PETITION AGAINST FORCED VACCINES

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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JOHN wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_aga..._vaccines.html


Dear All


Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
long term chronic illness as a result.

Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available.

Jeff

Mike wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Mike wrote:
Jeff wrote:
JOHN wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_aga..._vaccines.html


Dear All


Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to
sign:-

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor
develop long term chronic illness as a result.

Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness,
either. However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that
is available.

Jeff

The petition is to reject a proposal by a certain member of British
parliament to FORCE vaccinations in the UK. A quote:

"A Labour MP has recently suggested forcing all children to be
vaccinated otherwise they cannot attend school and parents should not
receive child benefits."

I was not talking about the petition or the law. Rather, I was talking
about the life-saving value of vaccines.


Some vaccines are not life-saving. Chickenpox, for example.

Chicken pox killed something like 30 to 50 people a year before the vaccine.

Jeff

In message gvI1k.11102$%Z1.1980@trnddc05, Mike wrote:

Some vaccines are not life-saving. Chickenpox, for example.

1999-2005 mortality for varicella and herpes zoster (same thing)
was 1204 for the United States.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Chicken pox killed something like 30 to 50 people a year before the
vaccine.

Jeff

lying with the truth.

What killed them really was mostly steroids that took out there immune
system

Chickepox was recognised harmless in 1890 http://whale.to/v/chicken1.html

JOHN wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
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Chicken pox killed something like 30 to 50 people a year before the
vaccine.

Jeff

lying with the truth.

What killed them really was mostly steroids that took out there immune
system

What killed them was when they either got secondary infections or the
virus spread directly to the brain.

Chickepox was recognised harmless in 1890 http://whale.to/v/chicken1.html

This is site is not recommended by thinking people. The author clearly
shows no evidence of understanding science, medicine or infectious disease.

Jeff

In article ,
JOHN wrote:

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:1%I1k.2449$v%.1998@trndny04...


Chicken pox killed something like 30 to 50 people a year before the
vaccine.

Jeff

lying with the truth.

What killed them really was mostly steroids that took out there immune
system

Chickepox was recognised harmless in 1890 http://whale.to/v/chicken1.html

Typical Scudamore -- the older the source, the more he venerates it.

I'm surprised he's not pushing the four humours theory of disease.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan

Jeff wrote:
Mike wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Mike wrote:
Jeff wrote:
JOHN wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_aga..._vaccines.html


Dear All


Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to
sign:-

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor
develop long term chronic illness as a result.

Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness,
either. However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that
is available.

Jeff

The petition is to reject a proposal by a certain member of British
parliament to FORCE vaccinations in the UK. A quote:

"A Labour MP has recently suggested forcing all children to be
vaccinated otherwise they cannot attend school and parents should
not receive child benefits."

I was not talking about the petition or the law. Rather, I was
talking about the life-saving value of vaccines.


Some vaccines are not life-saving. Chickenpox, for example.

Chicken pox killed something like 30 to 50 people a year before the
vaccine.

Jeff

Another poster says it was 1200 in 6 or 7 years after the vaccine.
Something is wrong here. Source please.

"Jeff" wrote in message
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The author clearly shows no evidence of understanding science, medicine or
infectious disease.
http://whale.to/m/putz.html

In message GB32k.19028$b_.3716@trnddc02, Mike wrote:

Another poster says it was 1200 in 6 or 7 years after the vaccine.
Something is wrong here. Source please.

CDC Wonder cause of death database, causes B01 and B01, by year:

1979 249
1980 259
1981 258
1982 229
1983 218
1984 206
1985 215
1986 181
1987 207
1988 207
1989 202
1990 234
1991 186
1992 202
1993 200
1994 217
1995 221
1996 185
1997 210
1998 189
1999 200
2000 175
2001 149
2002 162
2003 173
2004 170
2005 175

--
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
+-------- D. C. Sessions ---------+

"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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The author clearly shows no evidence of understanding science, medicine
or infectious disease.
http://whale.to/m/putz.html
You need to update that to 2007 AND 2008.