A Masculist Utopia

In this to-good-to-be-true society:

1. Boy children are treated equal to or better than girl children

AND

2. Girl children are treated equal to or worse than boy children


With as much research I've done, no such place exists on earth and
never did even in the olden days.

In article ,
(Fair For All) wrote:

In this to-good-to-be-true society:

1. Boy children are treated equal to or better than girl children

AND

2. Girl children are treated equal to or worse than boy children


Why on earth would a society that treats one gender better than the
other be "too good to be true"?

meh
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

dragonlady wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Fair For All) wrote:

In this to-good-to-be-true society:

1. Boy children are treated equal to or better than girl children

AND

2. Girl children are treated equal to or worse than boy children


Why on earth would a society that treats one gender better than the
other be "too good to be true"?

So far, the society of humans does and always has in all parts of the
world:

1. Treated girl children better than boy children

AND

2. Treated boy children worse than girl children

Making things equal (treating both boys are girls equally) or perhaps
even reversing the treatment (treating boys above girls) would sure
make things much more interesting for fairness-loving,
affirmative-action-loving, warm-hearted souls like me.

"Fair For All" wrote in message
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dragonlady wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Fair For All) wrote:

In this to-good-to-be-true society:

1. Boy children are treated equal to or better than girl children

AND

2. Girl children are treated equal to or worse than boy children


Why on earth would a society that treats one gender better than the
other be "too good to be true"?

So far, the society of humans does and always has in all parts of the
world:

1. Treated girl children better than boy children

AND

2. Treated boy children worse than girl children

Making things equal (treating both boys are girls equally) or perhaps
even reversing the treatment (treating boys above girls) would sure
make things much more interesting for fairness-loving,
affirmative-action-loving, warm-hearted souls like me.

The goal should certainly involve loving, caring, wonderful treatment for
all. Why would fixing one injustice (assuming there is one) by creating
another be a good thing?

"Stephanie Stowe" wrote in message
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"Fair For All" wrote in message
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dragonlady wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Fair For All) wrote:

In this to-good-to-be-true society:

1. Boy children are treated equal to or better than girl children

AND

2. Girl children are treated equal to or worse than boy children


Why on earth would a society that treats one gender better than the
other be "too good to be true"?

So far, the society of humans does and always has in all parts of the
world:

1. Treated girl children better than boy children

AND

2. Treated boy children worse than girl children

Making things equal (treating both boys are girls equally) or perhaps
even reversing the treatment (treating boys above girls) would sure
make things much more interesting for fairness-loving,
affirmative-action-loving, warm-hearted souls like me.

The goal should certainly involve loving, caring, wonderful treatment for
all. Why would fixing one injustice (assuming there is one) by creating
another be a good thing?


Stephanie, you're wasting your energy and your fingers -- Fair For All is a
renowned troll.


--
Byron "Barn" Canfield
-----------------------------
"Politics is a strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles."
-- Ambrose Bierce

"Stephanie Stowe" wrote in message ...

The goal should certainly involve loving, caring, wonderful treatment for
all.

Yup. I totally agree.

Why would fixing one injustice (assuming there is one) by creating
another be a good thing?

The same reason ethnics minorities in USA are favored by
affirmative-action laws. Historically they were oppressed.
Affirmative-action does the job of paying minorities back for their
historical disadvantages.

On 14 Apr 2004 15:26:41 -0700, (Fair For All)
wrote:

The same reason ethnics minorities in USA are favored by
affirmative-action laws. Historically they were oppressed.
Affirmative-action does the job of paying minorities back for their
historical disadvantages.

And historically, it's not men who have been oppressed, but
women, thus your solution simply tries to go back to the way
it *used to be* and is not fair at all.


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

toto wrote in message . ..

And historically, it's not men who have been oppressed, but
women, thus your solution simply tries to go back to the way
it *used to be* and is not fair at all.

Very true. However, this only applies to adults. As adults, women were
oppressed more than men.

Children, on the other hand, are totally different story. As kids,
girls were and still are treated unfairly better than boys.

toto wrote in message . ..

And historically, it's not men who have been oppressed, but
women, thus your solution simply tries to go back to the way
it *used to be* and is not fair at all.

And historically [and currently], it's not girls who have been - and
still are - oppressed, but boys, thus my solution simply tries to go
the opposite extreme of the way it *used to be [and still is]* and is
entirely fair.

On 14 Apr 2004 18:25:15 -0700, (Fair For All)
wrote:

toto wrote in message . ..

And historically, it's not men who have been oppressed, but
women, thus your solution simply tries to go back to the way
it *used to be* and is not fair at all.

Very true. However, this only applies to adults. As adults, women were
oppressed more than men.

Children, on the other hand, are totally different story. As kids,
girls were and still are treated unfairly better than boys.

Wrong.

Girl children were oppressed too. First of all, historically girl
children were often married off to men much older than they were
and expected to be *obedient* to their wills. Secondly, girl
children were taught to be passive rather than active and any
girl who stepped out of line was punished by ostracism and/or
other methods. It wasn't *ladylike* to want to explore the world
or to have a career or to not want to have children at all. Sorry,
but your ideas are all wet.

And girls are *not* treated better than boys today either, though
girls are allowed more privileges than they were in the past.
Boys in this culture are still very much favored and forgiven for
a lot of behavior because *boys will be boys.* Whereas, the
same behavior in girls is unacceptable.


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits