Best advise for bf after c-section

*In the obstetric world, "elective C section" simply means "planned C
*section", regardless of the indication. I think the word you're looking
*for is "frivolous". (or "not medically indicated", if you prefer.)

that is not true. "elective" means "not medically indicated." "Scheduled"
means "planned, regardless of indication." Both elective and non-elective
sections can in fact sometimes be scheduled. Emergent sections are a type
of non-elective sections which can not be scheduled.

depends where you are, here, UK, there is definitely only 2 types,
elective and emergency, a true elective, i.e. you choose on no medical
reason is not supposed to exist.

Hillary Israeli wrote:

Lara wrote:
In the obstetric world, "elective C section" simply means "planned C
section", regardless of the indication. I think the word you're looking
for is "frivolous". (or "not medically indicated", if you prefer.)

that is not true. "elective" means "not medically indicated." "Scheduled"
means "planned, regardless of indication." Both elective and non-elective
sections can in fact sometimes be scheduled. Emergent sections are a type
of non-elective sections which can not be scheduled.

Not here. All the more reason to avoid using the term - it clearly means
different things in different places, so it's a recipe for
miscommunication in an international community.

Lara

In ,
Anne Rogers wrote:

* *In the obstetric world, "elective C section" simply means "planned C
* *section", regardless of the indication. I think the word you're looking
* *for is "frivolous". (or "not medically indicated", if you prefer.)
*
* that is not true. "elective" means "not medically indicated." "Scheduled"
* means "planned, regardless of indication." Both elective and non-elective
* sections can in fact sometimes be scheduled. Emergent sections are a type
* of non-elective sections which can not be scheduled.
*
*depends where you are, here, UK, there is definitely only 2 types,
*elective and emergency, a true elective, i.e. you choose on no medical
*reason is not supposed to exist.

Whether or not it is supposed to exist, I can't comment on. I do know the
definition of the word "elective," though. It means subject to the choice
or decision of the patient or physician, applied to procedures that are
advantageous to the patient but not urgent. That's from Dorland's Medical
Dictionary, which I have here in my office. Interestingly enough, that is
the same definition found at this UK website:
http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?elective
which leads me to believe that medical professionals in the UK use the
word absolutely the same way we do here in the USA.


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In ,
Anne Rogers wrote:

*that might be what is supposed to happen, but for many women they feel
*pressurised into a c-section, the lady in the bed next to me after I had
*given birth had had a c-section, the next morning the doctor came round
*and said to her something like "so you had an elective c-section" she
*replied something along the lines of "if that's what you call it", she was
*a week overdue had come in for a routine appointment to discuss induction,
*and was told she should have a section within a couple of hours, as the
*baby was big possibly 11lb and the head hadn't engaged (it was her 2nd).
*She seemed shocked and miserable, to then be told it was elective was a
*bit much for her.

I certainly understand that that poor woman may have been misled about the
need for the section, and that the doctor may not have been sensitive to
the issues around it...but hey, it sounds like she did have an elective
section, doesn't it? You didn't describe an emergency situation - just one
in which the doctors heavily pressured her to have a section because they
thought there COULD be a problem LATER if they waited.

--
hillary israeli vmd http://www.hillary.net
"uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est."
not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large

I certainly understand that that poor woman may have been misled about the
need for the section, and that the doctor may not have been sensitive to
the issues around it...but hey, it sounds like she did have an elective
section, doesn't it? You didn't describe an emergency situation - just one
in which the doctors heavily pressured her to have a section because they
thought there COULD be a problem LATER if they waited.

true, I was just trying to illustrate that many women can feel pressurised
into something they would rather avoid.


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Anne Rogers