the money IF I am to continue to due
foster care. I make more as an RN in one day then I do a week of foster
parenting. HOWEVER... I have put my career to the side in order to be a
foster parent and my husband works his 40 hours a week and spends the
rest of his time with our family. I gladly cash the check each month.
This check helps to pay for the four children I currently have in care.
It helps pay for their clothing, food, t-ball , swimming lessons, you
name it. I do not use the money on myself, but on these children. We
can easly make it on our own but the money from the state helps to
provide these children with opportunites they NEVER would have been able
to experience. And when all is said and done, I assure you there is
more money coming out of my pocket then going into it. So you can take
your "I'm better than that" attitude and shove it up your apple. As for
me, I will continue to foster AND to cash that monthly check of a
whopping $14.00 a day, and do with it as I see fit! Good thing I don't
cuss, cause I can think of a five letter word that descibes you
perfectly. Have a nice day