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How do you turn a breech naturally?
Well, little Ana has decided she prefers to stay upright at nearly 33 weeks,
with her feet firmly planted on my cervix - ouch! In fact two midwives who examined me failed to pick up that she was still breech, because of how far her head was under my ribs. My midwife was a little shocked and said it was an unusual place for a baby's head to be at 33 weeks - in fact when I had my u/s, the doppler was not far under my breast while they were looking at her brain! She isn't trying to panic me, but she thought that considering we are inducing at 38 weeks it might me a good idea to start doing something about it, and has given me some kind of homeopathic remedy - three little tablets - to try and help, and said if that doesn't work there is some kind of chinese thing they'll try, I can't remember the name of it. I've also got to spend a lot of time eating carpet with my feet in the air, yay, sounds like lots of fun with my bad back... She said if they're still breech at 36 weeks they often get stuck that way and don't really want to move. Other than the methods above, does anyone have any tips on how to get this little one head down, scientifically proven or otherwise? The homeopathic stuff certainly didn't sound very scientific, I asked her what you could possibly put in a tablet that would make a baby want to stand on its head...but whatever works. |
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How do you turn a breech naturally?
Amy wrote:
Well, little Ana has decided she prefers to stay upright at nearly 33 weeks, with her feet firmly planted on my cervix - ouch! In fact two midwives who examined me failed to pick up that she was still breech, because of how far her head was under my ribs. My midwife was a little shocked and said it was an unusual place for a baby's head to be at 33 weeks - in fact when I had my u/s, the doppler was not far under my breast while they were looking at her brain! She isn't trying to panic me, but she thought that considering we are inducing at 38 weeks it might me a good idea to start doing something about it, and has given me some kind of homeopathic remedy - three little tablets - to try and help, and said if that doesn't work there is some kind of chinese thing they'll try, I can't remember the name of it. I've also got to spend a lot of time eating carpet with my feet in the air, yay, sounds like lots of fun with my bad back... She said if they're still breech at 36 weeks they often get stuck that way and don't really want to move. Other than the methods above, does anyone have any tips on how to get this little one head down, scientifically proven or otherwise? The homeopathic stuff certainly didn't sound very scientific, I asked her what you could possibly put in a tablet that would make a baby want to stand on its head...but whatever works. Check out http://www.gentlebirth.org/prenatal/breech.htm. If these things don't work, check out external version with a very skilled practitioner at around 37 weeks. Good luck, Ericka |
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How do you turn a breech naturally?
"Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message ... Amy wrote: Well, little Ana has decided she prefers to stay upright at nearly 33 weeks, with her feet firmly planted on my cervix - ouch! In fact two midwives who examined me failed to pick up that she was still breech, because of how far her head was under my ribs. My midwife was a little shocked and said it was an unusual place for a baby's head to be at 33 weeks - in fact when I had my u/s, the doppler was not far under my breast while they were looking at her brain! She isn't trying to panic me, but she thought that considering we are inducing at 38 weeks it might me a good idea to start doing something about it, and has given me some kind of homeopathic remedy - three little tablets - to try and help, and said if that doesn't work there is some kind of chinese thing they'll try, I can't remember the name of it. I've also got to spend a lot of time eating carpet with my feet in the air, yay, sounds like lots of fun with my bad back... She said if they're still breech at 36 weeks they often get stuck that way and don't really want to move. Other than the methods above, does anyone have any tips on how to get this little one head down, scientifically proven or otherwise? The homeopathic stuff certainly didn't sound very scientific, I asked her what you could possibly put in a tablet that would make a baby want to stand on its head...but whatever works. Check out http://www.gentlebirth.org/prenatal/breech.htm. If these things don't work, check out external version with a very skilled practitioner at around 37 weeks. Good luck, Ericka Interesting recent quote... "[P]ostural methods...acupuncture...chiropractic manipulations...hypnosis...seems that their results may be favorably compared with that of the external cephalic version, a much more complex procedure, which is potentially dangerous..." --Prof. Georges Boog. J Gynecol Obstet Biol Reprod (Paris). 2004 Apr;33(2):94-8. PubMed abstract |
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How do you turn a breech naturally?
Todd Gastaldo wrote:
Interesting recent quote... "[P]ostural methods...acupuncture...chiropractic manipulations...hypnosis...seems that their results may be favorably compared with that of the external cephalic version, a much more complex procedure, which is potentially dangerous..." --Prof. Georges Boog. J Gynecol Obstet Biol Reprod (Paris). 2004 Apr;33(2):94-8. PubMed abstract Worth trying, and fabulous if they work. If they don't (as happened in my case), external version with a skilled practitioner still beats the pants off of a c-section, or even a vaginal breech birth (in the unlikely event you can find anyone to do that). Best wishes, Ericka |
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How do you turn a breech naturally?
Amy wrote: snip Other than the methods above, does anyone have any tips on how to get this little one head down, scientifically proven or otherwise? The homeopathic stuff certainly didn't sound very scientific, I asked her what you could possibly put in a tablet that would make a baby want to stand on its head...but whatever works. Take a look at http://www.spinningbabies.com/ cheers, Marion EDD 10/16/04 |
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Pictures of external version ('the fetus is manipulated by a forward roll or back flip')
"Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message ... Todd Gastaldo wrote: Interesting recent quote... "[P]ostural methods...acupuncture...chiropractic manipulations...hypnosis...seems that their results may be favorably compared with that of the external cephalic version, a much more complex procedure, which is potentially dangerous..." --Prof. Georges Boog. J Gynecol Obstet Biol Reprod (Paris). 2004 Apr;33(2):94-8. PubMed abstract Worth trying, and fabulous if they work. If they don't (as happened in my case), external version with a skilled practitioner still beats the pants off of a c-section, or even a vaginal breech birth (in the unlikely event you can find anyone to do that). Best wishes, Ericka PICTURES OF EXTERNAL VERSION... http://www.aafp.org/afp/980901ap/coco.html Ericka, I liked your initial advice - and your appended remarks. Regarding c-section avoidance with external version... As any woman undergoing external version must be informed (I hope they are informed at least), in rare instances external version can CAUSE a c-section: "The procedure should only be performed in a facility equipped for emergency cesarean section...External version has an 80 percent success rate when performed in preterm gestations.14 Concomitantly, the spontaneous reversion rate is approximately 16 percent. It is surmised that the relatively small size of the preterm fetus is responsible for these high rates. A small fetus has more room to be turned and can revert on its own. At term (defined as 37 weeks or more of gestation), the success rate falls to 63 percent, but the reversion rate improves to 6 to 7 percent.4 The same rationale (the larger fetus has less freedom of movement) is responsible for these reduced rates. The most important reason to wait until the fetus is at term is to avoid iatrogenic prematurity if complications arise. If an external version attempt results in active labor, ruptured membranes or fetal compromise that requires cesarean section, and the fetus is at term, delivery can proceed without concerns about complications of prematurity. Complications resulting from an external version attempt in a preterm fetus could result in increased fetal morbidity and mortality. " --Andrew S. Coco, MD and Stephanie D. Silverman, MD http://www.aafp.org/afp/980901ap/coco.html Regarding vaginal breech deliveries... The recent recommendations that all singleton term breeches be taken by c-section was based upon studies of breech births with the birth canal senselessly closed up to 30%. OBs are driving up both the cesarean rate and the external version rate by senselessly closing birth canals up to 30%. Most bizarre. Todd Dr. Gastaldo |
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Pictures of external version ('the fetus is manipulated by aforward roll or back flip')
Todd Gastaldo wrote:
As any woman undergoing external version must be informed (I hope they are informed at least), in rare instances external version can CAUSE a c-section: Absolutely, that is a risk factor. A small risk of a c-section beats a certainty any day in my book, though ;-) The recent recommendations that all singleton term breeches be taken by c-section was based upon studies of breech births with the birth canal senselessly closed up to 30%. ...and on studies that were flawed in other ways as well (though some studies show that vaginal breech birth is quite sensible in some situations). Nevertheless, with so few practitioners trained to do vaginal breech births safely, it often becomes a moot point :-( Best wishes, Ericka |
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Pictures of external version ('the fetus is manipulated by a forward roll or back flip')
"Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message
... Todd Gastaldo wrote: As any woman undergoing external version must be informed (I hope they are informed at least), in rare instances external version can CAUSE a c-section: Absolutely, that is a risk factor. A small risk of a c-section beats a certainty any day in my book, though ;-) Yeah, I have a friend whose first baby was breach, and she was going to have an external version done. Then another friend of hers told her that it was really painful, and she could end up needing a c-section anyway, so rather than try at all, she opted straight to the c-section. At the time, I was on this board, and reading so many stories of womans experiences with the external versions, some painful, some leading to a c-section, and so many of them relatively painless. I did tell her about how many woman I'd heard of who didn't consider it a painful experience, but her mind was made up. I thought (and still think) she was nuts to just opt straight for the c-section. Especially for the first baby. Oh well, to each their own. -- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 Check out Taylor Marlys -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1, Password: Guest Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and Password Check out our Adoption Page at http://home.earthlink.net/~jamielee6 |
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Pictures of external version ('the fetus is manipulated by a forward roll or back flip')
Todd Gastaldo wrote in message k.net... Regarding vaginal breech deliveries... The recent recommendations that all singleton term breeches be taken by c-section was based upon studies of breech births with the birth canal senselessly closed up to 30%. OBs are driving up both the cesarean rate and the external version rate by senselessly closing birth canals up to 30%. I thought you'd forgotten something on your first post ;-) Debbie |
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Pictures of external version ('the fetus is manipulated by a forward roll or back flip')
Jamie Clark wrote in message ink.net... "Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message ... Todd Gastaldo wrote: As any woman undergoing external version must be informed (I hope they are informed at least), in rare instances external version can CAUSE a c-section: Absolutely, that is a risk factor. A small risk of a c-section beats a certainty any day in my book, though ;-) Yeah, I have a friend whose first baby was breach, and she was going to have an external version done. Then another friend of hers told her that it was really painful, and she could end up needing a c-section anyway, so rather than try at all, she opted straight to the c-section. At the time, I was on this board, and reading so many stories of womans experiences with the external versions, some painful, some leading to a c-section, and so many of them relatively painless. I did tell her about how many woman I'd heard of who didn't consider it a painful experience, but her mind was made up. I thought (and still think) she was nuts to just opt straight for the c-section. Especially for the first baby. Oh well, to each their own. -- Mum had me turned (twice). She said it tickled! (It worked the second time) Debbie |
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