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Greegor wrote:
But shouldn't people looking for the kids
know that they ran away from FOSTER CARE
and not their parents?

That knowledge is available officially to all with the need to
know...CPS, police, youth shelters, and upon finding a youth, hospitals
and clinics.

What does the public need to know for?

Certainly such details would be at least as
helpful as many other details broadcast far
and wide.

No, it's not important to the public to know from whom or what the
child ran. Only to know that the child is among the missing. If they
are seen or located and the one finding them calls the police, the
police will know or be easily able to find out, once the child is ID'd
as the listed child, who to call.

Police departments are required to keep lists of the missing if
reported, and CPS reports missing children to the police by statute.

What's your IQ, greegor, 40? Do you belong to ASNEM (American Society
of Nimwit Enemies of Mentality), or MENSA spelled backwards?

Kane

Are you saying that the posters about missing kids
leave out a lot of information that people don't
need to know?

Greegor wrote:
Are you saying that the posters about missing kids
leave out a lot of information that people don't
need to know?

Aren't you tired of asking stupid off topic questions?

Of course they don't. Look at your statement. If they don't need to
know it they don't need to know it so why clutter up the posters with
it, and possibly embarrass or even endanger the kid?

I would presume as a runaway they have more than enough to stress them
without referrences to their past showing up on telephone poles and the
Web.

What could significantly or even miminaly increase their chances of
being found by posting that they ran from foster care?

Hence, no need to know the details.

Did you think you made yet another discovery of the malfeasance of CPS?


You forget. I'm against their posting .. and saying the children ran
from foster care. It's an intrusion on privacy. And teens especially
need respect for that.

So, what do you think should be on the posters, greegor, and for what
reason related to the safety of the child and their recovery?

Take all the space you wish. 0:-

Kane

Why should agencies cherry pick the facts of
where and why kids ran away?

Or to keep the 19,000 lost in foster care from
being on the lists of missing kids?

Of course the bad PR for CPS and Foster systems
would not be motivating your opinion, therefore
you are not intellectually prostitute.

Greegor wrote:
Why should agencies cherry pick the facts of
where and why kids ran away?

Privacy for the children.

Or to keep the 19,000 lost in foster care from
being on the lists of missing kids?

I have no idea. Why do you think?

Of course the bad PR for CPS and Foster systems
would not be motivating your opinion, therefore
you are not intellectually prostitute.

No, it's not motivating my opinion at all. I'm concerned, as I said,
about the privacy of the child. I've seen some very bad slips made in
this area.

And I did not suggest, by the way, keeping them off lists of missing
children. Only their status as foster children.

You folks will stoop how low to make your bogus sick arguments?

R R R R R RR ...

Kane

You mean you aren't all about self promotion and
PR for the agencies?

What do you think Bobb?

Do you think there's not a PR side to this?

Any other thoughts on the missing 19,000 kids?
Is there any way to determine how many
are NOT placed on the public missing person lists?

What good does the privacy for the child do when they
are never found?

It must be difficult for the child to discover that their
strawberry mole was publicized in an affort to
identify and return them. Wouldn't most
identifying marks be somewhat embarassing?
Yet those are reported.

What IS the recovery rate on most runaways?

How does that compare to runaways from foster care?

Greegor wrote:
You mean you aren't all about self promotion and
PR for the agencies?

What would be the point of promoting myself? Or the agencies?

Other than having worked with abused and neglected children for some
years and seeing firsthand what the long term and short term outcomes
were for those children, and knowing that CPS in fact is the only
agency with the authority to act on their behalf?

What do you think Bobb?

bobb? Think? R R R R RR R R R R R R R R RRRRR

Do you think there's not a PR side to this?

What would the goal of the PR?

If I "promote" CPS it's only for the reasons I point out above.

YOU and bobber going to protect children, are yah?

Any other thoughts on the missing 19,000 kids?
Is there any way to determine how many
are NOT placed on the public missing person lists?

Is there any way to count what can't be seen? Why speculate with
insinuation?

What are YOU trying to promote? Who are YOU running a PR scam for?

What good does the privacy for the child do when they
are never found?

Protect their privacy. Why do they need to be found to have a right to
privacy?

They know were they are and can read, most of them. It's a game kids
play all the time, google themselves, and their FRIENDS, to see what
deep dark secrets some up.

It must be difficult for the child to discover that their
strawberry mole was publicized in an affort to
identify and return them.

No, that usually won't bother them.

Wouldn't most
identifying marks be somewhat embarassing?

Yours might be. Most of us don't have any embarassing "marks."

Yet those are reported.

Yep. Being a foster child is not something that is branded as a mark on
a child's forhead. What possible use would that information be to
identifying the child? If you know his or her name and discription, and
what his or her favorite hangouts are, and favorite activities, you've
got about all you need.

So tell us, greegor, in what way would it help to find a child by
knowing they were a foster child?

Those who CAN use such information, get it privately. Police, and other
human service organizations, who are themselves bound by
confidentiality restraints.

What IS the recovery rate on most runaways?

Have no idea. Tell us.

How does that compare to runaways from foster care?

Who knows. Tell us.

Or are you insinuating something? If so tell us what it might be, and
stop behaving like an 11 year old girl with her whispering friends.

You are a fool with access to media. One day they will be recognized as
one of the most dangerous of people. But for now, all we have to
protect ourselves from you is: R R R R R RR R R R R R

Kane

I looked at some missing kid listings and one thing always listed is
where
they are missing FROM.

Wouldn't it be important when looking for a missing kid to look for
them
both where they are FROM immediately,
along with where they are FROM before
they were put in Foster Incarceration?

Kane, Are you concious of the EVASIVE
""answers"" that you give to questions?

I was just curious to know whether you
think that your voluminous defenestration actually qualifies as
answering the question in YOUR mind,
or if you realize how often you provide
non-answers?

"Greegor" wrote in message
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Kane, Are you concious of the EVASIVE
""answers"" that you give to questions?

Examples, please.

Greegor wrote:
I looked at some missing kid listings and one thing always listed is
where
they are missing FROM.

Hmmm..interesting. Point me to the lists you are looking at. I'm
curious and may follow up by contacting those maintaining the lists.
Their thinking would be more valid even than my speculations.

Wouldn't it be important when looking for a missing kid to look for
them
both where they are FROM immediately,
along with where they are FROM before
they were put in Foster Incarceration?

Well, it is to law enforcement, but they are given that information. It
isn't of much importance to the public because they are NOT looking for
these children by searching. They are expected to respond if they
happen to see them anywhere. Vicinity isn't of much use in those public
appeals. Kids travel.

Or do you think folks from all over the country, when they read a
posted missing kid list will set out to visit the "locales" if they
were listed, just to see if they can find the kid?

It would get kind of crowded in those locales, eh?

Kane, Are you concious of the EVASIVE
""answers"" that you give to questions?

No. Because I don't. I try to answer thoroughly.

I think what you are suffering from is wanting to have YOUR answer
validated, and of course, my being honest, and fact compelled, cannot
do that. Since most often you are either lying, or so ****ing ignorant
and stuck in your little fantasy world it would be a crime to say you
were right.

I was just curious to know whether you
think that your voluminous defenestration

I threw someone out the window? I threw A LOT of someone's out the
window?

actually qualifies as
answering the question in YOUR mind,
or if you realize how often you provide
non-answers?

**** now, greegor. I would be gigantically evasive if when you asked a
question I threw someone out the window. R R R R R R ...

Actually greegor, what I provide are truths and facts, which of course
often not only do NOT give you the answer YOU are trying for, but
delighting me endlessly, frustrates and annoys you as well.

For liars the truth is like severe odontalgia.

R R R R R ....

greegor, I was getting bored. You have enlivened my evening
wonderfully. Much thanks.

Kane