If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html
gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
On 9/26/10 7:38 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. Wrong. Gut flora is not responsible for the immune system. The bone marrow is. There are a lot of immune cells around the gut because there is so much bacteria in your gut. The consequences of not using antibiotics can be long-term, like death, a limb amputated or hearing loss. It is never a good idea to take antibiotics if they are not needed, like taking antibiotics for a cold. As with anything you do, you have to weigh both the pro and cons of taking antibiotics. Jeff |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 7:38 AM, john wrote: http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. Wrong. Gut flora is not responsible for the immune system. The bone marrow is. There are a lot of immune cells around the gut because there is so much bacteria in your gut. The consequences of not using antibiotics can be long-term, like death, a limb amputated or hearing loss. It is never a good idea to take antibiotics if they are not needed, like taking antibiotics for a cold. As with anything you do, you have to weigh both the pro and cons of taking antibiotics. Jeff Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
On 9/26/10 6:38 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 7:38 AM, john wrote: http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. Wrong. Gut flora is not responsible for the immune system. The bone marrow is. There are a lot of immune cells around the gut because there is so much bacteria in your gut. The consequences of not using antibiotics can be long-term, like death, a limb amputated or hearing loss. It is never a good idea to take antibiotics if they are not needed, like taking antibiotics for a cold. As with anything you do, you have to weigh both the pro and cons of taking antibiotics. Jeff Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. You don't know what you're talking about at all. Alternative medicine is conjecture-based medicine (con-med) by definition. There is no evidence for it. Jeff |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
"carole" wrote in
d.com: Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Present _valid_ evidence for your claim. PubMed article ID will do nicely. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. Then how come you still have a recurring case of fungus infection? Having it to recur simply means you haven't gotten rid of the fungus. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. "Alternative medicine", as is well known, cannot prove its claims. If you care to show me otherwise, please present _valid_ evidence. Testimonials/personal anecdotes are not valid evidence. -- The trouble with the World is that the stupid are so confident while the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 6:38 PM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 7:38 AM, john wrote: http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. Wrong. Gut flora is not responsible for the immune system. The bone marrow is. There are a lot of immune cells around the gut because there is so much bacteria in your gut. The consequences of not using antibiotics can be long-term, like death, a limb amputated or hearing loss. It is never a good idea to take antibiotics if they are not needed, like taking antibiotics for a cold. As with anything you do, you have to weigh both the pro and cons of taking antibiotics. Jeff Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. You don't know what you're talking about at all. Alternative medicine is conjecture-based medicine (con-med) by definition. There is no evidence for it. Wrong again dr not doc. Once we get real medicine, the importance of nutritional cures will be acknowledged. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
"Bob Officer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 08:38:23 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, "carole" wrote: "dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 7:38 AM, john wrote: http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. Wrong. Gut flora is not responsible for the immune system. The bone marrow is. There are a lot of immune cells around the gut because there is so much bacteria in your gut. The consequences of not using antibiotics can be long-term, like death, a limb amputated or hearing loss. It is never a good idea to take antibiotics if they are not needed, like taking antibiotics for a cold. As with anything you do, you have to weigh both the pro and cons of taking antibiotics. Jeff Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. Which is about as dumb as you can get. In my short absence, I am glad you've been busy, as Mr Samuel Langhorne Clemens aptly said, "...Removing all doubt." I thought it had been unusually pleasant around here. Why don't you take a longer break next time. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 6:38 PM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/26/10 7:38 AM, john wrote: http://whale.to/a/gut_flora_h.html gut flora is responsible for 70% of your immune system.....when you take antibiotics you napalm the whole of your body, the consequences of which can be long term. Wrong. Gut flora is not responsible for the immune system. The bone marrow is. There are a lot of immune cells around the gut because there is so much bacteria in your gut. The consequences of not using antibiotics can be long-term, like death, a limb amputated or hearing loss. It is never a good idea to take antibiotics if they are not needed, like taking antibiotics for a cold. As with anything you do, you have to weigh both the pro and cons of taking antibiotics. Jeff Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. You don't know what you're talking about at all. Alternative medicine is conjecture-based medicine (con-med) by definition. There is no evidence for it. Wrong again dr not doc. Once we get real medicine, the importance of nutritional cures will be acknowledged. The importance of nutritional cures has already been acknowledged. For real vitamin deficiencies, protein deficiencies, etc., a proper diet reverses those deficiencies. However, for treating other diseases, nutritional cures don't work. If they do work, show us the science. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. Jeff |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
dr_jeff wrote in
: Don't forget to back your claims with science. Science and scientific evidence is to carole a bit like sunlight is to a vampire - and no, I don't believe in vampires either. ;-) She tends to avoid it at all costs. I've been trying to get valid evidence out of her for ages, and all she does is link to worthless kook sites. -- The trouble with the World is that the stupid are so confident while the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Gut flora
"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. You don't know what you're talking about at all. Alternative medicine is conjecture-based medicine (con-med) by definition. There is no evidence for it. Wrong again dr not doc. Once we get real medicine, the importance of nutritional cures will be acknowledged. The importance of nutritional cures has already been acknowledged. For real vitamin deficiencies, protein deficiencies, etc., a proper diet reverses those deficiencies. However, for treating other diseases, nutritional cures don't work. If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|